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« Reply #2240 on: May 03, 2013, 07:14:57 PM »

I think that when the jury says guilty of pre meditated murder that Juan will break down in happy tears because he worked so hard for Travis and his family to get justice. He will be very emotional...he has been through an emotional time.


 

Juan Martinez gave his all for Travis!!

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« Reply #2241 on: May 03, 2013, 07:17:57 PM »



Made this last night. I was so impressed with Juan's closing statement. I believe he will bring Travis justice.
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« Reply #2242 on: May 03, 2013, 07:19:12 PM »



Made this last night. I was so impressed with Juan's closing statement. I believe he will bring Travis justice.

Love this!
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« Reply #2243 on: May 03, 2013, 07:25:28 PM »

May 3, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/bethkaras


 Beth Karas ‏@BethKaras 47m
Alternates are 2 women and a man. Final jury is 8 men and 4 women. #jodiarias

 Beth Karas ‏@BethKaras 52m
Closing arguments are finished! Judge is reading final instructions. First order of business: select a foreperson.... http://fb.me/RTqK6EEi

 Beth Karas ‏@BethKaras 59m
Martinez: Nothing indicates this was anything but a slaughter--a premeditated killing. #jodiarias

 Beth Karas ‏@BethKaras 1h
Martinez begins his rebuttal. #jodiarias
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« Reply #2244 on: May 03, 2013, 07:33:38 PM »

Jury going home for the day. Back on Monday morning
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« Reply #2245 on: May 03, 2013, 07:35:47 PM »

Does Monday count within a day since the jury got the case so late in the day? Since I voted that there would b a verdict within the day, Monday will b the day of the decision.
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« Reply #2246 on: May 03, 2013, 07:37:32 PM »



Made this last night. I was so impressed with Juan's closing statement. I believe he will bring Travis justice.

Love this!
I hope that if this jury is too stupid to see it & they dont come back with 1st degree that juan knows he did a fantastic job for travis & couldnt have done anything more.
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« Reply #2247 on: May 03, 2013, 07:55:37 PM »

Kirk Nurmi is so deceptive in his mission to afford Jodi credibility at the expense of Travis' character/reputation.  Why did he not play the full recording regarding the pigtails/tootie pops/pop rocks.

Way back in the trial proceedings Juan Martinez did challenge Jodi Arias encompassing her own words that implies mutual consent in regards to sexual role play fantasies ... sexual role play.

I hope the jury members took good notes ... have good memories.
 
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<snipped>
 
BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

ARIAS: Do you remember that time I came to visit you when I was still working in California and I fell asleep on your chair next to your bed and you just woke me up by pulling my pants off and (EXPLETIVE DELETED) my (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I remember that was hot.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

MARTINEZ: You said you woke me up by pulling my pants off and licking my (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

ARIAS: Yes.

MARTINEZ: You actually called him "Hottie Biscotti", correct?

ARIAS: Yes.

MARTINEZ: This is you sending him this text message, right?

ARIAS: Yes.

MARTINEZ: "If you`re a lucky boy and you promise to give me a good well-deserved spanking maybe you could give my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) a too much-needed pounding too. Kidding." Correct?

ARIAS: Yes.

MARTINEZ: And then you said, "Oh, yes. I want to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you like a dirty horny little schoolgirl," right?

ARIAS: Yes.

MARTINEZ: You did enjoy dressing up for him, right?

ARIAS: Yes.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/27/ddhln.01.html

 
Jodi Arias Said She Liked 'Debasing' Phone Sex Talk With Ex-Boyfriend
Feb. 12, 2013


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But the tape also shows Arias' willingness to please Alexander, agreeing with all of his suggestions for their sex life.

The pair discussed a pornographic-type movie that Alexander would like to shoot with Arias, coming up with storylines and costumes they each could wear. He tells her he wants to take pictures of her as ejaculates on her, and Arias tells Alexander he is "so creative" for coming up with ideas for what he wanted to be a "legitimate porn."

Arias describes on the recording how she liked wearing pig-tails while the pair had sex in a bathtub, to which Alexander responded that the pigtails were "so hot."

Eventually, Arias orgasms, and Alexander tells her, "You sound like a 12 year old having an orgasm, that's so hot, like little girl."

