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« Reply #620 on: July 25, 2014, 10:23:06 AM »

Hey, Klaasend (and Muffy and TexasMom), I'm good.  Tiara all shiny and everything.  Great to see y'all are still around.  Email me anytime.  Best to y'all always!

I want you to know it wasn't easy finding the original image on the internet for your old avatar:  Monkey Devil!


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« Reply #621 on: July 25, 2014, 08:03:41 PM »

See how adorable I looked!!  I didn't even need that tiara.  (You are probably the only person in the world who could have found that picture!  Thanks for the memory.)
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« Reply #622 on: July 25, 2014, 08:35:19 PM »

See how adorable I looked!!  I didn't even need that tiara.  (You are probably the only person in the world who could have found that picture!  Thanks for the memory.)

You're very welcome!  I always liked that avatar, even without the tiara.  That smiling stick figure is so cute!
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« Reply #623 on: July 25, 2014, 09:01:44 PM »

I totally agree, she's precious!   
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« Reply #624 on: July 25, 2014, 09:47:16 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/venezuela-official-seeks-immunity-aruba-ruling-24716970

Aruba to Hold Venezuela Official Seeks Immunity
ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Jul 25, 2014, 8:35 PM ET
By DILMA ARENDS GEERMAN and JOSHUA GOODMAN
Associated Press

A judge in Aruba ruled Friday that the highest-ranking Venezuelan official ever arrested on a U.S. warrant will remain behind bars pending an extradition request on drug charges.

Hugo Carvajal, a former head of Venezuelan military intelligence and close confidant of the late president Hugo Chavez, was arrested upon arriving at Aruba's airport, officials said Thursday. U.S. authorities allege he's one of several high-ranking Venezuelan military and law enforcement officials who provided a haven to major drug traffickers from neighboring Colombia and helped them export large amounts of U.S. bound cocaine through Venezuela.

His surprise arrest has cast a spotlight on what's known in Venezuela as the "Cartel of the Suns," referring to rogue, high-ranking military officers believed to have grown rich from drug-running. Top Venezuelan officers wear sun insignia on their uniforms.

Together with the unsealing Thursday of a drug indictment against two other Venezuelan officials, Carvajal's arrest is likely to ratchet up tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela's socialist government, which frequently accuses Washington of conspiring against it and using the drug war to apply pressure on Latin America.

President Nicolas Maduro has already threatened to retaliate against Aruba, just 15 miles off Venezuela's coast, unless Carvajal is freed. The president likened Carvajal's arrest to an "ambush" and "kidnapping" that violates international law because he had been appointed the country's consul to the Caribbean island. Prosecutors in Aruba say that while Carvajal was carrying a diplomatic passport he isn't entitled to immunity because he was not yet accredited by the Netherlands, which runs foreign affairs for its former colony.

"We won't let our honor or that of any Venezuelan be sullied by campaigns orchestrated from the empire," Maduro said in a speech Thursday night.

Carvajal's attorney, Chris Lejuez, told The Associated Press on Friday that his client denies all charges against him and will seek diplomatic immunity from extradition.

Later Friday, judge Yvonne van Wersch ruled that Carvajal must remain in custody until there's a decision in his extradition case.

Chief prosecutor Peter Blanken said the judge determined that Carvajal does not have diplomatic immunity. Following the ruling, Lejuez did not return a message seeking comment.

Carvajal, who earned Chavez's trust as a military cadet in the early 1980s, has long been a target of U.S. law enforcement.

 
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« Reply #625 on: July 25, 2014, 09:59:25 PM »

http://online.wsj.com/articles/fitch-downgrades-aruba-on-impact-of-valero-refinery-suspensions-1406132611

Fitch Cuts Aruba Ratings on Valero Refinery Suspensions
Firm Rates Caribbean Island One Notch Above Junk, Saying Suspensions Highlight Its Narrow Economic Structure

By Tess Stynes

Updated July 23, 2014 2:21 p.m. ET

Fitch Ratings lowered its debt ratings on Aruba to the brink of junk status, citing the negative impact of recurring suspensions of Valero Energy Corp.'s VLO +1.07% refinery operations on the Caribbean island's growth.

The credit-rating firm has Aruba at triple-B-minus, one notch above junk status. Fitch said the impact of refinery suspensions highlights the island's narrow economic structure and vulnerability to external shocks.

 

The ratings and outlook also factor in a recovery in the U.S. tourism market but a deceleration in arrivals because of less frequent flights and stricter foreign exchange quotas for Venezuelan tourists. The U.S. and Venezuela account for 76% of tourist arrivals in Aruba.

