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« Reply #100 on: October 16, 2013, 04:14:35 PM »

 

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20131016/NEWS01/131016012/Beth-Holloway-Never-give-up-hope-

Beth Holloway: 'Never give up hope'
Oct. 16, 2013 1:46 PM

Even when Beth Holloway realized her daughter Natalee was dead, she didn't give up hope.

Beth's search for answers about Natalee's disappearance during a school trip to Aruba in 2005 captivated the world. This afternoon, Beth spoke about that journey and her new mission at Gingerbread House's yearly fundraising luncheon.

"There are phases of hope that are there for all of us to seize," Holloway said.

Her first phase of hope lasted four days, until she realized that Natalee never returned to her hotel the night before the school group's departure from Aruba.

While praying beside a deserted road on the island, Beth Holloway understood that her daughter "was with God."

At that moment, she said, she entered the second phase of hope. She was determined to find out exactly what happened to Natalee and seek justice.

Beth Holloway got answers when suspect Joran van der Sloot said during an undercover video that he had a friend drop Natalee Holloway in the ocean after she had a seizure. She believes her daughter suffered an overdose from a date-rape drug.
 
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« Reply #101 on: October 16, 2013, 04:34:31 PM »

http://www.katc.com/news/beth-holloway-to-speak-at-hearts-of-hope-benefit/

Beth Holloway to speak at Hearts of Hope benefit
Posted: Oct 11, 2013 10:47 AM
Updated: Oct 11, 2013 10:47 AM

Beth Holloway, known for her heroic efforts to find her missing daughter, Natalee, in Aruba in 2005, will be speaking at East Bayou Baptist Church at 6 p.m. on Oct. 17.

Holloway's public struggle to search and cope with her daughter's abduction during her high school graduation trip has touched many hearts. Since the tragic event, she has delivered an uplifting message of hope, faith, and personal safety to young adults and people of all ages all across the U.S.

Tickets are $25 and can be purchased at http://theheartsofhope.org/bethholloway . Seating is limited.

For more information, call 337-269-1557.
 

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« Reply #102 on: October 16, 2013, 05:07:14 PM »

http://www.katc.com/news/beth-holloway-to-speak-at-hearts-of-hope-benefit/

Beth Holloway to speak at Hearts of Hope benefit
Posted: Oct 11, 2013 10:47 AM
Updated: Oct 11, 2013 10:47 AM

Beth Holloway, known for her heroic efforts to find her missing daughter, Natalee, in Aruba in 2005, will be speaking at East Bayou Baptist Church at 6 p.m. on Oct. 17.

Holloway's public struggle to search and cope with her daughter's abduction during her high school graduation trip has touched many hearts. Since the tragic event, she has delivered an uplifting message of hope, faith, and personal safety to young adults and people of all ages all across the U.S.

Tickets are $25 and can be purchased at http://theheartsofhope.org/bethholloway . Seating is limited.

For more information, call 337-269-1557.
 



Red posted on the SM front page as well!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/10/16/dont-miss-natalee-holloways-mom-october-17-2013-at-600-pm-at-east-bayou-in-lafayette-louisiana-for-an-evening-with-beth-holloway/
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« Reply #103 on: October 16, 2013, 10:38:12 PM »

http://www.katc.com/news/beth-holloway-to-speak-at-hearts-of-hope-benefit/

Beth Holloway to speak at Hearts of Hope benefit
Posted: Oct 11, 2013 10:47 AM
Updated: Oct 11, 2013 10:47 AM

Beth Holloway, known for her heroic efforts to find her missing daughter, Natalee, in Aruba in 2005, will be speaking at East Bayou Baptist Church at 6 p.m. on Oct. 17.

Holloway's public struggle to search and cope with her daughter's abduction during her high school graduation trip has touched many hearts. Since the tragic event, she has delivered an uplifting message of hope, faith, and personal safety to young adults and people of all ages all across the U.S.

Tickets are $25 and can be purchased at http://theheartsofhope.org/bethholloway . Seating is limited.

For more information, call 337-269-1557.
 



Red posted on the SM front page as well!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/10/16/dont-miss-natalee-holloways-mom-october-17-2013-at-600-pm-at-east-bayou-in-lafayette-louisiana-for-an-evening-with-beth-holloway/

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #104 on: October 17, 2013, 12:10:42 PM »

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5601/TV-Radio/article/detail/3528644/2013/10/17/Holloway-verdachte-vluchtte-na-misser-politie.dhtml

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" Holloway suspect fled after police miss '
 17-10-13 - 10:48 source : Novum ; NBC

By a blunder of the Aruban police could a man who may had with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway , flights to South America . This reports the TV program Focal Reporter in broadcasting Thursday.

It's about a man who tried another American tourist , Tracey Allan , on an Aruban beach to drag to his car . During the week before the disappearance of Natalee The man who was wearing only a long shirt , minutes trying to pull it and threatened to beat her when she resisted . A stone against her head This is clear from the story that Allan then did a show at the American NBC .

