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« Reply #460 on: March 04, 2013, 04:49:55 PM »


Personally i dont think he was in on the plan. I think she either showed up unannounced or she called him on the road to see if she could come by. She had much bigger plans than just sex though, unfortunately for him. She was probably what is otherwise known as a booty call for him. Skanks like her udually end up being nothing more than a booty call.


I agree kcrn.

The gun that was reported stolen from Jodi Arias' grandparents one week prior to the murder ... the requested inconspicuous rental vehicle ... the borrowed gas cans and ... the unside down licence plate convince me there was a plan prior to the road trip to make a detour with the intention of ending Travis Alexander's life.  Cell phone activity should provide investigators with the truth regarding when Travis was made aware of Jodi's visit.

The involvement of Matthew McCartney?  Time will reveal the truth but ... I believe along with Monkey King that a plea deal may be forthcoming.

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Thedy are not going to plea this out and lose the Death Penalty!  What I've seen thus far prove everything needed to get 1st degree with special circumstances.  Pretty cut and dry...
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« Reply #461 on: March 04, 2013, 05:07:58 PM »


Personally i dont think he was in on the plan. I think she either showed up unannounced or she called him on the road to see if she could come by. She had much bigger plans than just sex though, unfortunately for him. She was probably what is otherwise known as a booty call for him. Skanks like her udually end up being nothing more than a booty call.


I agree kcrn.

The gun that was reported stolen from Jodi Arias' grandparents one week prior to the murder ... the requested inconspicuous rental vehicle ... the borrowed gas cans and ... the unside down licence plate convince me there was a plan prior to the road trip to make a detour with the intention of ending Travis Alexander's life.  Cell phone activity should provide investigators with the truth regarding when Travis was made aware of Jodi's visit.

The involvement of Matthew McCartney?  Time will reveal the truth but ... I believe along with Monkey King that a plea deal may be forthcoming.

Janet

 

Thedy are not going to plea this out and lose the Death Penalty!  What I've seen thus far prove everything needed to get 1st degree with special circumstances.  Pretty cut and dry...

that is what I thought about the Casey Anthony trial and looked what happened...I have no faith anymore after that fiasco...
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« Reply #462 on: March 04, 2013, 05:08:23 PM »


Personally i dont think he was in on the plan. I think she either showed up unannounced or she called him on the road to see if she could come by. She had much bigger plans than just sex though, unfortunately for him. She was probably what is otherwise known as a booty call for him. Skanks like her udually end up being nothing more than a booty call.


I agree kcrn.

The gun that was reported stolen from Jodi Arias' grandparents one week prior to the murder ... the requested inconspicuous rental vehicle ... the borrowed gas cans and ... the unside down licence plate convince me there was a plan prior to the road trip to make a detour with the intention of ending Travis Alexander's life.  Cell phone activity should provide investigators with the truth regarding when Travis was made aware of Jodi's visit.

The involvement of Matthew McCartney?  Time will reveal the truth but ... I believe along with Monkey King that a plea deal may be forthcoming.

Janet

 

Thedy are not going to plea this out and lose the Death Penalty!  What I've seen thus far prove everything needed to get 1st degree with special circumstances.  Pretty cut and dry...
I think its cut & dry too but after those idiots on the casey anthony jury came back with a not guilty im afraid to put any faith in people having general common sense. If this girl walks i will be sick. All these cases do is give people the ok to murder because with the right bullcrap thrown in there by a scumbag defense attorney they can confuse some simple minded jurors.
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« Reply #463 on: March 04, 2013, 05:17:02 PM »

When you consider Jodi Arias' previous relationship ... she was the agressor or at the very least a willing participant of Travis Alexander.  IMO

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Jodi Arias Borrowed Gas Cans Day Before Killing Travis Alexander, Ex-Beau Says
Jan. 29, 2013


In cross examination, prosecutors also forced Arias' former live-in boyfriend Darryl Brewer to describe his sex life with Arias as "pretty aggressive."

Brewer, 52, dated Arias for four years and shared a home with her in California for two years.

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Arias also converted to Mormonism while living with Brewer, telling him that he could no longer curse and she would no longer have sex with him because she was saving herself for marriage.

The pair had previously had an "enthusiastic" and "aggressive" sex life, Brewer admitted to prosecutors. They had engaged in anal sex, Arias had taken nude photos of Brewer, and Arias had purchased breast implants in 2006, he testified.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-borrowed-gas-cans-day-killing-travis/story?id=18345450
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« Reply #464 on: March 04, 2013, 05:25:01 PM »

I do not have a clue who former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods is but ... I hope he is right.

