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Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 - 3/20/15 (Read 660311 times)
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 -
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Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-13/how-an-aruba-taxi-driver-saves-17-000-bootlegging-venezuela-gas
Officially, the island nation imports 75 to 80 million liters of gasoline a year, none of which comes from PDVSA, Dijkhoff-Pita said.
San Antonio-based Valero Energy Corp., which owns a 235,000 barrel-a-day refinery in San Nicolas, Aruba that has been idled since September 2012, has plans to dismantle it later this year if a buyer doesn’t emerge, Media Relations Vice President Bill Day said Jan. 20.
While the refinery will continue to operate as a petroleum and product storage terminal, Aruba’s government probably will continue to import gasoline to meet domestic demand.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/02/18/aruba-revisiting-natalee-holloway-burial-claim/
Aruba revisiting Natalee Holloway burial claim
Posted on Feb 18, 2015 by Zack Newmark
Investigators in Aruba are looking into newly-revealed claims that American teenager Natalee Holloway was seen with Joran van der Sloot at a Marriott hotel construction site the night she went missing. The former public prosecutor there had previously written off the lead, suggesting it was not credible enough to warrant use of the island’s resources.
New prosecutor Eric Olthof, in office since late last summer, is reviewing the lead and case file, a spokesperson told RTL Nieuws. Holloway’s father had also reported smelling a stench like a rotten animal near the location, AD reported.
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Well slap my head silly. Ten years later and this bozo is thinking that maybe they should revisit the evidence in Natalee Holloway case. Take some advil stupid and go look at the evidence that you took into your possession from the cage. Morons.
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I agree with Kermit (as usual). Natalee may have been killed at the Marriott, but you probably won't find her there today. She was moved to the cage and dumped at sea.
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Thanks wreck. I agree 100%.
This prosecutor should make a visit to Joran in Peru prison and serve him his papers for the murder of Natalee Holloway and back it up with the evidence they pulled out of the cage. Pull the cage up and do a complete sucking up of the ocean floor (sorry, don't know what you call that, but I'm sure oceanexplorer would know). Then Aruba could relieve themselves of responsibility, but they think we are stupid. It's been 10 years and we are still here, waiting for justice to be served. Doing the right thing would help to change their image which they so want to protect and can't because they are pure evil.
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Dare we hope that one day there might be a resolution for Natalee and she really could be returned to American soil?
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Quote from: can on February 28, 2015, 07:11:05 AM
Dare we hope that one day there might be a resolution for Natalee and she really could be returned to American soil?
Absolutely, always hope!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/02/27/parliaments-discuss-crime-islands/
NETHERLANDS
PARLIAMENT TO DISCUSS CRIME ON ISLANDS
Posted on Feb 27, 2015 by Marvin Hokstam
Matters relating to criminality in the Dutch Caribbean islands of Aruba, Curaçao and St. Maarten will be on the agenda of Parliament next month.
In a memo that was issued on Wednesday, the Permanent Committee for Kingdom Relations of the Second Chamber informed Ministers Ronald Plasterk (Home Affairs, Kingdom Relations) and Ivo Opstelten (Justice and Security) of the “general consultation” on the islands, that has been scheduled for March 31 2015.
The Ministers have been requested to draft a preparatory letter that lays out the state of the Government on the islands.
“The letter should also shine light on the relationship between the “under and upper world” (including the gambling industry), recently released documents from the Intelligence Services Curaçao and the progress regarding the negotiations between the Netherlands and other Kingdom countries on strengthening the rule of law in the three countries,” the memo stated.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 -
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Quote from: texasmom on February 28, 2015, 04:43:55 PM
Quote from: can on February 28, 2015, 07:11:05 AM
Dare we hope that one day there might be a resolution for Natalee and she really could be returned to American soil?
Absolutely, always hope!
Never, ever give up!!
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https://www.facebook.com/Valbuena03/media_set?set=a.10205658063555727.1073741834.1378460105&type=3
Our Wedding 19-12-2014!!!
December 19, 2014 ·
Marriage does not guarantee that we will be together forever. It takes love, trust, respect, commitment, understanding, friendship and faith in our relationship to make it last. Love u Freddy Zedan
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205821476640952&set=a.10205821476160940.1073741836.1378460105&type=3&theater
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I'm surprised Sasha wasn't at the wedding, didn't see her in any of the pictures.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on February 28, 2015, 08:37:03 PM
I'm surprised Sasha wasn't at the wedding, didn't see her in any of the pictures.
Freddy is getting "pudgy". I"m surprised Sasha wasn't there too. Is she even in Aruba now or is she in the NL or Venezuela?
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Quote from: texasmom on February 28, 2015, 08:25:41 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Valbuena03/media_set?set=a.10205658063555727.1073741834.1378460105&type=3
Our Wedding 19-12-2014!!!
December 19, 2014 ·
Marriage does not guarantee that we will be together forever. It takes love, trust, respect, commitment, understanding, friendship and faith in our relationship to make it last. Love u Freddy Zedan
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205821476640952&set=a.10205821476160940.1073741836.1378460105&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205821506681703&set=a.10205821476160940.1073741836.1378460105&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205821535442422&set=a.10205821476160940.1073741836.1378460105&type=3&theater
Hard to believe that is Freddy!
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Quote from: texasmom on February 28, 2015, 08:37:03 PM
I'm surprised Sasha wasn't at the wedding, didn't see her in any of the pictures.