The young woman was convinced he was going to rape her, but she managed to escape . Tracy was in the same hotel where Holloway was staying at the time and the attack happened nine days before her disappearance on the same beach that Joran van der Sloot said in one of his statements . The Dutchman claimed Holloway as having left . Sleeping

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Allan did immediately return after the attack . They announced in the NBC show that its declaration and tips never been treated seriously. Only a few months after the disappearance of Holloway was asked to work on a composite sketch .

Tonight in the program it becomes clear that this man is arrested by police in Aruba after Allan identified him , months after the attack in 2005 . "A few weeks later called me an Aruban police that they had him arrested , but he was set free again and that he had fled to Colombia ," says Allan .

The Public Prosecution on Aruba confirmed the story . The man was initially arrested for an invalid permit . He was not recognized by the Aruban authorities . Peter Blanken , prosecutor in Aruba, let the program know yet the possibility of an international arrest warrant to want to see .

police File
The program was able to explain to the police file by hand and plunged further into the matter . Worked crime journalist Wim van de Pol and journalist Vincent Verweij join the program . The latter had stated that the media hype surrounding Van der Sloot sight of the true events of the fateful night has veiled . The police investigation was therefore not performed properly.
 
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« Reply #105 on: October 17, 2013, 03:02:14 PM »

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5601/TV-Radio/article/detail/3528644/2013/10/17/Holloway-verdachte-vluchtte-na-misser-politie.dhtml

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" Holloway suspect fled after police miss '
 17-10-13 - 10:48 source : Novum ; NBC

By a blunder of the Aruban police could a man who may had with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway , flights to South America . This reports the TV program Focal Reporter in broadcasting Thursday.

It's about a man who tried another American tourist , Tracey Allan , on an Aruban beach to drag to his car . During the week before the disappearance of Natalee The man who was wearing only a long shirt , minutes trying to pull it and threatened to beat her when she resisted . A stone against her head This is clear from the story that Allan then did a show at the American NBC .

The young woman was convinced he was going to rape her, but she managed to escape . Tracy was in the same hotel where Holloway was staying at the time and the attack happened nine days before her disappearance on the same beach that Joran van der Sloot said in one of his statements . The Dutchman claimed Holloway as having left . Sleeping

declaration
Allan did immediately return after the attack . They announced in the NBC show that its declaration and tips never been treated seriously. Only a few months after the disappearance of Holloway was asked to work on a composite sketch .

Tonight in the program it becomes clear that this man is arrested by police in Aruba after Allan identified him , months after the attack in 2005 . "A few weeks later called me an Aruban police that they had him arrested , but he was set free again and that he had fled to Colombia ," says Allan .

The Public Prosecution on Aruba confirmed the story . The man was initially arrested for an invalid permit . He was not recognized by the Aruban authorities . Peter Blanken , prosecutor in Aruba, let the program know yet the possibility of an international arrest warrant to want to see .

police File
The program was able to explain to the police file by hand and plunged further into the matter . Worked crime journalist Wim van de Pol and journalist Vincent Verweij join the program . The latter had stated that the media hype surrounding Van der Sloot sight of the true events of the fateful night has veiled . The police investigation was therefore not performed properly.
 



I was afraid this was the program trying to show that poor Joran was the victim of media hype.

I have no doubts that the Aruban LE let the Colombian/Aruban attacker of Tracy Allen off the hook.

That matter does not explain Joran's behavior or actions.

I wonder what EuroRobert thought of the program.
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« Reply #106 on: October 17, 2013, 04:41:42 PM »

At the link, Video and the 14-page "Police files used in the review of the Natalee Holloway case. Statements by Karen and Freddy (friends of Joran) and intercepted chat conversations. In Dutch"

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http://www.crimesite.nl/nieuws/criminelen/27302-joran-filmde-sexfeest-in-hotel

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Joran sexfeest filmed in hotel News - People
Published Thursday, October 17, 2013 15:47

The main suspects in the Natalee Holloway case , Joran van der Sloot and Deepak Kalpoe , some months before her disappearance participated in a sex fest with tourists in a hotel . In addition, Van der Sloot was filming an underage girl. The issue is addressed in tonight 's Focal - KRO Reporter and in the book 'Dossier Holloway ' that appears next week .

The investigation also found chat messages showing that Joran van der Sloot and Satish Kalpoe re photo and film wanted to make a woman . Few weeks after

Mill Hotel
Joran hired along with a group of friends during the Easter holidays of 2005 for three days a room at the Mill Hotel in Aruba. At one point there were two American tourists were and a Colombian girl brought to the room , with whom contact was made in Carlos' n Charlies , the nightclub where Natalee Holloway was on the night of her disappearance .