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Jodi Arias trial live video: Arias to resume testimony after cross-examination
March 4, 2013


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Former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods told ABC15 that the trial is "over" after watching her testimony Thursday.

"I think she may have succeeded in talking herself into the death penalty," Woods said. "Her story makes no sense. It doesn't match forensics. It doesn't match common sense. It's a preposterous story."

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« Reply #465 on: March 04, 2013, 05:39:25 PM »

In the cross-examination stage ... the responses of Jodi Arias to Travis Alexander's recorded perverted words were played for the jury ... responses that implied she was a willing participant.

Today ... the judge is allowed the defense to rebut with only segments of Travis' words taken out of context.  Why?
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« Reply #466 on: March 04, 2013, 05:46:19 PM »

In the cross-examination stage ... the responses of Jodi Arias to Travis Alexander's recorded perverted words were played for the jury ... responses that implied she was a willing participant.

Today ... the judge is allowed the defense to rebut with only segments of Travis' words taken out of context.  Why?


Yes she was a she was a willing participant but he was a pervert and wanted her to be a 12 year old girl so now what?

I'm telling you they are NOT going to give her DEATH
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« Reply #467 on: March 04, 2013, 05:47:32 PM »

In the cross-examination stage ... the responses of Jodi Arias to Travis Alexander's recorded perverted words were played for the jury ... responses that implied she was a willing participant.

Today ... the judge is allowed the defense to rebut with only segments of Travis' words taken out of context.  Why?


I wondered the same thing... it's misconstruing the evidence and taking it out of context. 

Sadly, it's also reflective that the prosecution could have done a better job in using visuals to support their case.
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« Reply #468 on: March 04, 2013, 05:54:29 PM »

When the pigtails/little boys' underwear/Tootsie Pops/Pop Rocks are considered ... I believe the tapes played in context reveal there were sick sexual fantasies that both Travis and Jodi shared.  Think about.  NOTHING incriminating was taken from Travis' hard drive.

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Jodi Arias Said She Liked 'Debasing' Phone Sex Talk With Ex-Boyfriend
Feb. 12, 2013


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Arias describes on the recording how she liked wearing pig-tails while the pair had sex in a bathtub, to which Alexander responded that the pigtails were "so hot."

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-phone-sex-tape-shows-raunchy-relationship/story?id=18477130
 
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« Reply #469 on: March 04, 2013, 05:59:52 PM »

In the cross-examination stage ... the responses of Jodi Arias to Travis Alexander's recorded perverted words were played for the jury ... responses that implied she was a willing participant.

Today ... the judge is allowed the defense to rebut with only segments of Travis' words taken out of context.  Why?


Yes she was a she was a willing participant but he was a pervert and wanted her to be a 12 year old girl so now what?

I'm telling you they are NOT going to give her DEATH

Blonde, maybe Jodi introduced him to the whole 'sex play' and perverted things making him feel safe to go there, a place he would never have gone had he not met Jodi.

We can't hear the tape but he has not been accused of wanting to forcibly have sex with anyone and there is no proof he liked little boys.  Jodi kept coming back, again and again and again, even after he made it clear he did not want to be with her.  IMO he no longer wanted to feed the perversions she enticed him with and what his relationship with her symbolized.  Travis was disgusted with himself and he was disgusted with Jodi.

He proved by his life that he was a good person, respected, responsible, and in the midst of a moral dilemma with this woman and he chose to remove the problem because he wanted a respectable wife and a happy family life.  Jodi refused to let Travis alone.

I do agree that allowing the defense to place this into evidence may in fact prevent the death penalty.  Smearing the victim does work.
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« Reply #470 on: March 04, 2013, 06:19:15 PM »



Premeditation?

The gun that was reported stolen from Jodi Arias' grandparents one week prior to the murder ... the requested inconspicuous rental vehicle ... the borrowed gas cans and ... the missing and unside down licence plate convince me there was a plan prior to the road trip to make a detour with the intention of ending Travis Alexander's life.

Not one witness has come forward to testify that Jodi revealed her intended detour to visit Travis.  Why?  Could it be that this was Jodi's little secret?

it appears that Jodi had no concern that Ryan Burns would learn from Travis Alexander in regards to the visit ... not concerning Ryan Burns would through Prepaid Legal Services conferences.  Why?  Could it be that Jodi's intention prior to the road trip was that Travis would never be a position to expose the detour?