"You're bad, you make me feel so dirty," Arias responded.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-phone-sex-tape-shows-raunchy-relationship/story?id=18477130


Jodi Arias Grilled Over Pedophilia Charge, Tootsie Pop Fantasy
Feb. 21, 2013


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Martinez dwelled at one point about a journal entry where Arias wrote that she missed the Mormon baptism of her friend Lonnie because she was having kinky sex with Alexander. He drew attention to prior testimony that she and Alexander used Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks candy as sexual props.

"You're trying to get across (in the diary entry) that this involved a sexual liaison with Mr. Alexander right?" he asked. "And you're talking about Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks?"

"That happened also that night," Arias said.

"You were there, enjoying it, the Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks?" he asked again, prompting a smirk from Arias.

"I enjoyed his attention," Arias said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-prosecutor-grills-alleged-lies-jealosy/story?id=18558449
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« Reply #2248 on: May 03, 2013, 08:08:15 PM »

Does Monday count within a day since the jury got the case so late in the day? Since I voted that there would b a verdict within the day, Monday will b the day of the decision.

Considering jurors are not deliberating over the weekend ... if the verdict comes down on Monday ... it definitely counts as one day.  Cookie ... I am counting on it so I can get back to the life outside the computer room.

I hope deliberations do not drag on and on ... not even until Tuesday.

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« Reply #2249 on: May 03, 2013, 10:12:34 PM »

PROSECUTION - CLOSING ARGUMENTS

02/05/2013

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 55 - Jury Instructions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BA-MeyqIlw

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 55 - Part 1 (Prosecution Closing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rElcdNOwuwI

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 55 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XJsW-_hmFY

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 55 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qizSHE-ywO8


DEFENCE CLOSING ARGUMENTS

03/05/2013

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 56 - Part 1 (Defense Closing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BXsJl-1vD8

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 56 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOiZp2Sw010

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 56 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0xuwKz0USs


PROSECUTION REBUTTAL

03/05/2013

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 56 - Part 4 (Rebuttal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPJl-xXZ2Q
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« Reply #2250 on: May 03, 2013, 11:17:39 PM »

Does Monday count within a day since the jury got the case so late in the day? Since I voted that there would b a verdict within the day, Monday will b the day of the decision.

I voted the same, Cookie.

I think Monday verdict would count as within one day.

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« Reply #2251 on: May 04, 2013, 12:04:50 AM »

If we get a verdict on Monday, it's within one day in my book!   

Life interrupted my ability to listen to the end of Nurmi and Juan's rebuttal so I'm off to catch up!

8 men and 4 women make up the jury (Thank you, Muffy!). Hmmmmm....... not the make-up I would have preferred. I think women see through women better than men do. It sounds sexist but I do think that many women have a greater ability to act and react with emotion, while many men hang on to primary logic longer. It's part of what makes us far more intuitive than men. As I was listening to Nurmi, I must say, he's right, I think, on one point. I would agree that Jodi was absolutely enraged (he said "snapped). I just don't concede that "snapped" is inconsistent with "premeditated" in this case. I have no doubt that Jodi desperately wanted Travis to change his mind about the Cancun trip and that she would have preferred that. When he said "no", she had already made a plan and had prepared for it. I have no problem seeing Jodi absolutely loosing it at that answer.
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« Reply #2252 on: May 04, 2013, 12:30:54 AM »

For anyone who missed today's closing arguments. It begins with Nurmi up and I've noted where Juan's rebuttal begins.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIEIbAkKrw

Part 2:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5AzwmbAXN4

Part 3:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cayQWAHqvPg

Part 4:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WIrr5mE9BQ

Part 5:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z0CdDTmaaU

Part 6:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqbpLAnEsa4

Part 7:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dRmLiyH0wI

Part 8:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVVQuaPW7mw  (cell phone goes off)

Part 9:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ntCzKX4o3s

Part 10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qB7Yzn-4YA

Part 11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIEIbAkKrw

Part 12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUZMI3c29Tw

Part 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iduhe8btxh4

Part 14: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNcTt1rn_Q  (Begins Juan's rebuttal)

Part 15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJaf43txhoI

Part 16: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvensjs8Ft0

Part 17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9X_MYHXWwE

Part 18: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as9rvgCnePg

Part 19: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wms1B8r-EOk

Part 20: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=237jn-59hjA  (Judge's instructions to the jury)
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« Reply #2253 on: May 04, 2013, 02:16:43 AM »

Well........... I've heard Juan's rebuttal!   