Freddy , a friend of Joran was present and stated to the police : " It was on a Saturday that Joran , Deepak and I went to The Mill Hotel along with three girls I have sex with an American girl sitting Deepak went into the bathroom . . went AMERICAN sex with a girl on the balcony . with the Colombian girl. Joran Joran told me later that the girl had sucked him. " on the balcony

Another witness says: " Joran had said that when he was in me this year " The Mili Hotel " was staying , he had filmed when the girl under the influence of alcoholic beverages wrong a fourteen year old girl in the hotel room . "

chats
Research by the Dutch Forensic Institute at the computer Joran van der Sloot , has proved again that he was planning to make a sex act . Filming a few weeks later Satish Kalpoe asks Joran van der Sloot that he is going to do that day. Joran : " A little f*cken with my chick on the beach ." Satish : " This time we're filming it ."
 
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« Reply #107 on: October 17, 2013, 04:42:43 PM »

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I wonder what EuroRobert thought of the program.

Well now... That is a good question!

There were some new 'facts' - at least for me. But it wasn't earth shaking in my opinion.
But I made some notes. So you can judge for yourselves.


The program was divided into three sections or 'scenarios'.

Scenario 1 - The Pimps

Three fishermen say that it is impossible that Joran and Natalee were at the beach at the time Joran said they were there. The would have been seen by the fishermen.
Another witness says he saw the Kalpoe car at 2.30hrs somewhere else on the island.
Possibly Joran and others took Natalee to Jorans house to have sex. That was their habbit or even ‘modus operandi’ (possibly they sometimes even drugged girls). In march earlier that year for instance they rented a hotelroom in ‘The Mill’ to have sex with two American and one Colombian girl. A girl named Karen says that they took pictures of those gatherings and videos.
At least one chat conversation on Jorans computer between Joran and one of the Kalpoes confirmes that. But those videos and images were not found in the police investigation. Possibly they were erased. Police and FBI thought that videos of those sex events were possibly sold to a man named Paul B. aka the Mister Pink of Pink Productions. He had relations with the people behind the website Reality Kings. It was this website of which Joran downloaded two porn movies at the night of the disappearance of Natalee.

Scenario 2 - DJ Diablo

DJ Diablo (Steve ?) had a party boat ‘The Tattoo’. He told Natalee was dropped of at a hotel lobby but survailance camera videos showed he lied about that. He says later that night he was at his boat. Did he help Joran dump Natalee’s body in the ocean. He had told more lies about where he was and what he did. He had told he was in another bar and didn’t know if he had been in the Carlos and Charlies but it was proven he was there that evening.

Scenario 3 - The rapist

Tracey Allen from Denver Colorado had been attacked nine days before Natalee disappeared. That had happened at the Fisherman’s Huts. It looked like that guy had been waiting for a woman to be there at her own. It looked like a modus operandi. He had been waiting there for some time. For about four minutes the halfly undressed guy tried to pull Tracey in his car. But she screamed and fought back.
Later she could identify the guy with the help of the FBI and was 100 % sure that was the guy. The guy had been arrested and put in jail on Aruba but for some unclear reason was let go whereafter he fled, probably to Colombia or Venezuela.

The general conclusion or perspective of the program was that the police investigations were done very bad. For instance the fact that the door of Natalees hotel room was opened three times with Natalee’s key card was not thouroughly investigated. But this was crucial information. Was it Natalee herself who had regained her consiounce and come back from the beach, was or were it the people who left Natalee on the beach or somewhere else of even killed her? Or did Natalee’s roommates had legitametely - or not - used her card. Natalee’s roommates were not asked if they had Natalee’s key card.
Another thing that was a total fail was that survaillance camera’s on the island were only investigated three weeks after the disappearence of Natalee. But most video recordings were standardly erased after two weeks. So it couldn’t been seen where the car of the Kalpoes had driven and so on.

The reporters have written a book on their findings as well.

It's 22.45 in the evening here. But daytime for you so: have a good day!

Goodbye!!!

 
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« Reply #108 on: October 17, 2013, 05:56:40 PM »

Bailey Ann, Alyse and Loco Stef?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=663.0

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« Reply #109 on: October 17, 2013, 06:19:07 PM »

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/boulevard/entertainment/brandpunt-onthult-nieuwe-details-holloway

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2 hour 2 minutes ago
Focal reveals new details Holloway

Focal Reporter Thursday has a broadcast dedicated to the police investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway . The program says that everyone assumes that Joran van der Sloot is responsible for her disappearance , but that , according Focal well be different. Again

The team of the police file Focal has been owned and there they find important ' answers ' . Peter R. de Vries , who has also worked on the study , intensive told earlier in the evening on RTL Boulevard that it is an interesting broadcast. Yet he does not believe at all in the findings of the journalists . "They say there's a 40 percent chance exists that Joran did not do it , but for me it is clear that he has done it ," said the well-known crime reporter.
 
" They do have the finger on some sore spots in the police report . They come with three scenarios where it is never good uitgerechercheerd by the police ," De Vries . Peter R. says he only parts of the police report has been facing . " We have our own research and many sources and individual voice . " De Vries encourages people to do to view the broadcast. " It is an interesting documentary that everyone should go see and be the judge . "
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« Reply #110 on: October 17, 2013, 07:16:53 PM »

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I wonder what EuroRobert thought of the program.