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Blonde, maybe Jodi introduced him to the whole 'sex play' and perverted things making him feel safe to go there, a place he would never have gone had he not met Jodi.

We can't hear the tape but he has not been accused of wanting to forcibly have sex with anyone and there is no proof he liked little boys.  Jodi kept coming back, again and again and again, even after he made it clear he did not want to be with her.  IMO he no longer wanted to feed the perversions she enticed him with and what his relationship with her symbolized.  Travis was disgusted with himself and he was disgusted with Jodi.

He proved by his life that he was a good person, respected, responsible, and in the midst of a moral dilemma with this woman and he chose to remove the problem because he wanted a respectable wife and a happy family life.  Jodi refused to let Travis alone.

I do agree that allowing the defense to place this into evidence may in fact prevent the death penalty.  Smearing the victim does work.

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« Reply #472 on: March 04, 2013, 06:26:03 PM »

Hello everyone!  Where do we go to discuss this trial?  Got some things about it I need to vent about...;')


You're in the right thread to discuss the trial, thirdstrike.  Tell us what's on your mind about it. 
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« Reply #473 on: March 04, 2013, 06:38:42 PM »


Personally i dont think he was in on the plan. I think she either showed up unannounced or she called him on the road to see if she could come by. She had much bigger plans than just sex though, unfortunately for him. She was probably what is otherwise known as a booty call for him. Skanks like her udually end up being nothing more than a booty call.


I agree kcrn.

The gun that was reported stolen from Jodi Arias' grandparents one week prior to the murder ... the requested inconspicuous rental vehicle ... the borrowed gas cans and ... the unside down licence plate convince me there was a plan prior to the road trip to make a detour with the intention of ending Travis Alexander's life.  Cell phone activity should provide investigators with the truth regarding when Travis was made aware of Jodi's visit.

The involvement of Matthew McCartney?  Time will reveal the truth but ... I believe along with Monkey King that a plea deal may be forthcoming.

Janet

 

Thedy are not going to plea this out and lose the Death Penalty!  What I've seen thus far prove everything needed to get 1st degree with special circumstances.  Pretty cut and dry...

I agree but somehow I don't think its going to happen.  So much unsubstantiated testimony against the victim has been allowed by the judge.  Think about it.  The defendant has knowingly lied time and time again.

 

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« Reply #474 on: March 04, 2013, 06:45:01 PM »



Blonde, maybe Jodi introduced him to the whole 'sex play' and perverted things making him feel safe to go there, a place he would never have gone had he not met Jodi.

We can't hear the tape but he has not been accused of wanting to forcibly have sex with anyone and there is no proof he liked little boys.  Jodi kept coming back, again and again and again, even after he made it clear he did not want to be with her.  IMO he no longer wanted to feed the perversions she enticed him with and what his relationship with her symbolized.  Travis was disgusted with himself and he was disgusted with Jodi.

He proved by his life that he was a good person, respected, responsible, and in the midst of a moral dilemma with this woman and he chose to remove the problem because he wanted a respectable wife and a happy family life.  Jodi refused to let Travis alone.

I do agree that allowing the defense to place this into evidence may in fact prevent the death penalty.  Smearing the victim does work.

A fatal attraction!!
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« Reply #475 on: March 04, 2013, 06:49:39 PM »


Personally i dont think he was in on the plan. I think she either showed up unannounced or she called him on the road to see if she could come by. She had much bigger plans than just sex though, unfortunately for him. She was probably what is otherwise known as a booty call for him. Skanks like her udually end up being nothing more than a booty call.


I agree kcrn.

The gun that was reported stolen from Jodi Arias' grandparents one week prior to the murder ... the requested inconspicuous rental vehicle ... the borrowed gas cans and ... the unside down licence plate convince me there was a plan prior to the road trip to make a detour with the intention of ending Travis Alexander's life.  Cell phone activity should provide investigators with the truth regarding when Travis was made aware of Jodi's visit.

The involvement of Matthew McCartney?  Time will reveal the truth but ... I believe along with Monkey King that a plea deal may be forthcoming.

Janet

 

Thedy are not going to plea this out and lose the Death Penalty!  What I've seen thus far prove everything needed to get 1st degree with special circumstances.  Pretty cut and dry...

