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« Reply #460 on: June 14, 2005, 07:55:59 PM »

They rationalize it, they deserved it or you can probably find them in the bar or crack house.
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« Reply #461 on: June 14, 2005, 07:56:10 PM »

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MSNBC had stated today that an evidence van went to the site. They interviewed something via phone from the FBI who stated Aruba asked them to observe with evidence collection because they are not in the practice of having to do such on the island.


Fat chance:

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I don't think we know it was a "false lead"!  This could be the crime scene.  It may not but we still have forensics to wait on from today, etc.

Bums me out!  MS-NBC showed this kid "dangling" the womens underwear, a piece of black electrical tape, and a condom wrapper between his fingers.  As he walked away with these items, I thought... "How stupid are these people?!"  Rightly or wrongly, there is a little thing called "chain of custody".  

What if that's really eveidence?  The place crawling with police, and they let this kid handle, much less walk away with this stuff?

And what's wrong with the media, letting that happen?  Reminds me of the cameraman taking pictures of someone bleeding.  Put the stupid camera down and do something!
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« Reply #462 on: June 14, 2005, 07:57:32 PM »

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westcoastguy, while I find that unlikely, it is a possibility.  Once in a while when I sit here thinking that I know Joran is the liar and a killer, I remember his story that they dropped him at home then took off with her and I have to admit to myself that it is always possible that is how it played out.


dragonfly......exactly where i'm coming from.  Not my number 1 spec as to what happened but still entirely a possibility!
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« Reply #463 on: June 14, 2005, 07:57:36 PM »

Let's play judge judy

I can honestly say as a young girl on vacation:

Meet a guy from a fairly well to do family, honor student, flirting - reasonable.

Last night - spend some time on the beach kissing holding hands - understandable

Now following from this what would happen in between that Joran would want to cover up.  If the poor girl fell, had an overdose, hit her head whatever, he would have been running up the beach screaming and crying.  That didn't happen.  Something happened that he didn't want to talk about.  I think Frankenstein doesn't know his own strength.
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« Reply #464 on: June 14, 2005, 07:57:41 PM »

oh shit .. i just thought of something.. i hope im just crazy.. but.. this morn, one of the guards was on the radio..he said the guys ( the idiot brothers) told him all this stuff, the kid that gets the underwear, he get his sisters underwear and a couple of old condom packages and runs down to the site... the only reason im saying this is arubagirl said herself... "open up the phone lines and freaks of aruba, your voice will be heard"...

observations and disertations....
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« Reply #465 on: June 14, 2005, 07:58:43 PM »

On the topic of buddy systems. I am always the mom of my friends when we go out. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. Case in point, my girlfriend was leaving a bar one night with her "boyfriend" and his best friend whom I knew pretty well. I still did not want to let her go because she was very drunk but after all, she's a grown woman at the end of the night, with someone she knows and wasn't hearing anything I said. I could not make her go home with me and as a result, she was raped by her "boyfriend" and his friend that night.

You can not put blame on other people even when you have careful friends, things happen.
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« Reply #466 on: June 14, 2005, 07:59:14 PM »

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lost a little bit in here
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« Reply #467 on: June 14, 2005, 07:59:33 PM »

rob, you're not the first person to think that...it looks a little fishy to me
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« Reply #468 on: June 14, 2005, 07:59:37 PM »

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oh shit .. i just thought of something.. i hope im just crazy.. but.. this morn, one of the guards was on the radio..he said the guys ( the idiot brothers) told him all this stuff, the kid that gets the underwear, he get his sisters underwear and a couple of old condom packages and runs down to the site... the only reason im saying this is arubagirl said herself... "open up the phone lines and freaks of aruba, your voice will be heard"...

observations and disertations....

Point taken, Red.  Could explain some things.
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« Reply #469 on: June 14, 2005, 08:00:11 PM »

okay i heard that they saw a girl in a store making copies ofher passport and stuff this girl apperantly looks exactly like NH, this same exact girl was sited at a gas station, she had the same look and the same posture. this is all confuesing to me, but if in fact this girl is  her or looks like her why didnt anybody stop her asked questions? why is she copying her passport!!
please i know its stressfull for everybody but i think at this point  even if somebody looks like her STOP HER AND ASK QUESTIONS.again i dont know if this is at all true, i heard it from a source in aruba. to much "redu" (gossiping going on) it gets us all confuesed, please someone clarify this for me....................thank you
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« Reply #470 on: June 14, 2005, 08:00:16 PM »

The frustrating thing about this case is the lack of police clarification around those simple facts that would at least put some of the theories to bed.  I want to know.