Well now... That is a good question!

There were some new 'facts' - at least for me. But it wasn't earth shaking in my opinion.
But I made some notes. So you can judge for yourselves.


The program was divided into three sections or 'scenarios'.

Scenario 1 - The Pimps

Three fishermen say that it is impossible that Joran and Natalee were at the beach at the time Joran said they were there. The would have been seen by the fishermen.
Another witness says he saw the Kalpoe car at 2.30hrs somewhere else on the island.
Possibly Joran and others took Natalee to Jorans house to have sex. That was their habbit or even ‘modus operandi’ (possibly they sometimes even drugged girls). In march earlier that year for instance they rented a hotelroom in ‘The Mill’ to have sex with two American and one Colombian girl. A girl named Karen says that they took pictures of those gatherings and videos.
At least one chat conversation on Jorans computer between Joran and one of the Kalpoes confirmes that. But those videos and images were not found in the police investigation. Possibly they were erased. Police and FBI thought that videos of those sex events were possibly sold to a man named Paul B. aka the Mister Pink of Pink Productions. He had relations with the people behind the website Reality Kings. It was this website of which Joran downloaded two porn movies at the night of the disappearance of Natalee.

Scenario 2 - DJ Diablo

DJ Diablo (Steve ?) had a party boat ‘The Tattoo’. He told Natalee was dropped of at a hotel lobby but survailance camera videos showed he lied about that. He says later that night he was at his boat. Did he help Joran dump Natalee’s body in the ocean. He had told more lies about where he was and what he did. He had told he was in another bar and didn’t know if he had been in the Carlos and Charlies but it was proven he was there that evening.

Scenario 3 - The rapist

Tracey Allen from Denver Colorado had been attacked nine days before Natalee disappeared. That had happened at the Fisherman’s Huts. It looked like that guy had been waiting for a woman to be there at her own. It looked like a modus operandi. He had been waiting there for some time. For about four minutes the halfly undressed guy tried to pull Tracey in his car. But she screamed and fought back.
Later she could identify the guy with the help of the FBI and was 100 % sure that was the guy. The guy had been arrested and put in jail on Aruba but for some unclear reason was let go whereafter he fled, probably to Colombia or Venezuela.

The general conclusion or perspective of the program was that the police investigations were done very bad. For instance the fact that the door of Natalees hotel room was opened three times with Natalee’s key card was not thouroughly investigated. But this was crucial information. Was it Natalee herself who had regained her consiounce and come back from the beach, was or were it the people who left Natalee on the beach or somewhere else of even killed her? Or did Natalee’s roommates had legitametely - or not - used her card. Natalee’s roommates were not asked if they had Natalee’s key card.
Another thing that was a total fail was that survaillance camera’s on the island were only investigated three weeks after the disappearence of Natalee. But most video recordings were standardly erased after two weeks. So it couldn’t been seen where the car of the Kalpoes had driven and so on.

The reporters have written a book on their findings as well.

It's 22.45 in the evening here. But daytime for you so: have a good day!

Goodbye!!!

 

Thanks EuroRobert!

Nothing new.  The keycard printout was obtained and verified by the family and all entries were accounted for by Natalee's roommates.
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« Reply #111 on: October 17, 2013, 07:19:21 PM »

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Yes...and I think that film was the one Freddie and Kalpoes ended up returning to jail..."briefly".
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« Reply #112 on: October 19, 2013, 11:18:50 AM »

Joran made movies of minors for sex party store
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"A little fu**en with my chick. This time we're filming the '
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TELEVISION In March 2005, two months before Natalee Holloway disappearance, Joran van der Sloot hired with 5 friends a hotel room. They wanted girls decorate when going out and thus to increase them to have sex with them. The boys succeeded in there and Joran acts with a 14-year-old girl on movie set.
Police File
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This information came forward yesterday during the broadcast of the program 's Focal-KRO Reporter . The authors were able to obtain the police file by hand and it is also Joran behavior scrutinized in time for the disappearance of Natalee.

Three girls
He and Deepak Kalpoe, two main suspects in the Natalee Holloway case, had in March, along with other friends, attended a sex party with tourists in the Mill hotel in Aruba. They took two American girls and a Colombian girl to the room, with whom contact was made in Carlos' n Charlies, the nightclub where Natalee Holloway was on the night of her disappearance.

"It was on a Saturday that Joran, Deepak and I went to The Mill Hotel along with three girls. I have an American girl sitting sex. Deepak went into the bathroom with the Colombian girl. Joran went with an American girl sex on the balcony. Joran told me later that the girl had sucked him, "on the balcony as friend Freddy then stated to the police.