Freddy is getting "pudgy". I"m surprised Sasha wasn't there too. Is she even in Aruba now or is she in the NL or Venezuela?
Looks like she is in the NL. Odd she didn't come back to Aruba for the wedding.
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10 Years later Freddy is married. Natalee didn't get that chance:
Quote from: klaasend on December 20, 2006, 01:42:13 PM
In March 2005, 2 American girls went to Aruba. At some point durring their trip they met up with Stef, a local girl they call Loco Stef. Stef is a friend of Joran's. A photo of Joran, Deepak, Freddy and the girls in a car Deepak's driving was posted on the internet. The photo came from Bailey Ann's webshot site (which she has now made some changes to). Here are those original photos prior to the changes made by Bailey Ann. Note: I'm not sure we ever determined for sure what vehicle this is:
Joran in the passenger seat, Deepak behind the wheel
Alyse, Freddy and Loco Stef in the back seat - Bailey Ann must be taking the photo.
In the first photo we determined there are 2 video screens both showing the same porn video. We also determined the car is parked outside of the Diamonds International store.
Diamonds Int sign:
We later received this photo of Loco Stef and identified the location as The Mill Resorts. This photo is said to have been taken on March 10, 2005.
Photo of Joran and Loco Stef from an earlier date:
The photo above in the car was taken on Bailey and Alyse's last night in Aruba. Deepak and Joran have both admitting to picking up tourist girls 20 times before. Deepak has said they go to hotel rooms. The observation is The Mill Resort may be the location of choice for their escapades. They target tourist girls on their last night in Aruba.
Here is Bailey Ann's webshot site. The Aruba photos are there but she has now made some changes:
http://community.webshots.com/album/305850535ERHiiA
NOTE: All this information was sent to the family investigators months ago.
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Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2015, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
Quote from: texasmom on February 28, 2015, 08:37:03 PM
I'm surprised Sasha wasn't at the wedding, didn't see her in any of the pictures.
Freddy is getting "pudgy". I"m surprised Sasha wasn't there too. Is she even in Aruba now or is she in the NL or Venezuela?
Looks like she is in the NL. Odd she didn't come back to Aruba for the wedding.
The last I knew about her, she was going to school there. She and Freddy always seemed so close, and I feel sure the wedding had been planned for months. Not sure if Sasha's still in school or not, but I would think that should have fallen in with the Christmas break. Odd indeed.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2015, 04:16:40 PM
10 Years later Freddy is married. Natalee didn't get that chance:
Quote from: klaasend on December 20, 2006, 01:42:13 PM
In March 2005, 2 American girls went to Aruba. At some point durring their trip they met up with Stef, a local girl they call Loco Stef. Stef is a friend of Joran's. A photo of Joran, Deepak, Freddy and the girls in a car Deepak's driving was posted on the internet. The photo came from Bailey Ann's webshot site (which she has now made some changes to). Here are those original photos prior to the changes made by Bailey Ann. Note: I'm not sure we ever determined for sure what vehicle this is:
Joran in the passenger seat, Deepak behind the wheel
Alyse, Freddy and Loco Stef in the back seat - Bailey Ann must be taking the photo.
In the first photo we determined there are 2 video screens both showing the same porn video. We also determined the car is parked outside of the Diamonds International store.
Diamonds Int sign:
We later received this photo of Loco Stef and identified the location as The Mill Resorts. This photo is said to have been taken on March 10, 2005.
Photo of Joran and Loco Stef from an earlier date:
The photo above in the car was taken on Bailey and Alyse's last night in Aruba. Deepak and Joran have both admitting to picking up tourist girls 20 times before. Deepak has said they go to hotel rooms. The observation is The Mill Resort may be the location of choice for their escapades. They target tourist girls on their last night in Aruba.
Here is Bailey Ann's webshot site. The Aruba photos are there but she has now made some changes:
http://community.webshots.com/album/305850535ERHiiA
NOTE: All this information was sent to the family investigators months ago.
She didn't get that chance, and she's still not home. Unacceptable.
Not a single one of Joran's POS pimp friends have ever done anything to help her and her family have closure either.
Somebody knows, and karma's a b**ch. They just need to think about that when they're getting married, having kids, going on with their lives while Natalee's family still needs to bring her home from Aruba. What goes around comes around.
Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/03/02/natalee-holloways-father-calls-new-investigation-disappearance/
Natalee Holloway’s father calls for new investigation in disappearance
Posted on Mar 2, 2015 by Janene Van Jaarsveldt
Dave Holloway, Natalee Holloway’s father, has called on the Public Prosecutor to investigate the tip that his daughter is buried under the Marriott hotel in Aruba, the AD reports.
Natalee Holloway disappeared on May 30th, 2005 while on vacation with members of her Mountain Brook, Alabama high school graduation class in Aruba. Amsterdam resident Jurrien de Jong claims to have been an eyewitness to her disappearance. According to him, Joran van der Sloot killed the American girl on a closed construction site where a new complex of the Marriott hotel was under construction. De Jong states that he saw Van der Sloot hiding Holloway’s body under the floor of the Marriott Aruba Surf Club Hotel. De Jong was at the construction site that night for illegal, drug-related activities, which is why he did not come forward with his testimony right away.
In 2013 Dave Holloway spoke with De Jong several times. “His story sounded convincing on the phone”, he told the newspaper. Holloway remembers smelling a strong scent of decay when visiting the construction site after his daughter’s disappearance. He now thinks that De Jong’s story “should not be ignored”.
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===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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