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« Reply #660 on: March 14, 2013, 04:44:07 PM »

That closet was neat and tidy...someone in fear of their life, having to step up on a shelf to get a gun would have to mess up something in fear and their haste to get at that gun...imo...

Sad to see his personal stuff so organized, just like his life probably was before he met Jodi.

I think that his emails to her showed that he was on to her and that he was wise to her evilness and he was done with her. And she knew it...thus, murder him...


 


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ARIAS: He said, I`m going to tell all your friends and family, basically, about all the -- I can`t remember how he characterized it, but I think it was something like the psycho things that you`ve done. I don`t ever want to get another freaking text from you again or a call unless it`s an apology and a thank you for constantly having to take on your ever-ceasing problems. Not one freaking more.

I`m sick of your soap opera and your ways. You purposely try to ruin every day. It seems you`re getting good at it. You couldn`t get off your lazy butt, because that`s the sociopath I know so well, it freaking figures.

I want you to understand how evil I think you are. You are the worst thing that ever happened to me. It made me feel not good, I guess. It made me feel yucky.

You are a sociopath. You only cry for yourself. You have never cared about me and you have betrayed me worse than any example I could conjure. You are sick and you have scammed me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/19/ddhln.01.html
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« Reply #661 on: March 14, 2013, 04:53:25 PM »

Do we know or sure that Travis was ever out of the shower when he suffered his injuries? Maybe Jodi did not move him after all back to the shower. Maybe  all the blood in the sink was from Jodi cleaning his blood off of her? She should have been a bloody mess after all she did to him.

The following convinces me that Travis fought to live until a bullet from Jodi Arias' grandparents' gun took him down.

1.  Blood splatter in the sink.
2.  62 second photo of a blood Travis in the hallway.

Cookie ... I turned down a lunch date with a good friend to watch today's trial live on HLN.  It's going to cost me.  I appeased her by offering to treat her to dinner at the Olive Garden tonight.  I am forgiven.
 
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Self-defense or jealous rage? Jodi Arias on trial for brutal murder of ex-boyfriend


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"Well, theory is that Jody Arias showed up ... They had some type of rendezvous. A sexual encounter. During that time, they took photographs of each other," Flores told Maher.

And then investigators say Arias viciously attacked Travis with a knife, stabbing him repeatedly.

"There was obviously a struggle inside of that bathroom. Somehow, he got into -- close to the bedroom area, which is down a long hallway," Flores continued. "That's when the last photograph was taken of him."

"How does he end up back in the bathroom where you find him?" Maher asked.

"Well, we believe that he was dragged from that area, back into the shower," Flores replied. "And we believe at that time, that's when the palm print was left on the wall. ... It's obvious that the print was left -- with somebody having blood on their hands ...and it's not just his blood, it's a combination of her blood as well."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57564827/self-defense-or-jealous-rage-jodi-arias-on-trial-for-brutal-murder-of-ex-boyfriend/?pageNum=4

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http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50139320n
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« Reply #662 on: March 14, 2013, 04:58:00 PM »

Also at picture 5:29:20 Travis looks like he's shocked by something. I wonder if she is getting ready to shoot him and that's why in 5:30:30 he's down
Ive always thought that too. Maybe she had gun & knife & forced him to sit in the shower. More defenseless that way for the onslaught of knife wounds
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« Reply #663 on: March 14, 2013, 05:02:23 PM »

Thx for the clarification Janet..

Enjoy the Olive Garden. Sounds good right about now.
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« Reply #664 on: March 14, 2013, 05:16:09 PM »

Also at picture 5:29:20 Travis looks like he's shocked by something. I wonder if she is getting ready to shoot him and that's why in 5:30:30 he's down
Ive always thought that too. Maybe she had gun & knife & forced him to sit in the shower. More defenseless that way for the onslaught of knife wounds

I have thought the same thing.  His expression is beyond odd. 
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« Reply #665 on: March 14, 2013, 05:25:02 PM »

Thx for the clarification Janet..

Enjoy the Olive Garden. Sounds good right about now.

Cookie

I am looking forward to dinner at the Olive Garden but listening to this "expert" for the defence who is testifying ... I wish I had done lunch.