Recordings
A girl named Karen, who also sex, in their own words involuntarily, had with the then 17-year-old Van der Sloot is also questioned by the police. She said among other things that the Dutchman told her that he had made at the sex party. Recordings

"Joran had told me that when he was staying at the Mill Hotel, he had filmed the girl under the influence of alcohol. A fourteen year old girl in hotel room It was recorded on a videotape. "

Files Chat
Also, the chat sessions between Van der Sloot and Satish Kalpoe discussed in the file. In one of the conversations Kalpoe Joran asks what he's going to do that day. Joran: "A little fu**en with my chick on the beach." Satish: "This time we're filming it.

A cold case team investigating the state of affairs, drew the following conclusion: "The chats seized, found on the computer of Joran van der Sloot, but actually know a few topics: fu**en or f***, alcohol, and chicks renting hotel rooms, apparently for there to have sex with girls and photographing or filming them. "

Suspect fled
During the broadcast also showed that by a blunder of the Aruban police a man, who may have something to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, could flee to South America.


http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5601/TV-Radio/article/detail/3529309/2013/10/18/Joran-maakte-filmpjes-van-minderjarigen-op-seksfeest.dhtml
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« Reply #113 on: October 19, 2013, 01:09:51 PM »

I think I edited all the "f" words...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_kQrllIyk

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Published on Oct 17 , 2013

The main suspects in the Natalee Holloway case , Joran van der Sloot and Deepak Kalpoe , some months before her disappearance participated in a sex fest with American tourists were in a hotel in Aruba. In addition , Van der Sloot as a witness filming of an underage girl . This is contained in the confidential police file on the case , which KRO's Focal - Reporter got hands . The investigation also found chat messages showing that Joran van der Sloot and Satish Kalpoe re photo and film wanted to make a woman . Few weeks after

Joran hired along with a group of friends during the Easter holidays of 2005 for three days a room at the Mill Hotel in Aruba. At one point there were two American tourists were and a Colombian girl brought to the room , with whom contact was made in Carlos' n Charlies , the nightclub where Natalee Holloway was on the night of her disappearance .

Freddy , a friend of Joran was present and stated to the police : " It was on a Saturday that Joran , Deepak and I went to The Mill Hotel along with three girls I have sex with an American girl sitting Deepak went into the bathroom . . went AMERICAN sex with a girl on the balcony . with the Colombian girl. Joran Joran told me later that the girl had sucked him. " on the balcony Another witness says: " Joran had said that when he was in me this year " The Mili Hotel " was staying , he had filmed when the girl under the influence of alcoholic beverages wrong a fourteen year old girl in the hotel room . "

Research by the Dutch Forensic Institute at the computer Joran van der Sloot , has proved again that he was planning to make a sex act . Filming a few weeks later Satish Kalpoe asks Joran van der Sloot that he is going to do that day. Joran : " A little f***en with my chick on the beach ." Satish : " This time we're filming it ."

A cold case team re- investigated in the case, pulled in an official report concluded: " The seized chats , found on the computer of Joran van der Sloot , know actually but a few topics f***en or f*** , alcohol , chicks and renting hotel rooms , apparently for there to have sex with girls and photographing or filming them . "

Following the Cold Case investigation, Joran vd Sloot arrested again in 2007 , but in Aruba released for lack of evidence by a judge again .

The reports on the issue can be read on the website of Focal - KRO Reporter : reporter.incontxt.nl

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Er_kQrllIyk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Er_kQrllIyk</a>
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #114 on: October 19, 2013, 01:23:13 PM »



Really Julia...ya think they might have been planning to do the same with Natalee?

Well of course you do, you've always known.

I've got one word for you Julia, KARMA. 

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #115 on: October 19, 2013, 01:31:56 PM »

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Published on Oct 16 , 2013

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A man who may had with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway , a miss by the police and immigration authorities in Aruba , fled to South America . According to research by Crime Site journalists Wim van de Pol and Vincent Verweij . Tonight is featured in the program Focal KRO Reporter ( Thursday, October 17 , 21:10 am, Netherlands 2 ) a documentary. File Holloway : . On the case next week book also appears

The man tried the American tourist Tracey Allan , to rape on the beach at the Fishermen 's Huts . That was nine days before the disappearance of Natalee Holloway , in the exact same spot where Joran van der Sloot said to have left her.

The man was arrested in 2006 because of an expired visa , but not recognized a composite shot , which the rapist was made ​​. Moments later he was released . When the police still wanted to arrest him, then he proved to have fled. Tracey Allan was in May 2005 on holiday in Aruba . During a walk at sunrise , she was attacked by a nearly naked man , at the height of the Fishermen 's Huts , a quiet stretch of beach . The man tried to drag her into his car and threatened her . Tracey resisted and managed to escape , and they reported it to the police on Aruba . After the disappearance of Natalee Holloway , she was approached by the FBI to the man who was shown include Requested in a broadcast of Investigation , which was entirely devoted to the Holloway case . A composite sketch

