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« Reply #3980 on: June 14, 2013, 10:37:24 AM »

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/13/ijvm.01.html
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Prosecution Will Go Forward with New Jodi Arias Punishment Phase; Jodi`s Childhood Friend Speaks Out
Aired June 13, 2013 - 19:00   ET


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/13/ddhln.01.html
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Trust Fund Kid on Trial; What`s At Stake In Trial?
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(I don't see a Nancy Grace transcript for last night.  If CNN puts it up, I'll post the link here)

Thanks Miz Bee....I sent you some pictures via email...I hope it was the correct email addy. If you don't get them please let me know. 
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« Reply #3981 on: June 14, 2013, 10:45:01 AM »



I believe that the State needs to put some kind of limit on the amount that these specialist can charge. Most businesses have
some kind of checks and balances and this case seems to have people sucking the $$$ outta the system.


Since this was JSS's first DP trial it seems like she was bending over backwards to ensure there were no actions for appeals. I don't think for a moment she thought there would be a hung jury. Hopefully this time around she will be tougher and no concerned about appeal issues.

That gives me concern! No way should she be given parole! 25 years institutionalized may make her more manipulative,conning and way more of a danger to society. I can't get over her stealing other inmates mail! Sorry to beat a dead horse but it just boggles my mind! Is she stealing for the soul purpose of stealing and getting away with it or is she using intimidation. She's doing things someone would do with more years behind bars. She began almost immediately to break rules and cross boundaries.not that she has any to began with! Can you imagine how much property that didnt belong to her she took, including money! Lets not forget the engagement ring she stole from Travis.
I think mm and Daryl feared her to some extent! Daryl seemed like a fragile man very easy to manipulate more so than mm.

loca, I really can't see JSS giving her anything less than LWOP.  I agree about Darryl...but I also think she blackmailed him, just as she tried to do to Travis. And he had a child to protect. mm sure didn't come to her defense did he?  I hope this time around JM is able to stress the magazine message...showing she was again trying to make someone lie for her. 


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I agree and hope JM can use those magazines and other stuff against her. She is extremely evil! Lol I think Matt hid away and washed his hands of her.

I also hope this time around JSS will allow Juan to expose all the stalking and hacking into his emails and facebook and sending emails ....there was so much the jury DIDN'T get to hear. Like the waitress how worked with her and how she acted towards the male patrons, the time she either hit or kick the wall....the only recent friend was Leslie Udy...why?  Also I would love to see the state have that finger ex-rayed....the real Doctor in my family said it looks more like a tendon was cut, as opposed to a break. I believe MM was the person who the secret codes were meant for. I really thought he was going to testify (I thought the state would give him immunity from prosecution) There are so many things I wished had been brought in. Hopefully this time around JSS will not be so liberal in her limiting evidence.
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« Reply #3982 on: June 14, 2013, 11:43:31 AM »


Hi SunnyinTX

I agree with you but that was not the perspective of the jury foreman.

Bill Zervakos revealed three of the mitigating factors presented by the defense that influenced his decision against the death penalty in the sentencing phase.

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Hi Janet....I realize you are going on what he SAID were the mitigating factors that he felt was valid.....HOWEVER, it's the many other things he said that leads me to believe he was using those as an excuse...plain and simple. He couldn't admit he simply couldn't give her the DP.

Here's a couple of things I kept.....and what leads me to believe he flat out lied.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jodi-arias-jury-foreman-tells-gma-how-they-reached-verdict-and-then-didnt/

in this first interview he says when he first saw this YOUNG WOMAN and the brutality of the crime it was difficult to divert himself from the emotional part of it.

and how the prosecutor was with her....it was very hard...he also said, but not in this interview, that he didn't like that HE thought JM talked down to them.

he believes she was emotionally and verbally abused by Travis.....

on another interview (I didn't keep the video) he says there was a ja before June 4th and a video after June 4th. before she was a normal young woman (how did he know that? And after why would he not expect her to lie? Not expect her to try to cover it up?

He says the jury didn't know how hated she was...really??

he says the GIRL was crucified by public opinion but of course the jury didn't know that...really???

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/25/arias-trial-jury-foreman-says-death-decision-unfair-for-12-average-people-who/

IMO these are a couple of the telling statements he made and one of the reason I truly believe he would never have given her the DP
 

In an interview Friday, jury foreman William Zervakos provided a glimpse into the private deliberations, describing four women and eight men who struggled with the question: How heinous of a killing deserves a similar fate?
"The system we think is flawed in that sense because this was not a case of a Jeffrey Dahmer or Charles Manson," Zervakos told The Associated Press.
"It was a brutal no-win situation. ... I think that's kind of unfair," the 69-year-old added. "We're not lawyers. We can't interpret the law. We're mere mortals. And I will tell you I've never felt more mere as a mortal than I felt for the last five months."