I think his safety net on premeditation is brilliant. I love that he has inserted into the case the way Jodi killed Travis 3 times. After the first "killing", the other two would qualify for premeditated murder. That's a pretty convincing argument. Personally, I think all the other evidence is convincing as well, but still, Jodi over-killed Travis and I'd say Juan over-proved premeditation.
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« Reply #2254 on: May 04, 2013, 02:25:13 AM »

I can't help but wonder if the jury not being sequestered will impact any of them. IF it does have an impact, my bet is that it would push someone toward the State's case. You just know that locally this is big news and being covered everywhere you look.

If I were the lawyer for the State and knew I was going to have 8 men and 4 women on the jury, I think I would have shown the movie "Fatal Attraction" instead of giving a closing argument. I might have quoted Glenn Close at the very end and attributed it to Jodi: "I will not be IGNORED!"

I'm hoping the jury, in deliberations, will be able to come up with a scenario that fits.

Jodi wasn't happy during Juan's rebuttal and that makes me happy!!   
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« Reply #2255 on: May 04, 2013, 02:46:12 AM »

Well........... I've heard Juan's rebuttal!   

I think his safety net on premeditation is brilliant. I love that he has inserted into the case the way Jodi killed Travis 3 times. After the first "killing", the other two would qualify for premeditated murder. That's a pretty convincing argument. Personally, I think all the other evidence is convincing as well, but still, Jodi over-killed Travis and I'd say Juan over-proved premeditation.

I think Juan was very clear on her over kill. Like he said any one of them would kill him. And doing all three showed she was not fighting him because she was afraid for her life. She wanted him dead. In Juan's rebuttal he said yes she left tracks on her trip every where but Arizona. Referring to Nurmi saying if she was planning on killing Travis and planned all the stuff the state said why did she leave a trial. Golly gee her phone died right when she got into Arizona and wow as soon as she was out of Arizona she found her charger no gas was bought in Arizona.
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« Reply #2256 on: May 04, 2013, 02:56:32 AM »

Well........... I've heard Juan's rebuttal!   

I think his safety net on premeditation is brilliant. I love that he has inserted into the case the way Jodi killed Travis 3 times. After the first "killing", the other two would qualify for premeditated murder. That's a pretty convincing argument. Personally, I think all the other evidence is convincing as well, but still, Jodi over-killed Travis and I'd say Juan over-proved premeditation.

I think Juan was very clear on her over kill. Like he said any one of them would kill him. And doing all three showed she was not fighting him because she was afraid for her life. She wanted him dead. In Juan's rebuttal he said yes she left tracks on her trip every where but Arizona. Referring to Nurmi saying if she was planning on killing Travis and planned all the stuff the state said why did she leave a trial. Golly gee her phone died right when she got into Arizona and wow as soon as she was out of Arizona she found her charger no gas was bought in Arizona.

Exactly, GE. She didn't fill up her car or gas cans in Arizona either. She didn't use that card once...for anything...in the State. The trail she did leave purposefully steered away from Arizona.
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« Reply #2257 on: May 04, 2013, 12:15:31 PM »

I can't help but wonder if the jury not being sequestered will impact any of them. IF it does have an impact, my bet is that it would push someone toward the State's case. You just know that locally this is big news and being covered everywhere you look.

If I were the lawyer for the State and knew I was going to have 8 men and 4 women on the jury, I think I would have shown the movie "Fatal Attraction" instead of giving a closing argument. I might have quoted Glenn Close at the very end and attributed it to Jodi: "I will not be IGNORED!"

I'm hoping the jury, in deliberations, will be able to come up with a scenario that fits.