A few months later, Tracey Allan invited to a photo - confrontation with the FBI . In Focus Reporter she says : "I have the man who attacked me when 100 % identified few weeks then called an Aruban police me they had him arrested , but he was set free again and that he had fled to Colombia I was . . devastated. "

The Public Prosecutor in Aruba , confirms the state of affairs . According to Peter Blanken , Chief Justice of Aruba , the man initially arrested for a valid residence permit . It was the wanted rapist , but he was not recognized by the Aruban authorities . The man was released. After Tracey Allan had identified him , still wanted to arrest him . Whites : "When we wanted to arrest him as a suspect , he found the island to be gone He went to Colombia or Venezuela The information from the Immigration Service has not arrived at the police . . ." Even after his disappearance , no attempts have been made to find the man. Chief says Whites still the possibility of an international arrest warrant to want to see .

Joran van der Sloot initially made ​​several statements about the night Natalee Holloway disappeared . In his last statement to the police , he says that he has left dormant state at the Fisherman 's Huts Natalee overnight and then was picked up by a friend . This is evident from the police file which KRO Reporter Focal features .

Focal Reporter : Thursday, October 17 , 21:10 am, Netherlands 2
File Holloway : http://www.bol.com/nl/p/dossier-hollo ...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/9HOBEe4z89k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/9HOBEe4z89k</a>
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #116 on: October 20, 2013, 01:31:33 AM »

I made a thread for billb in our Memorial area of the forum.  I copied the condolence messages that had been posted here, and posted them over there too.  I thought afterwards...I should have posted them in one huge quote stack....billb would have loved that!  Made me smile too.

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14746.0

Thank you!

   

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« Reply #117 on: October 20, 2013, 05:10:06 AM »


billb passed away peacefully 30 Sept 2013.....his heart was always with Natalee, Beth, and Dave..........
Loved you Monkeys....
His daughter.....
 



Prayers to your family from the monkey family.

Cadillac

I'm so sorry.   
   Rest in peace billb.   an angelic monkey



I'm so sorry to hear this.  He always fought for Natalee.  Prayers for you family.  May he rest in peace.



My heart goes out to you and your family and all who loved billb.  Thanks so much for letting us know.  Prayers for all of you.  Natalee has another angel leading us towards the truth, so we can bring her home to her loving family.

    an angelic monkey



Wow -- I'm so saddened to hear of this! There are not a lot of guys here - "Keep The Faith" and I in particular will really miss him. My sincerest condolences to your family.

I'm so sorry.  Sending my deepest sympathy to you and your family.  May God grant billb eternal peace and everlasting joy.
He was always here--working for justice for Natalee and her family.
He will be missed. 
Rest in Peace, dear billb.  an angelic monkey 



billb's daughter,

I am so shocked to learn of this sad, sad news.

billb will be greatly missed, but never forgotten. He waa a great part of this Monkey family..

Please let your family know how much he is missed and how much our hearts go out to you and
your family at this sorrowful time. Words are never enough but I hope your heart will heal
knowing how much billb was loved and respected by me and all of us here at SM.

  




 

So very sorry to hear this news.  My condolences to you and your family.



So sad...my sincere condolences to you and your family.  Thank you for letting us know. 

Rest in peace, billb.   an angelic monkey


I made a thread for billb in our Memorial area of the forum.  I copied the condolence messages that had been posted here, and posted them over there too.  I thought afterwards...I should have posted them in one huge quote stack....billb would have loved that!  Made me smile too.

 an angelic monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14746.0

(Bolded by me)

Thank you texasmom.     And yes, I agree billb would have loved one humongous quote stack!   Monkey Devil!   an angelic monkey


Dear billb's daughters:

My love to your family and to all of billb's loved ones.  I shall remember him fondly and speak well of him always.  May you have comfort and peace.

- Lifesong



This is sad news to me in many ways.  I remember when billb first joined the forum I thought he was robots come back, their posting styles seemed so similar to me.

In the end, I know I didn't always agree with billb, but I loved that he was here.  And he often made me chuckle.


Here's a fun link to a stackaholic Post from the Past in his honor:

Bubba........Bubba....Bubba....did you say Bubba???


"We are one day closer to Justice for Natalee" - billb



Klaas & The Amazing Mods:  Please forgive, as a fellow stack-aholic, I couldn't resist.


Godspeed, billb.   an angelic monkey

Stack 'em if you got 'em.  Thanks for this post Lifesong!