Jodi Arias has had almost five years to create a story that will conform with a battered woman's syndrome ... a story that an "expert" will determine on Jodi's words whether Travis' murder was self defence or premediated.  I hope the jury is not being deceived.  I hope there is not another "Casey Anthony" outcome.

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« Reply #666 on: March 14, 2013, 06:05:45 PM »

Thx for the clarification Janet..

Enjoy the Olive Garden. Sounds good right about now.

Cookie

I am looking forward to dinner at the Olive Garden but listening to this "expert" for the defence who is testifying ... I wish I had done lunch.

Jodi Arias has had almost five years to create a story that will conform with a battered woman's syndrome ... a story that an "expert" will determine on Jodi's words whether Travis' murder was self defence or premediated.  I hope the jury is not being deceived.  I hope there is not another "Casey Anthony" outcome.

Janet
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I hope they arent either janet. I cant imagine being an "expert" testifying on someones behalf who is so obviously evil & guilty as hell of 1st degree. Is that money really worth it? Sickens me what people will do for money & fame in a high profile murder case. Sorry dude, ptsd is real but this biatch is just straight lying. Every bit of evidence of preparation for this trip of hers points to premeditation. I would love to punch her in her ugly smug face.
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« Reply #667 on: March 14, 2013, 06:50:01 PM »

Sequence of Events?

1.  Jodi takes a photo of Travis showering.
2.  Jodi stabs Travis 27 times.
3.  Travis is still alive.  Jodi immediately leaves to retrieve Grandparents' gun.
4.  Bleeding from mouth and nose Travis staggers out of shower to the sink.
5.  Bloody Travis staggers down the hallway
6.  Jodi enters hallway with gun.
7.  Jodi shoots Travis.
8.  The 62 second photo happens?



Warning!  My speculations are subject to change.

Considering the casing was located on pool of blood in the bathroom ... it would appear that is the room where the shooting happed.

Janet


1.  Jodi takes a photo of Travis showering.  (1 second)
2.  Jodi attacks Travis by stabbing him him 27/29 times.
3.  Bleeding from mouth and nose Travis staggers out of shower to the bathroom sink.
4.  Jodi retreats from the bathroom ... retrieves her Grandparents' gun hidden in the closet.
5.  Jodi returns to the bathroom and shoots Travis
6.  Travis attempts to escape and staggers down the hallway.
7.  Travis collapses prior to reaching the door.  (62 seconds)


Recap: Week 2 of Jodi Arias trialBy HLNtv.com Staff
updated 1:12 PM EST, Thu January 17, 2013


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Lisa Perry, a forensic scientist, testified a shell casing was found on top of blood in Alexander's bathroom, suggesting the fatal gunshot wound came later in the attack.

<snipped>

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/11/jodi-arias-murder-trial-week-two-highlights


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I hope they arent either janet. I cant imagine being an "expert" testifying on someones behalf who is so obviously evil & guilty as hell of 1st degree. Is that money really worth it? Sickens me what people will do for money & fame in a high profile murder case. Sorry dude, ptsd is real but this biatch is just straight lying. Every bit of evidence of preparation for this trip of hers points to premeditation. I would love to punch her in her ugly smug face.
 

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I am not sure of the name this "expert" but I do not think he would be offended if we referred to him as "God".

This guy has had a "professional" relationship with Jodi since 2009.  Could it be that money and fame are not the only motivation for testifying on behalf the defence?

I am so frustrated.  I wish I had turned off the television and gone for a walk along the banks of the Fraser River with my hubby.

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« Reply #669 on: March 14, 2013, 07:33:36 PM »


Travis is taking a shower, unaware of any problems up to 5:24:56.  Then, a full minute goes by and at 5:25:00 he has his hands up and leaning on the shower wall.  IMO, this is where Jodi pulled the weapon on him and began taunting him as can be seen by his changing positions and finally by him down on the shower floor where, IMO, she did shoot him in the head.  Thinking of this as I was reviewing the photos gave me an idea of how cruel and brutal the entire incident was for Travis.
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« Reply #670 on: March 14, 2013, 08:49:03 PM »

"After being stabbed in the heart, Travis Alexander may have had a few minutes to fend off
his attacker before losing consciousness, according to the doctor who preformed his autopsy."
Dr. Horn said the gunshot wound could have been a fatal wound, but there is a chance that Alexander was shot in the head after he had already died, because there was a lack of hemorrhaging in the brain."