 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #626 on: July 25, 2014, 10:04:30 PM »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28472222

 24 July 2014 Last updated at 15:55 ET

Aruba detains Venezuelan general on US drug trafficking list

A top Venezuelan official, Gen Hugo Carvajal, has been detained in the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba at the request of the American government.

He had been accused by the US Treasury of assisting Colombian Farc rebels in their drug trafficking activities.

The Venezuelan government said Gen Carvajal had a diplomatic passport and that his arrest was illegal.

He had been appointed by Venezuela as its consul in Aruba.

But the Dutch government had rejected the appointment for over a year.


 
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« Reply #627 on: July 25, 2014, 10:36:24 PM »

http://amsterdamnews.com/news/2014/jul/24/aruba-reaches-out-has-problems/

Aruba Reaches Out but has Problems
Bert Wilkinson | 7/24/2014, 4:06 p.m.

Just last weekend, the Aruban prime minister, Mike Eman, other cabinet ministers and high officials ended a week-long hunger strike to protest what authorities said were efforts by the Netherlands, the island’s so-called mother country, to sabotage the 2014-15 budget.

The hunger strike had much to do with different approaches to what austerity measures the budget should contain. The Netherlands wants the administration of the island of 102,000 people to implement tough measures, similar to those imposed by the International Monetary Fund on economically ill third world countries. The cabinet resisted, arguing that it had its own independent approach to correcting an underperforming economy and would not bow to Dutch dictates.

The standoff led to the Hague advising the island’s governor, Fredis Jose Refunjol, not to sign off on the estimates, forcing officials to spend contingency funds at levels similar to those of 2013.

 

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« Reply #628 on: July 25, 2014, 11:43:12 PM »



Justice for Natalee!

 

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« Reply #629 on: July 27, 2014, 08:50:28 PM »

News from uh-roo-buh...  Some familiar names in this article.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/27/world/americas/aruba-us-venezuela-ex-general-arrested/
Venezuela: Aruba to release ex-general wanted in U.S.
July 27, 2014


(CNN) -- A retired Venezuelan military general will be released from custody in Aruba, days after authorities arrested him there, Venezuela's foreign minister said Sunday.
In remarks broadcast on state television, Venezuelan Foreign Minister Elias Jaua said Dutch officials had admitted that the detention of Hugo Carvajal violated his diplomatic immunity.
Carvajal, who is wanted in the United States for alleged drug-trafficking ties, was Venezuela's head of military intelligence from 2004 to 2008 and was tapped as the country's consul to Aruba this year.
He was arrested Wednesday night on his arrival in the Caribbean island.
Peter Blanken, chief prosecutor in Aruba, told CNN en Español last week that a judge decided the arrest was "legal and correct."
The arrest was based on a formal request from the United States. Blanken said Aruba was "obliged to cooperate" because of a treaty with the United States.
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro had said Carvajal was "illegally kidnapped." And Chris Lejuez, Carvajal's lawyer, argued that his client has diplomatic immunity, state media in Venezuela reported last week.
"No country can help another violate international treaties," he said, according to the state-run AVN news agency.
Carvajal had a diplomatic passport and a regular passport.
Venezuela's Foreign Ministry condemned what it called an unjust and unprecedented arrest and said officials were working through diplomatic channels to resolve the matter.
 
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« Reply #630 on: July 28, 2014, 01:10:02 AM »

A persona non grata like Joran was?   

http://online.wsj.com/articles/netherlands-rules-venezuelan-detained-in-aruba-has-diplomatic-immunity-1406505987?mod=fox_australian

Netherlands Says Venezuelan Detained in Aruba Has Immunity
Aruban Authorities Free Former General Wanted by U.S. for Drug Trafficking

By
Juan Forero And
Dan Molinski
Updated July 27, 2014 10:59 p.m. ET

 

Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the prosecutor's office, said the Netherlands, of which Aruba is a part, ruled that Mr. Carvajal had diplomatic immunity. Mr. Carvajal's release was announced at a news conference on the island by Arthur Dowers, the justice minister, and the chief prosecutor, Peter Blanken.

Mr. Blanken last week said Mr. Carvajal didn't have diplomatic immunity, and that he would remain jailed while the U.S. worked on extraditing him to face charges.

But he said officials in the Netherlands overruled judicial authorities on the island, with the foreign minister in The Hague explaining in a letter delivered on Sunday.

"There's a new point of view from foreign affairs in Holland," Mr. Blanken said. "Foreign affairs is not an Aruba matter, but a Dutch matter. They changed their mind."

Mr. Blanken added that Mr. Carvajal wouldn't be allowed back to Aruba. "He's a persona non grata."