I agree but somehow I don't think its going to happen.  So much unsubstantiated testimony against the victim has been allowed by the judge.  Think about it.  The defendant has knowingly lied time and time again.

 

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Unsubstantiated and from the mouth of admitted liar. How anyone believes a word that woman utters is beyond me.
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« Reply #476 on: March 04, 2013, 07:41:18 PM »

In the cross-examination stage ... the responses of Jodi Arias to Travis Alexander's recorded perverted words were played for the jury ... responses that implied she was a willing participant.

Today ... the judge is allowed the defense to rebut with only segments of Travis' words taken out of context.  Why?


Yes she was a she was a willing participant but he was a pervert and wanted her to be a 12 year old girl so now what?

I'm telling you they are NOT going to give her DEATH
Why is he a pervert? Because she made you believe it? With nothing to support her claims btw. I think he was a typical single guy who found a girl that was into the kinkier stuff & he had fun with it. There are alot of men who would have. Doesnt make them bad people. I dont begrudge anyone whatever sex they are into as long as its not with children, not forced on someone, not with someone elses spouse or if it any way hurts another person. To each his own. Im pretty vanilla myself, much to my husbands dismay but i believe 2 people have the right to do whatever makes them happy. Im not here to judge that. Pigtails does not equate to little girl. Some guys have a fantasy about the sweet & innocent look. Bottom line, there is NO proof that he was a pedophile or that she didnt quite enjoy the sexcapades they had. She butchered him out of rage & jealousy. She wont get the death penalty but she is certainly deserving of it. As long as she sits in jail for therest of her miseable existence i dont care. She will meet her maker someday too.
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« Reply #477 on: March 04, 2013, 07:43:15 PM »


Personally i dont think he was in on the plan. I think she either showed up unannounced or she called him on the road to see if she could come by. She had much bigger plans than just sex though, unfortunately for him. She was probably what is otherwise known as a booty call for him. Skanks like her udually end up being nothing more than a booty call.


I agree kcrn.

The gun that was reported stolen from Jodi Arias' grandparents one week prior to the murder ... the requested inconspicuous rental vehicle ... the borrowed gas cans and ... the unside down licence plate convince me there was a plan prior to the road trip to make a detour with the intention of ending Travis Alexander's life.  Cell phone activity should provide investigators with the truth regarding when Travis was made aware of Jodi's visit.

The involvement of Matthew McCartney?  Time will reveal the truth but ... I believe along with Monkey King that a plea deal may be forthcoming.

Janet

 

Thedy are not going to plea this out and lose the Death Penalty!  What I've seen thus far prove everything needed to get 1st degree with special circumstances.  Pretty cut and dry...

I agree but somehow I don't think its going to happen.  So much unsubstantiated testimony against the victim has been allowed by the judge.  Think about it.  The defendant has knowingly lied time and time again.

 

Janet


Unsubstantiated and from the mouth of admitted liar. How anyone believes a word that woman utters is beyond me.

totally agree
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« Reply #478 on: March 04, 2013, 08:57:14 PM »

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« Reply #479 on: March 04, 2013, 09:01:37 PM »


Why is he a pervert? Because she made you believe it? With nothing to support her claims btw. I think he was a typical single guy who found a girl that was into the kinkier stuff & he had fun with it. There are alot of men who would have. Doesnt make them bad people. I dont begrudge anyone whatever sex they are into as long as its not with children, not forced on someone, not with someone elses spouse or if it any way hurts another person. To each his own. Im pretty vanilla myself, much to my husbands dismay but i believe 2 people have the right to do whatever makes them happy. Im not here to judge that. Pigtails does not equate to little girl. Some guys have a fantasy about the sweet & innocent look. Bottom line, there is NO proof that he was a pedophile or that she didnt quite enjoy the sexcapades they had. She butchered him out of rage & jealousy. She wont get the death penalty but she is certainly deserving of it. As long as she sits in jail for therest of her miseable existence i dont care. She will meet her maker someday too.

 

The recorded conversations in context between Jodi and Travis that were heard last week during cross-examination revealed that both were into whatever they were into.

The following article is a must read in its entirety.

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Jodi Arias Said She Liked 'Debasing' Phone Sex Talk With Ex-Boyfriend
Feb. 12, 2013


<snipped>

Arias describes on the recording how she liked wearing pig-tails while the pair had sex in a bathtub, to which Alexander responded that the pigtails were "so hot."

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-phone-sex-tape-shows-raunchy-relationship/story?id=18477130
 

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