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« Reply #671 on: March 14, 2013, 08:50:17 PM »




Samuels diagnoses Jodi Arias with trnasit global amnesia



Samuels says Jodi suffers PTSD


So PTSD made Jodi cut Travis Alexander's throat, stab him in the heart and 27 more times then shot him.



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« Reply #672 on: March 14, 2013, 09:00:05 PM »

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« Reply #674 on: March 14, 2013, 09:10:18 PM »

Sequence of Events?

1.  Jodi takes a photo of Travis showering.
2.  Jodi stabs Travis 27 times.
3.  Travis is still alive.  Jodi immediately leaves to retrieve Grandparents' gun.
4.  Bleeding from mouth and nose Travis staggers out of shower to the sink.
5.  Bloody Travis staggers down the hallway
6.  Jodi enters hallway with gun.
7.  Jodi shoots Travis.
8.  The 62 second photo happens?



Warning!  My speculations are subject to change.

Considering the casing was located on pool of blood in the bathroom ... it would appear that is the room where the shooting happed.

Janet


1.  Jodi takes a photo of Travis showering.  (1 second)
2.  Jodi attacks Travis by stabbing him him 27/29 times.
3.  Bleeding from mouth and nose Travis staggers out of shower to the bathroom sink.
4.  Jodi retreats from the bathroom ... retrieves her Grandparents' gun hidden in the closet.
5.  Jodi returns to the bathroom and shoots Travis
6.  Travis attempts to escape and staggers down the hallway.
7.  Travis collapses prior to reaching the door.  (62 seconds)


Recap: Week 2 of Jodi Arias trialBy HLNtv.com Staff
updated 1:12 PM EST, Thu January 17, 2013


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Lisa Perry, a forensic scientist, testified a shell casing was found on top of blood in Alexander's bathroom, suggesting the fatal gunshot wound came later in the attack.

<snipped>

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/11/jodi-arias-murder-trial-week-two-highlights




Janet,

Listen to this guy

He agrees with you that Jodi shot Travis first. Listen to his scenario. He makes a LOT of sense.

Randolph Beasley
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/13/gun-jodi-used-jammed-forensic-expert-believes
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« Reply #675 on: March 14, 2013, 10:42:54 PM »


Janet,

Listen to this guy

He agrees with you that Jodi shot Travis first. Listen to his scenario. He makes a LOT of sense.

Randolph Beasley
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/13/gun-jodi-used-jammed-forensic-expert-believes

Thanks Kermit.

I just hope the jury gets it.

Janet

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Recap: Week 2 of Jodi Arias trialBy HLNtv.com Staff
updated 1:12 PM EST, Thu January 17, 2013


<snipped>

Lisa Perry, a forensic scientist, testified a shell casing was found on top of blood in Alexander's bathroom, suggesting the fatal gunshot wound came later in the attack.

<snipped>

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/11/jodi-arias-murder-trial-week-two-highlights


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DR. BILL LLOYD, PATHOLOGIST: ... If you go back to the medical evidence, the information garnered at the time of autopsy, they discovered that there wasn`t much blood at all, inside the skull, in the brain tissues, or in the sinuses. If, in fact, he had been shot first, there would have been blood everywhere inside the skull, the sinuses, and the facial wounds.

No, no, he got shot at the end of the story after being savagely stabbed and the massive blood loss from having his vena cava severed. Guess what? When you have massive venous collapse, you start coughing up blood and that`s what happened in the bathroom.

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Janet,

Listen to this guy

He agrees with you that Jodi shot Travis first. Listen to his scenario. He makes a LOT of sense.

Randolph Beasley
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/13/gun-jodi-used-jammed-forensic-expert-believes

Kermit

Randolh Beasley and I differ in our speculations.  I believe that the bullet casing on the blood implies Travis was stabbed prior to being shot.

Janet

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RANDOLPH BEASLEY, CRIME SCENE FORENSIC EXPERT: Well, to me, what makes sense on this case is that Jodi did not bring a knife to attack Travis. She brought a gun. That`s obvious. She premeditated this.