Mr. Maduro thanked the Netherlands and called it "brave" for overruling the decision.

A senior U.S. official said the U.S. had been blindsided by the Dutch decision to free Mr. Carvajal. The official expressed enormous frustration that a man the U.S. considers a dangerous criminal is returning to freedom in Caracas.

"We don't agree with or understand the reasoning of the government of the Netherlands," said the official. "We totally disagree with their interpretation of the Vienna convention that Carvajal had to be released."

The official said that since the arrest, Venezuela had exerted enormous pressure on Aruba, threatening to shut commercial air service to the island, which Arubans say depends on large numbers of Venezuelan tourists.

Meanwhile, the U.S. official said Venezuela's state-owned oil company also warned it would walk away from a refinery it runs on the neighboring island Curaçao, which is also Dutch, threatening 8,000 jobs.

Venezuelan officials couldn't be reached for comment on the allegations. But Mr. Maduro last week said Venezuela would try to win Mr. Carvajal's release employing "all the force of the state."

The fast turn of events is a setback for American efforts to fight narcotics in the region. On Thursday, a day after Mr. Carvajal was detained at the airport in Oranjestad, indictments were unsealed in Miami and New York accusing the former general of helping traffic cocaine to the U.S.

In the Miami indictment, Mr. Carvajal was accused of taking bribes from late Colombian kingpin Wilber Varela, who was killed in 2008, in return allowing Mr. Varela to export cocaine to the U.S. from Venezuela and avoid arrest by Venezuelan authorities. In the New York indictment, prosecutors accused him of coordinating the smuggling of more than 12,000 pounds of cocaine in April 2006 from Venezuela that was bound for the U.S.

In 2008, the U.S. Treasury Department put Mr. Carvajal on a blacklist that sanctions Americans for doing business with him, alleging he had protected the drug-trafficking operations of a Colombian rebel group and assisted the guerrillas with weapons and logistical help.

Mr. Carvajal couldn't be reached for comment, but he and the Venezuelan government have denied American claims of wrongdoing, saying his reputation was being tarnished for political reasons.

Mr. Maduro said that in coming days he would refute all allegations made against Mr. Carvajal, which he said were being trumped up by evidence fabricated by international foes trying to topple the Venezuelan government.

—José de Córdoba
and Kejal Vyas
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« Reply #631 on: July 28, 2014, 01:11:37 AM »



Justice for Natalee!

 


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« Reply #632 on: July 28, 2014, 09:46:57 PM »

Busted! 

http://trome.pe/actualidad/joran-van-der-sloot-tenia-moderno-celular-su-poder-2017438

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Monday July 28, 2014 | 18:23
Joran van der Sloot was modern in cellular power!

A Modern cell he was seized, the morning of Monday, July 28, Dutch Joran van der Sloot in his cell the Criminal Ancon I (Piedras Gordas) in an operation between officers of the National Police and officials of the INPE. 

The operation was performed when all heard the Message to the Nation by President Ollanta Humala. "When the police and INPE personnel entered the Pavilion No.7 found seven prisoners talking on cell phones, including Joran van der Sloot, who was presumed had been using the device to play the lottery," said a source, as Trome reported July 10.

With the authorities in that flag, proceeded to review the technological device, finding your contacts, the number of his lawyer, his wife and an official of the Consulate of Netherlands in Peru.

"The cell was made of diposición authorities turn. The INPE is requesting the lifting of the secrecy of communications in order to know what people outside had contact with the convicts who knew and possession of prohibited items, "the source told Trome.
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« Reply #633 on: July 29, 2014, 07:49:24 AM »

Geez- who is surprised?  He seems to have too many privileges.

Where's the karma train?
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« Reply #634 on: July 29, 2014, 05:22:55 PM »

Geez- who is surprised?  He seems to have too many privileges.

Where's the karma train?

Not surprised...and waiting patiently...
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« Reply #635 on: July 29, 2014, 05:29:47 PM »

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3705244/2014/07/29/Joran-van-der-Slot-gokte-met-smartphone-vanuit-zijn-cel.dhtml

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"Joran van der Slot gambled with smartphone from his cell '
29-7-14 - 22:07

Piedras Gordas prison in Peru yesterday smartphones confiscated at seven detainees including Joran van der Sloot. He and his fellow prisoners used the phone presumably to gamble in the lottery, reports the newspaper Trome.