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« Reply #118 on: October 20, 2013, 07:52:31 AM »

I made a thread for billb in our Memorial area of the forum.  I copied the condolence messages that had been posted here, and posted them over there too.  I thought afterwards...I should have posted them in one huge quote stack....billb would have loved that!  Made me smile too.

 an angelic monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14746.0

(Bolded by me)

Thank you texasmom.    And yes, I agree billb would have loved one humongous quote stack!   Monkey Devil!   an angelic monkey

Thanks TM!  I was going to start a new post for the Bucuti Cam Archives but I'll quote instead    Looking empty at Bucuti Beach going back quite a while!

http://www.bucuticam.com/album2/gallery.php?page=0&sort=&perPage=&album=



Home Rental Robbery

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97899

Rudeness at Costa Linda Breach Resort Store

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97853

Worst meal in Aruba - I see Buccaneer got mentioned a few times

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97836


They paint the tourists and visitors with a different brush, literally.  You are given your letter upon arrival, (while not scarlet, a letter all the same).  Your rental car is stamped with a 'V' as a courtesy, to the bad guys, just so the criminals know who to follow.  When someone is upset about rental properties being targeted so much, instead of offering a plausible solution or some sympathy, there is always someone who says to 'look on the bright side' or 'it could be worse.'  I recognize this tone, it means, "Don't burden me with your problems."  I heard the same words when certain people saw my son as a younger child.  It also means, "We want to close our eyes to your problem because it doesn't affect us.  Oh, and please don't ask for any help."  One thing that bothers me is when someone tells someone else how long to be upset about something.  Someone is upset, don't take it upon yourself to start your stop watch and tell them how long it should take to grieve what they lost.  Yes, I said, grieve.  You are grieving the death of One Happy Island, a place where you once felt safe, and its rebirth into One Unsafe Island.  It takes time to mourn losses, the time of the person affected, not the time of the bystander.      

"Hey Joe, how did you like your trip to Aruba?"  
"Well, George, it could have been worse, can't wait to go again next year."  
"Joe, why would you want to go back with that attitude?"  
"George, I am looking on the bright side!  They stole my laptop, my iPhone, 2 notebook computers, an iPod, and 5 cell phones.  Next year, thanks to those forward-thinking thieves, I won't have to bring all those things with me, so my back will be in much better shape.  Think of all the stuff I won't have to lug with me anymore.  In addition, due to the bad economy, I cannot afford to buy others to replace them.  I won't have any electronics, so they can no longer be stolen.  Great thinking, huh, George?  Love Aruba!"  
"Joe, stay out of that Aruban sun."
****************************

A woman walks into a shop to buy a bathing suit.  This woman's shape was apparently not to the liking of the salesperson waiting on her.  In addition, this kind and lovely woman, as reported by those who know her, is in her third year of Stage 4 cancer, hence the figure transformation.  This salesperson, reduces this woman to tears and she left the shop in despair.  Instead of getting the courtesy and attention she deserved, she gets torn to shreds by the salesperson.  Now, any one of these things taken separately should demand respect.  She was a customer who came to your store, she is kind, she has been living a nightmare for who knows how many years.

The owner gets wind of it.  Some other shop owners and he treat her and a friend to dinner, gave her roses with a white one in the center (this signals how she is so special she stands out--she shouldn't stand out, all customers should be treated with courtesy).  They made her stand out by demoralizing her.  She was trying to fit in.  They are going to meet with the salesperson to train that person to be kinder.  (Some things cannot be taught, anyone who would do that to another human being has coal where his heart should be.)  If you want to keep that employee, keep them away from the customers and other employees, doing stock work or paperwork.  Must be a relative.  These people don't work in a vacuum, though, and would need to come in contact with others at times.  They need extensive training as this behavior is ingrained.  I don't care how bad your day was, you don't treat people like that, period.  I cannot imagine much worse.  Oh wait...  

Hello, Beth and Dave your daughter is temporarily missing, go have a drink and she will magically reappear.  The drinks are spiked with magic juice, they make people disappear and then reappear.  We have done this many times before.  She is safe.

Hello Beth, your daughter fell in love with a blond guy down on the beach.  He is a bushy haired stranger with a dingo.  Don't worry, dingoes only eat babies, they have no taste for females on this island once they hit toddler size.  It happens all the time.  She is safe.

Hello, Beth, your daughter was borrowed by a security guard at her motel.  Don't worry, she is in good hands.  He's a security guard for heaven sakes, she is secure.  Does not happen very often.  We don't know if she is safe.  We will arrest him and pin the crime on him.

Hello, Beth, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.....

Hello, Beth, this is Peru.  We got him!  Unfortunately, he removed the jewel from another loving family's crown first.  We feel your pain.
************************
As far as getting bad food in Aruba, you are lucky if it is just bad food and does not contain body fluids.  Hopefully there is an antidote for whatever disease arises from it.  Ask Beth about the food in Aruba.

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I would suggest the people on that website buy Beth's book and attend a lecture or two about travel safety with her, then go to Natalee's center and grab as much information as they can on safe traveling.  It would make them less likely to be a victim.  They should study hard if they wish to return to the Island of No Return.  Please, be a life saver, leave your daughters home.  

You can enter any time you like...