1.  Did Joran make a call to Katdish and Deepshit after 2 am?
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« Reply #471 on: June 14, 2005, 08:00:16 PM »

I swear I am psychic, I really believe that the brothers did it, but, if they all met at Jorans pool, then he knew something.  Joran (IF HE DID IT) could not have done all this on his own.  If the condoms and panties are hers, then why would Jorna use more than one condom.  Ive never understood why a rapist wheres a condom?
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« Reply #472 on: June 14, 2005, 08:00:33 PM »

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where is everybody???




lost a little bit in here



can we find Nativelingo?
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« Reply #473 on: June 14, 2005, 08:00:39 PM »

Am I the only one who relates to this case? I have been glued to the television and the internet hoping that maybe  the unimaginable would happen and they would find her alive.  When I first started watching this story with my husband, he wondered why she would leave with people she didn't know. My immediate answer was that she is 18 and when you're 18 you don't think anything bad could happen to you.I feel for her because I can almost imagine her naive trust.....she was having fun, no thoughts of sex or being violated, much less being killed....this whole case hurts my heart!!!
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« Reply #474 on: June 14, 2005, 08:00:44 PM »

http://www.geocities.com/proud_college_republican/

thought this might interest some of you...it has lots of pictures and a very interesting pictures of a site where they were looking for evidence....the picture is obviously doctored from a picture of another investigation...  

 Confused hears the twilight zone theme music
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« Reply #475 on: June 14, 2005, 08:01:07 PM »

Oh yeah, Rob, I considered that earlier too.  That this guy wanted his "15 minutes" or even more sinister thoughts went through my head.  Someone framing Joran, different things like that.  AND I'M NOT SAYING I THINK JORAN WAS FRAMED...lol.  Just that with every twist and turn in this case it makes my brain spin out of control and gives me no more answers than I had before, just more possibilities to cloud my poor overworked brain.
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« Reply #476 on: June 14, 2005, 08:01:38 PM »

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okay i heard that they saw a girl in a store making copies ofher passport and stuff this girl apperantly looks exactly like NH, this same exact girl was sited at a gas station, she had the same look and the same posture. this is all confuesing to me, but if in fact this girl is  her or looks like her why didnt anybody stop her asked questions? why is she copying her passport!!
please i know its stressfull for everybody but i think at this point  even if somebody looks like her STOP HER AND ASK QUESTIONS.again i dont know if this is at all true, i heard it from a source in aruba. to much "redu" (gossiping going on) it gets us all confuesed, please someone clarify this for me....................thank you

The girl in the gas station already stepped forward.  So that was not Natalee
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« Reply #477 on: June 14, 2005, 08:01:55 PM »

sorry just got back..., been thinking heavily...didnt know some subjects were touched upon...
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« Reply #478 on: June 14, 2005, 08:02:01 PM »

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okay i heard that they saw a girl in a store making copies ofher passport and stuff this girl apperantly looks exactly like NH, this same exact girl was sited at a gas station, she had the same look and the same posture. this is all confuesing to me, but if in fact this girl is  her or looks like her why didnt anybody stop her asked questions? why is she copying her passport!!
please i know its stressfull for everybody but i think at this point  even if somebody looks like her STOP HER AND ASK QUESTIONS.again i dont know if this is at all true, i heard it from a source in aruba. to much "redu" (gossiping going on) it gets us all confuesed, please someone clarify this for me....................thank you


the girl in the gas station photo, according to arubagirl, was identified as a dutch girl traveling w/ a band or some type of entertainment group
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« Reply #479 on: June 14, 2005, 08:03:07 PM »

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heavyheart, let's please don't play the blame game here.  occasionally some of Natalee's friends have been on here and you never know who else may be lerking


I don't blame her friends.  Knowing how much this story has touched me, I cannot image what her friends are going through.  I just want to stress how important it is to look out for your own.

I want to make it clear that I in no way meant any disrespect to her friends.
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