 
Zervakos declined to discuss his thoughts or those of other jurors on whether Arias should have been sentenced to death or life. But he said he was torn between her two personas: a killer and an average young woman struggling through life.
"You heard (prosecutor Juan) Martinez say she was only 27. ... She's old enough that she should have known better," Zervakos said. "I didn't look at it that way. I'm looking at 27 years of an absolutely normal everyday young woman that was living a life that was perfectly normal. Then something changed the trajectory of her life after meeting Travis Alexander, and it spiraled downhill from there." I really believe he thinks Travis changed ja....makes my head spin.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/25/arias-trial-jury-foreman-says-death-decision-unfair-for-12-average-people-who/#ixzz2WCTzBSdy


http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/6389-jodi-ariass-juror-opens-up-about-trial
Zevakos said, She was obviously lying about things and you know what happens when you tell a lie, you have to tell another lie and another lie. The longer she was on the stand the worse it was for her in that case.
But the foreman said he did believe her claims that Travis Alexander abused her.
"I do believe that she was emotionally and verbally abused." Said Zevakos  but offered no proof to back this up. ANd he determined this through her lies and a couple texts messages??

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Zevakos recalled, I had vowed that I wasn't going to look at her but I did and seeing her face when that verdict was read, I will remember forever."

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Zevakos replied, Yeah, I'd really like to talk to Jodi. But I'd like to ask her  the questions that everybody wants to ask her.  What really happened?"
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Thanks SunnyinTX

You are right.  It could be that the Zevakos cited mitigating factors for his decision when in actuality he found himself in a position where he was morally unable to render a vote for the death penalty.  If this was the case ... I believe he should have dismissed himself and ... allowed an alternative juror to take his place.

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« Reply #3983 on: June 14, 2013, 12:24:38 PM »

I think that if a female or a male who was not attracted to the defendant was the jury foreman in this case and in the Casey Anthony case, we would have seen a different outcome in both cases. These idiots think with their little heads IMO!
I am thankful that this jury did vote her guilty though.
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« Reply #3984 on: June 14, 2013, 12:33:39 PM »

I think that if a female or a male who was not attracted to the defendant was the jury foreman in this case and in the Casey Anthony case, we would have seen a different outcome in both cases. These idiots think with their little heads IMO!
I am thankful that this jury did vote her guilty though.

Just to add to this, it appears that the jury foreman holds a powerful position and that others will follow their lead if in doubt...
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« Reply #3985 on: June 14, 2013, 12:42:24 PM »


Jury foreman: Jodi Arias shouldn't die 'for being stupid'
Wed June 12, 2013


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Bill Zervakos was juror No. 18 during the nearly six-month trial. He says he voted against the death penalty. The jury was split 8-4 on the decision to give Jodi Arias life or death. Zervakos is the first of the four who voted for a life sentence to speak publicly about his decision.

Zervakos says there were multiple mitigating factors, including Arias' age, the fact that she had no criminal history and her "dysfunctional" family, which led him to vote the way he did.

Most notably, as he expressed during an interview with "Good Morning America" the day after the judge declared a mistrial, he firmly believes Arias was abused. "All of the testimony that I listened to -- and that I actually heard as well as read  I do believe he verbally and mentally abused her," Zervakos said

Zervakos gave more reasons why he voted against the death penalty. "You dont put people to death for being stupid. You dont put people to death for lying. So I had to weigh all these things."

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/12/jury-foreman-says-he-voted-life-arias

MITIGATING FACTORS

1. Defendant was 27 years old at the time of the offense.
2. Defendant has no prior criminal history.

3. Defendant was a good friend.
4. Defendant lacked support from her family.
5. Defendant suffered abuse and neglect as a child and as an adult.
6. Defendant tried to make the best of her life.
7. Defendant consistently tried to improve herself.
8. Defendant is a talented artist.


MITIGATING FACTORS FOR CAUSE OF THE DEATH PENALTY

1. She was growing illegal drugs at her parents home.
2. She kicked her mother and the mother stated to Det. Flores Jodi would not speak to her for weeks or allow her to visit
3. She was of the age that a reasonable adult knows better.
4. She moved back to California so if there was abuse as she alleges, she was far away.
5. She lied to the police about who murdered Travis.
6. She was old enough to plot and plan a calculated murder of another human being.
7. She lied to the jury.
8. While in custody, during the trial, she was tweeting disingenuous defamatory tweets to public figures.
10. While incarcerated she has been in trouble for fighting, hiding paraphernalia in her cell etc.
11. She said to Detective Flores and publically on television, "I would want the death penalty"!