Jodi wasn't happy during Juan's rebuttal and that makes me happy!!   
I swear u would think i had a personal interest in this case. I am a nervous wreck. I have been trying to research things for insight like crazy. Researched whether men or women are more likely to convict, make up of previous juries in high profile cases, deliberation times for high profile cases, interviews with scott peterson jurors.......etc. Im making myself crazy here. I dont know how i feel about the 8 men & 4 women. Will men be more sympathetic to her because shes an "attractive" (not imo) woman? Will they understand travis' taking opportunities sexually with this rare type of girl for him who was willing to be freaky? I just dont know. This abuse CRAP is the only thing i worry about. Will they believe it with no proof? So many possibilities. If it werent for the casey anthony verdict i might have more faith in the intelligence of the average person. I cant see how they could disregard all of her lies. All the obvious planning for that little detour speaks volumes to me. The absolute gruesome slaughter that took place. How can they look at the autopsy photos & not want to punish her as harsh as they could. That had to be extreme suffering. My heart bleeds for his family waiting for this verdict  i pray god gives them some solace & closure in seeing the monster responsible for this at least life without parole. I need my god to show me that the evil here on earth wont always go unpunished in this life. I know she will meet her maker someday but i need somr sign right now that god is instilling his love into the people who have the tools right now to punish the evil. Im sorry if this sounds crazy & over the top but a am so tired of evil people being turned into celebrities, going unpunished & profiting off of their crimes. I gaurantee this witch will try to profit in any way she can if she is acquitted & travis' family will never know peace. Please god, allow these jurors to ser clearly what u already know & render a verdict that speaks the truth.
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« Reply #2258 on: May 04, 2013, 12:55:56 PM »

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1305/03/ijvm.01.html
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Jodi Arias Case Goes to the Jury
Aired May 3, 2013 - 19:00   ET


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1305/03/ng.01.html
NANCY GRACE
Arias Murder Case Goes to the Jury
Aired May 3, 2013 - 20:00   ET


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1305/03/ddhln.01.html
DR. DREW
Jodi Arias Murder Case
Aired May 3, 2013 - 21:00   ET
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« Reply #2259 on: May 04, 2013, 03:14:26 PM »

I can't help but wonder if the jury not being sequestered will impact any of them. IF it does have an impact, my bet is that it would push someone toward the State's case. You just know that locally this is big news and being covered everywhere you look.

If I were the lawyer for the State and knew I was going to have 8 men and 4 women on the jury, I think I would have shown the movie "Fatal Attraction" instead of giving a closing argument. I might have quoted Glenn Close at the very end and attributed it to Jodi: "I will not be IGNORED!"

I'm hoping the jury, in deliberations, will be able to come up with a scenario that fits.

Jodi wasn't happy during Juan's rebuttal and that makes me happy!!   
I swear u would think i had a personal interest in this case. I am a nervous wreck. I have been trying to research things for insight like crazy. Researched whether men or women are more likely to convict, make up of previous juries in high profile cases, deliberation times for high profile cases, interviews with scott peterson jurors.......etc. Im making myself crazy here. I dont know how i feel about the 8 men & 4 women. Will men be more sympathetic to her because shes an "attractive" (not imo) woman? Will they understand travis' taking opportunities sexually with this rare type of girl for him who was willing to be freaky? I just dont know. This abuse CRAP is the only thing i worry about. Will they believe it with no proof? So many possibilities. If it werent for the casey anthony verdict i might have more faith in the intelligence of the average person. I cant see how they could disregard all of her lies. All the obvious planning for that little detour speaks volumes to me. The absolute gruesome slaughter that took place. How can they look at the autopsy photos & not want to punish her as harsh as they could. That had to be extreme suffering. My heart bleeds for his family waiting for this verdict  i pray god gives them some solace & closure in seeing the monster responsible for this at least life without parole. I need my god to show me that the evil here on earth wont always go unpunished in this life. I know she will meet her maker someday but i need somr sign right now that god is instilling his love into the people who have the tools right now to punish the evil. Im sorry if this sounds crazy & over the top but a am so tired of evil people being turned into celebrities, going unpunished & profiting off of their crimes. I gaurantee this witch will try to profit in any way she can if she is acquitted & travis' family will never know peace. Please god, allow these jurors to ser clearly what u already know & render a verdict that speaks the truth.

Beautifully said, kcrn! I couldn't agree more!
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