And when she shot him in the bathroom, when he`s in the shower, the gun jammed. And so she couldn`t finish him off. And when the gun jammed, she panicked, she had to go ahead and find a knife, whenever the knife was in the bedroom, or bathroom, wherever it was.

But when Travis made his way to the sink, he coughed out blood or e expirated blood into the sink and then she got a knife and finished him off.

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The Testimony of Jodi Arias

Jodi Arias Takes the Stand and Says She Killed Travis Alexander, Planned Suicide
Feb. 4, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-tells-jury-killed-alexander-planned-kill/story?id=18399979

Jodi Arias Describes Sexual Encounter Week After Meeting Travis Alexander
Feb. 5, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-describes-sexual-encounter-week-meeting-travis/story?id=18411629

Jodi Arias Said Travis Alexander Had 'Bill Clinton' View of Sex
Feb. 6, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-boyfriend-travis-alexander-bill-clinton-view/story?id=18420949

Jodi Arias Alleges Travis Alexander Became Violent After Admitting Attraction to Boys
Feb. 11, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-alleges-boyfriend-turned-boys-spiderman-underwear/story?id=18465253

Jodi Arias Said She Liked 'Debasing' Phone Sex Talk With Ex-Boyfriend
Feb. 12, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-phone-sex-tape-shows-raunchy-relationship/story?id=18477130

Jodi Arias Claims Travis Alexander Showed Increasingly Aggressive Behavior
Feb. 13, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-judge-rejects-plea-remove-possibility-death/story?id=18491675

Jodi Arias Describes Violent Sex Before Killing Travis Alexander
Feb. 19, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-describes-violent-sex-killing-boyfriend/story?id=18538637

Jodi Arias Finishes Testimony Describing Killing and Her Lies
Feb. 20, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-remember-stabbing-travis-alexander/story?id=18548065





The Cross Examination of Jodi Arias

Jodi Arias Grilled Over Pedophilia Charge, Tootsie Pop Fantasy
Feb. 21, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-prosecutor-grills-alleged-lies-jealosy/story?id=18558449

Jodi Arias Claims Innocence on Charge That Carries Death Penalty
Feb. 25, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-declares-shes-innocent-frist-degree-murder/story?id=18591150

Jodi Arias Admits Enjoying Some Sex, Maintains She 'Felt Like a Prostitute'
Feb. 26, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-jurors-tempers-flare-arias-prosecutor/story?id=18598761

Jodi Arias Prosecutor Like a 'Rabid Dog,' Legal Critic Says
Feb. 27, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-prosecutors-rabid-dog-legal-critic/story?id=18611369

Jodi Arias Cried As Prosecutor Recounted Each Detail of Stabbing, Slashing
Feb. 28, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-tears-forced-recount-details-stabbing-slashing/story?id=18621026

Jodi Arias Reads Torn-Out Diary Pages About Suicide, Rocky Relationship
March 4, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-insists-travis-alexander-kill/story?id=18649511

Jodi Arias Trial's Focus Is Graphic Sex, Not Killing
March 5, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-trial-graphic-sex-details-precedence-murder/story?id=18658243


The Jury Questions Jodi

Jodi Arias Jurors Show Skepticism in Questions to Arias
March 6, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/jurors-show-disbelief-jodi-arias-stories-18678689

Jodi Arias Makes Final Plea to Jury to Believe Her in Murder Trial
March 7, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-makes-final-plea-jurors-murder-trial/story?id=18675495

Jurors Show Disbelief of Jodi Arias Stories
March 7, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/jurors-show-disbelief-jodi-arias-stories-18678689

Prosecutor Raises Voice at Arias in Arizona Trial
March 13, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/arias-resumes-testimony-arizona-murder-trial-18715772


Expert Testimony - Defence

Expert: Jodi Arias Suffered From PTSD, Memory Loss
March 15, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/expert-jodi-arias-suffered-ptsd-memory-loss-18733838
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« Reply #679 on: March 15, 2013, 09:48:43 AM »

I'm listening to the psychologist testifying...he is wrong...you do NOT need knowledge of the test to manipulate it.  If you are manipulative in nature you CAN manipulate it.  The questions on these tests are obvious...even if there is a "lie detector" in the test...you can tell that the questions are trying to trip you up and you adjust as needed.  I have taken these tests through a college class, Tests and Measurements. 
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