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« Reply #3986 on: June 14, 2013, 12:45:40 PM »

Lol she should have taken that large bling bling cross and performed at exorcism at the defence table


 
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« Reply #3987 on: June 14, 2013, 12:48:59 PM »

I think that if a female or a male who was not attracted to the defendant was the jury foreman in this case and in the Casey Anthony case, we would have seen a different outcome in both cases. These idiots think with their little heads IMO!
I am thankful that this jury did vote her guilty though.

The fact that this juror who was selected as the foreman is confessing he found her attractive, but he voted her
guilty of the premeditated crime demonstrates he is against the death penalty - nothing more. The rest of his
reasoning publically for not voting the death penalty is just his way to justify his bias is all.
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« Reply #3988 on: June 14, 2013, 12:53:37 PM »

Jodi Arias' attorneys seek delay of second penalty phase
Attorneys for Jodi Arias have asked an Arizona judge to delay until next year a retrial of the penalty phase in her case to allow the convicted murderer time to gather witnesses to testify on her behalf.
In a motion filed this week, they are seeking a new trial date for January.
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57589336-504083/jodi-arias-attorneys-seek-delay-of-second-penalty-phase/

SHE NEEDS MORE TIME TO PREPARE HER POWER POINT

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« Reply #3989 on: June 14, 2013, 01:22:02 PM »



I contend that when all 12 jurors deemed Jodi Arias guilty of premeditated murder ... there should have been no aggravating factors or mitigating factors taken into consideration that may spare her from the death penalty.

Why should ANYBODY who premeditates the death of another escape the ultimate penalty ... be afforded mercy ... even if he/she administered sleeping pills in a beverage rather than brutally stabbing and shooting his/her victim?

Why should mitigating factors apply ... mercy afforded ... to ANYBODY who premeditates the death of another?

The scales of justice must balance.  Premeditation implies the victim was shown no mercy.  Dead is dead!

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« Reply #3990 on: June 14, 2013, 01:54:30 PM »

Jodi Arias' attorneys seek delay of second penalty phase
Attorneys for Jodi Arias have asked an Arizona judge to delay until next year a retrial of the penalty phase in her case to allow the convicted murderer time to gather witnesses to testify on her behalf.
In a motion filed this week, they are seeking a new trial date for January.
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57589336-504083/jodi-arias-attorneys-seek-delay-of-second-penalty-phase/

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January!!!

Could it be that in the upcoming sentencing phase ... in another attempt to avoid the death penalty ... witnesses will be called upon to support a new defense mitigating factor the implies that Jodi Arias may not have been mentally competent when she murdered Travis Alexander?

Will her parents finally testify?  Think about it.  Many of Travis' supporters are on record stating that Jodi was ... on so many levels ... "strange".  The prosecution's own expert witness Janeen DeMarte testified that Jodi had borderline personality disorder which may have caused her to "act out of desperation".

The problem for the defense?  None the defense witnesses who testified ... defense experts included ... implied Jodi was not mentally competent.

Janet

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Arias Parents in Police Interrogation
Aired April 29, 2013 - 20:00   ET


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GRACE: Jodi Arias claims she was the one on the wrong end of an abusive relationship. But it was Travis Alexander that ended up dead, stabbed and shot by Arias. Even her own parents could see Jodi Arias had problems and would, as they say, freak out. ....
 
excerpt:

WILLIAM ARIAS: She`s a strange person because (INAUDIBLE) after she left the house, you know, just kind of (INAUDIBLE) strange. You know, she was really friendly. Sometimes she`ll call and real sweet, and 10 minutes later, she`ll call in a rage, you know, just screaming at my wife. She did that for (INAUDIBLE) for the last year-and-a-half, she was doing that a lot.

WILLIAM ARIAS: She was upset, and she treated my wife like crap.  I mean, verbally abusive on the phone with her.

SANDRA ARIAS, MOTHER: Jodi has mental problems. Jodi would freak out all the time.

SANDRA ARIAS: Because (INAUDIBLE) one of the things when she was here (INAUDIBLE) I called (INAUDIBLE) she`s a member of the Mormon church, and I called the bishop here and wanted to know if there`s any way he could find out where she was going down there to the church because I wanted to talk to him and see if he could talk to Jodi and find out what`s going on because, like I said, she would just totally flip out on me.

SANDRA ARIAS: She did. And I don`t -- I don`t know. I told her one day, I said, You need some help, Jodi. I said, You`ve got this fantasy in your head that you had a rotten childhood and that we searched your room all the time and we did all this stuff, and we didn`t. And you need some help because that didn`t happen.