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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #119 on: October 20, 2013, 11:58:33 AM »

I made a thread for billb in our Memorial area of the forum.  I copied the condolence messages that had been posted here, and posted them over there too.  I thought afterwards...I should have posted them in one huge quote stack....billb would have loved that!  Made me smile too.

 an angelic monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14746.0

(Bolded by me)

Thank you texasmom.    And yes, I agree billb would have loved one humongous quote stack!   Monkey Devil!   an angelic monkey

Thanks TM!  I was going to start a new post for the Bucuti Cam Archives but I'll quote instead    Looking empty at Bucuti Beach going back quite a while!

http://www.bucuticam.com/album2/gallery.php?page=0&sort=&perPage=&album=



Home Rental Robbery

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97899

Rudeness at Costa Linda Breach Resort Store

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97853

Worst meal in Aruba - I see Buccaneer got mentioned a few times

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97836


They paint the tourists and visitors with a different brush, literally.  You are given your letter upon arrival, (while not scarlet, a letter all the same).  Your rental car is stamped with a 'V' as a courtesy, to the bad guys, just so the criminals know who to follow.  When someone is upset about rental properties being targeted so much, instead of offering a plausible solution or some sympathy, there is always someone who says to 'look on the bright side' or 'it could be worse.'  I recognize this tone, it means, "Don't burden me with your problems."  I heard the same words when certain people saw my son as a younger child.  It also means, "We want to close our eyes to your problem because it doesn't affect us.  Oh, and please don't ask for any help."  One thing that bothers me is when someone tells someone else how long to be upset about something.  Someone is upset, don't take it upon yourself to start your stop watch and tell them how long it should take to grieve what they lost.  Yes, I said, grieve.  You are grieving the death of One Happy Island, a place where you once felt safe, and its rebirth into One Unsafe Island.  It takes time to mourn losses, the time of the person affected, not the time of the bystander.      

"Hey Joe, how did you like your trip to Aruba?"  
"Well, George, it could have been worse, can't wait to go again next year."  
"Joe, why would you want to go back with that attitude?"  
"George, I am looking on the bright side!  They stole my laptop, my iPhone, 2 notebook computers, an iPod, and 5 cell phones.  Next year, thanks to those forward-thinking thieves, I won't have to bring all those things with me, so my back will be in much better shape.  Think of all the stuff I won't have to lug with me anymore.  In addition, due to the bad economy, I cannot afford to buy others to replace them.  I won't have any electronics, so they can no longer be stolen.  Great thinking, huh, George?  Love Aruba!"  
"Joe, stay out of that Aruban sun."
****************************

A woman walks into a shop to buy a bathing suit.  This woman's shape was apparently not to the liking of the salesperson waiting on her.  In addition, this kind and lovely woman, as reported by those who know her, is in her third year of Stage 4 cancer, hence the figure transformation.  This salesperson, reduces this woman to tears and she left the shop in despair.  Instead of getting the courtesy and attention she deserved, she gets torn to shreds by the salesperson.  Now, any one of these things taken separately should demand respect.  She was a customer who came to your store, she is kind, she has been living a nightmare for who knows how many years.

The owner gets wind of it.  Some other shop owners and he treat her and a friend to dinner, gave her roses with a white one in the center (this signals how she is so special she stands out--she shouldn't stand out, all customers should be treated with courtesy).  They made her stand out by demoralizing her.  She was trying to fit in.  They are going to meet with the salesperson to train that person to be kinder.  (Some things cannot be taught, anyone who would do that to another human being has coal where his heart should be.)  If you want to keep that employee, keep them away from the customers and other employees, doing stock work or paperwork.  Must be a relative.  These people don't work in a vacuum, though, and would need to come in contact with others at times.  They need extensive training as this behavior is ingrained.  I don't care how bad your day was, you don't treat people like that, period.  I cannot imagine much worse.  Oh wait...  

Hello, Beth and Dave your daughter is temporarily missing, go have a drink and she will magically reappear.  The drinks are spiked with magic juice, they make people disappear and then reappear.  We have done this many times before.  She is safe.

Hello Beth, your daughter fell in love with a blond guy down on the beach.  He is a bushy haired stranger with a dingo.  Don't worry, dingoes only eat babies, they have no taste for females on this island once they hit toddler size.  It happens all the time.  She is safe.

Hello, Beth, your daughter was borrowed by a security guard at her motel.  Don't worry, she is in good hands.  He's a security guard for heaven sakes, she is secure.  Does not happen very often.  We don't know if she is safe.  We will arrest him and pin the crime on him.

Hello, Beth, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.....

Hello, Beth, this is Peru.  We got him!  Unfortunately, he removed the jewel from another loving family's crown first.  We feel your pain.
************************
As far as getting bad food in Aruba, you are lucky if it is just bad food and does not contain body fluids.  Hopefully there is an antidote for whatever disease arises from it.  Ask Beth about the food in Aruba.

***********************
I would suggest the people on that website buy Beth's book and attend a lecture or two about travel safety with her, then go to Natalee's center and grab as much information as they can on safe traveling.  It would make them less likely to be a victim.  They should study hard if they wish to return to the Island of No Return.  Please, be a life saver, leave your daughters home.  

You can enter any time you like...



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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