Van der Sloot are illegal phone ownership saw punishable by a stay of two weeks in solitary confinement, declared his lawyer opposite the Dutch news agency Novum News today. According Máximo Altez his client had to give up his smartphone after he refused to pay for the possession of the unit. Prison director 'bribe'
 
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« Reply #636 on: July 29, 2014, 07:41:28 PM »

Wonder if the wifey gets to visit him in solitary?
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« Reply #637 on: August 02, 2014, 09:19:51 PM »

http://bronxville.dailyvoice.com/neighbors/happy-birthday-bronxville-s-john-quinlan-kelly


Happy Birthday To Bronxville’s John Quinlan Kelly
by Daily Voice Neighbors 07/31/14

BRONXVILLE, N.Y. -- Happy Birthday to Bronxville’s John Quinlan Kelly!

John Quinlan Kelly, a long time Bronxville resident, turns 61 on Thursday.

Kelly, a New York City attorney specializing in high-profile wrongful death cases, was born July 31, 1953, in Evanston, Ill. He received a bachelor of arts degree from Georgetown University and his J.D. from Suffolk University. He was admitted to the bar in 1981. He served as an assistant prosecutor in the Queens District Attorney's Office before going into private practice.

Some of his notable cases include the following.

    Estate of Nicole Brown Simpson versus O.J. Simpson.
    Attorney for Beth Holloway Twitty in Natalie Holloway disappearance.
 
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« Reply #638 on: August 03, 2014, 01:04:29 AM »

http://online.wsj.com/articles/aruba-says-venezuela-raised-military-pressure-on-it-1406594604

Aruba Says Venezuela Raised Military Pressure on It

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José de Córdoba
July 28, 2014 8:43 p.m. ET

CARACAS—The Netherlands' release of a former top Venezuelan official wanted by the U.S. for alleged drug trafficking came after Venezuela raised economic and military pressure on two Dutch islands in the Caribbean, a top Aruban official said Monday.

Aruba's chief prosecutor Peter Blanken said that Venezuelan navy ships neared Aruba and Curaçao over the weekend as Dutch officials were debating what to do with Hugo Carvajal —Venezuela's former chief of military intelligence who was jailed in Aruba last week on a U.S. warrant.

"The threat was there," Mr. Blanken said. "We don't know what their intentions were, but I think a lot of people in Aruba were scared that something would happen."

Mr. Blanken said Venezuela's government also had threatened to sever Venezuela's vital commercial air links to Aruba and Curaçao. Venezuela's state oil company also threatened to withdraw from a contract to manage Curaçao's refinery, Mr. Blanken said, which would have put at risk some 8,000 jobs.

Aruban officials on Wednesday detained Mr. Carvajal, known as "el Pollo," or "the Chicken," but then released him on Sunday night after the Dutch government ruled that he was protected by diplomatic immunity. The decision overruled Aruban officials who had decided that the Venezuelan had no immunity because he hadn't been confirmed as consul by the Dutch government.

Much to the dismay of U.S. officials, Mr. Carvajal flew to Caracas on Sunday night to a hero's welcome from President Nicolás Maduro.

Annemijn van den Broek, a spokeswoman for the Dutch Foreign Ministry, said the decision to release Mr. Carvajal was made solely on legal grounds. She confirmed Venezuelan ships had come close to the islands, but said the Dutch Ministry of Defense had been told by the Venezuelans that the ships were returning from a naval exercise.

"I understand that the people on the island had a sense of urgency, but we have confirmation that this had nothing to do with the case," she said.

Ms. Van den Broek declined to comment on any threats of economic sanctions by Venezuela, but said the Venezuelan government made it clear they "were not amused by the situation."

 

"We are disturbed by credible reports that have come to us indicating the Venezuelan government threatened the governments of Aruba, the Netherlands and others to obtain this result," said Susan Bridenstine, a U.S. State Department spokeswoman. "This is not the way law enforcement matters should be handled."

She said the Dutch decided to release Mr. Carvajal "on the basis of claims of immunity that are beyond established international norms."

Manhattan federal prosecutors, who unsealed an indictment against Mr. Carvajal late Thursday, were blindsided by his release, said a person familiar with the matter. Prosecutors wouldn't have filed a provisional arrest warrant without believing there was a high likelihood of successfully extraditing Mr. Carvajal, the person said.

Officials in the Manhattan U.S. attorney's office feel the Dutch caved in to pressure from Venezuela, the person said. The officials fear the release could hurt the office's relationship with its network of confidential sources, who could be reluctant to share further information if it doesn't lead to results, the person said.

Andy Lee, director of Aruba's foreign affairs department, said Mr. Carvajal was deemed "persona non grata" and won't be permitted back to Aruba, a decision he said was passed down from Foreign Ministry officials in The Hague.

 
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« Reply #639 on: August 03, 2014, 01:15:12 AM »



Justice for Natalee!

 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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