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« Reply #3991 on: June 14, 2013, 01:55:37 PM »


Source: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/wtf-fatigue-jodi-arias/
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« Reply #3992 on: June 14, 2013, 01:57:36 PM »


Jodi is not mental - she is evil[/]b
Source: http://www.hlntv.com/clusters/jodi-arias
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Source: http://www.news.com.au/world-news/verdict-reached-in-jodi-arias-trial/story-fndir2ev-1226637989181
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« Reply #3994 on: June 14, 2013, 01:59:40 PM »



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Aired April 29, 2013 - 20:00   ET


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SANDRA ARIAS: And her friend called me one night, and he said he even called some hotline to ask them questions about what she was doing. And they said sounds like she really needs some help. But she wouldn`t do anything. So you know, I didn`t really bring it up to her. I thought if I brought up her here, where we could take care of her.

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« Reply #3995 on: June 14, 2013, 02:01:13 PM »


Jodi is not mental - she is evil[/]b
Source: http://www.hlntv.com/clusters/jodi-arias

 
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« Reply #3996 on: June 14, 2013, 02:03:22 PM »


Trying to show her store bought boobs? Lol
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« Reply #3997 on: June 14, 2013, 02:05:15 PM »

I think that if a female or a male who was not attracted to the defendant was the jury foreman in this case and in the Casey Anthony case, we would have seen a different outcome in both cases. These idiots think with their little heads IMO!
I am thankful that this jury did vote her guilty though.

Just to add to this, it appears that the jury foreman holds a powerful position and that others will follow their lead if in doubt...

 
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« Reply #3998 on: June 14, 2013, 02:06:52 PM »

Jodi Arias' attorneys seek delay of second penalty phase
Attorneys for Jodi Arias have asked an Arizona judge to delay until next year a retrial of the penalty phase in her case to allow the convicted murderer time to gather witnesses to testify on her behalf.
In a motion filed this week, they are seeking a new trial date for January.
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57589336-504083/jodi-arias-attorneys-seek-delay-of-second-penalty-phase/

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January!!!

Could it be that in the upcoming sentencing phase ... in another attempt to avoid the death penalty ... witnesses will be called upon to support a new defense mitigating factor the implies that Jodi Arias may not have been mentally competent when she murdered Travis Alexander?

Will her parents finally testify?  Think about it.  Many of Travis' supporters are on record stating that Jodi was ... on so many levels ... "strange".  The prosecution's own expert witness Janeen DeMarte testified that Jodi had borderline personality disorder which may have caused her to "act out of desperation".

The problem for the defense?  None the defense witnesses who testified ... defense experts included ... implied Jodi was not mentally competent.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
Arias Parents in Police Interrogation
Aired April 29, 2013 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: Jodi Arias claims she was the one on the wrong end of an abusive relationship. But it was Travis Alexander that ended up dead, stabbed and shot by Arias. Even her own parents could see Jodi Arias had problems and would, as they say, freak out. ....
 
excerpt:

WILLIAM ARIAS: She`s a strange person because (INAUDIBLE) after she left the house, you know, just kind of (INAUDIBLE) strange. You know, she was really friendly. Sometimes she`ll call and real sweet, and 10 minutes later, she`ll call in a rage, you know, just screaming at my wife. She did that for (INAUDIBLE) for the last year-and-a-half, she was doing that a lot.

WILLIAM ARIAS: She was upset, and she treated my wife like crap.  I mean, verbally abusive on the phone with her.

SANDRA ARIAS, MOTHER: Jodi has mental problems. Jodi would freak out all the time.

SANDRA ARIAS: Because (INAUDIBLE) one of the things when she was here (INAUDIBLE) I called (INAUDIBLE) she`s a member of the Mormon church, and I called the bishop here and wanted to know if there`s any way he could find out where she was going down there to the church because I wanted to talk to him and see if he could talk to Jodi and find out what`s going on because, like I said, she would just totally flip out on me.

SANDRA ARIAS: She did. And I don`t -- I don`t know. I told her one day, I said, You need some help, Jodi. I said, You`ve got this fantasy in your head that you had a rotten childhood and that we searched your room all the time and we did all this stuff, and we didn`t. And you need some help because that didn`t happen.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1304/29/ng.01.html


Geez where are they going to find any friends to speak on her behalf! I guess they have the option of hiring and sobering up a few hungry homeless people to speak for her, trading their grocery cart for a nice change of clothes.

I don't trust them further than I can throw them.
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« Reply #3999 on: June 14, 2013, 02:09:34 PM »


Thanks SunnyinTX

You are right.  It could be that the Zevakos cited mitigating factors for his decision when in actuality he found himself in a position where he was morally unable to render a vote for the death penalty.  If this was the case ... I believe he should have dismissed himself and ... allowed an alternative juror to take his place.

Janet


Janet, I agree....but from what I have seen and heard from and about this guy no way would he have excused himself. He is enjoying his numerous 15 minutes of fame. He is now going to be Dr. Drew on Monday.
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