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Author Topic: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial  (Read 1270436 times)
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« Reply #700 on: March 15, 2013, 04:41:52 PM »


Travis is taking a shower, unaware of any problems up to 5:24:56.  Then, a full minute goes by and at 5:25:00 he has his hands up and leaning on the shower wall.  IMO, this is where Jodi pulled the weapon on him and began taunting him as can be seen by his changing positions and finally by him down on the shower floor where, IMO, she did shoot him in the head.  Thinking of this as I was reviewing the photos gave me an idea of how cruel and brutal the entire incident was for Travis.


I think Travis is already dead in picture 5:30:30 also their is NO water the shower, it has been shut off

When you considering forensics related to Travis in the bathroom sink and ... the last photo taken in the hallway ... I don't believe Travis is dead at 5:30:30 but he has obviously been stabbed.

Could Travis have staggered from the shower to the bathroom sink where Jodi then shot him ... where the casing landed on a pool of blood?  Could Travis have then staggered down the hallway where the 62 second photo captured him?

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Det. Esteban Flores


January 19, 2013 10:57 PM
Self-defense or jealous rage? Jodi Arias on trial for brutal murder of ex-boyfriend


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"Well, theory is that Jody Arias showed up ... They had some type of rendezvous. A sexual encounter. During that time, they took photographs of each other," Flores told Maher.

And then investigators say Arias viciously attacked Travis with a knife, stabbing him repeatedly.

"There was obviously a struggle inside of that bathroom. Somehow, he got into -- close to the bedroom area, which is down a long hallway," Flores continued. "That's when the last photograph was taken of him."

"How does he end up back in the bathroom where you find him?" Maher asked.

"Well, we believe that he was dragged from that area, back into the shower," Flores replied. "And we believe at that time, that's when the palm print was left on the wall. ... It's obvious that the print was left -- with somebody having blood on their hands ...and it's not just his blood, it's a combination of her blood as well."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57564827/self-defense-or-jealous-rage-jodi-arias-on-trial-for-brutal-murder-of-ex-boyfriend/?pageNum=4

29:30 - 48 Hours Mystery - Video
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50139320n
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« Reply #701 on: March 15, 2013, 04:46:43 PM »

A conviction on second-degree murder carries a maximum sentence of 22 years in prison. A first-degree murder conviction could mean the death penalty for Arias.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Phoenix-defense-attorney-Jodi-Arias-conviction-could-come-down-to-1-juror-190057081.html


I am not sure, but it looks like she won't go free no matter what the jury decides unless they think she is not guilty on all counts.



It's my opinion that she will be convicted, but they will not give her death.
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« Reply #702 on: March 15, 2013, 07:06:53 PM »

Hi everyone.  albino
Been following for 3 weeks since I saw on Beth's fb page.
Had to do a search on here to find the thread.
Didn't know u guys were following too.
What a wacko shank is huh....
Do we have a "fog" icon yet?

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« Reply #703 on: March 15, 2013, 08:00:34 PM »


Travis is taking a shower, unaware of any problems up to 5:24:56.  Then, a full minute goes by and at 5:25:00 he has his hands up and leaning on the shower wall.  IMO, this is where Jodi pulled the weapon on him and began taunting him as can be seen by his changing positions and finally by him down on the shower floor where, IMO, she did shoot him in the head.  Thinking of this as I was reviewing the photos gave me an idea of how cruel and brutal the entire incident was for Travis.

What actually happened between 5:30 to 5:32?   
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« Reply #704 on: March 15, 2013, 08:14:29 PM »

NANCY GRACE - HLN - 5:00 PM PT

The 62 seconds is the topic of discussion.
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« Reply #705 on: March 15, 2013, 09:23:42 PM »

Hi Pharlap

Could it be that the image stamped 5:29:20 is when the stabbing of Travis Alexander began?  The enlarged photo appears to reveal some cuts around the neck.

Janet


'Were you crying when you were stabbing him?'
Fri March 01, 2013


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Here are some notes on the photos of the last moments of Alexander's life compiled by In Session producer Emily Kean:

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June 4th  timestamp: 5:29:20   Travis looking at the camera see his face(exhibit 159)

June 4th timestamp:  5:30:30   Travis sitting down in the shower (exhibit 160)

Notes on Accidental photos:

June 4th timestamp: 5:31:14   bathroom ceiling (exhibit 161)

June 4th timestamp: 5:32:16   Travis on the floor bleeding (exhibit 162)

June 4th timestamp: 5:33:13    Baseboard with blood on it (exhibit 163)

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/02/28/jodi-arias-testifies-day-13-live-blog



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« Reply #706 on: March 15, 2013, 10:05:05 PM »

Hi everyone.  albino
Been following for 3 weeks since I saw on Beth's fb page.
Had to do a search on here to find the thread.
Didn't know u guys were following too.
What a wacko shank is huh....
Do we have a "fog" icon yet?

Not that I know of, but I made this to illustrate Ms. Arias' brain fog:



It is a convenient excuse for her when she cannot come up with a believable lie, if you ask me.

Just ridiculous.
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« Reply #707 on: March 15, 2013, 10:16:59 PM »

Is Jodi holding the camera that is taking these accidental pictures approximately one minute apart?

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1.  Travis attacked with a knife while in the shower.  (Photos 5:22:24 - 5:30:30)

2.  Travis struggles to the bathroom. (Photo 5:31:14)
 
3.  Travis struggles up the hallway. (Photo 5:32:16)

4.  Travis makes it to his bedroom. (blood found in bedroom)

5.  Travis makes his way back to the bathroom. (blood splatter in sink)

6.  Jodi shoots Travis with Grandparents' gun. (casing in bathroom on top of puddle of blood)

7.  Jodi drags Travis from the bathroom sink to the shower stall. (body found in stall)
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« Reply #708 on: March 15, 2013, 10:22:40 PM »

Hi everyone.  albino
Been following for 3 weeks since I saw on Beth's fb page.
Had to do a search on here to find the thread.
Didn't know u guys were following too.
What a wacko shank is huh....
Do we have a "fog" icon yet?



Not that I can find.

 scratch
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« Reply #709 on: March 15, 2013, 10:23:33 PM »

Hi everyone.  albino
Been following for 3 weeks since I saw on Beth's fb page.
Had to do a search on here to find the thread.
Didn't know u guys were following too.
What a wacko shank is huh....
Do we have a "fog" icon yet?

Not that I know of, but I made this to illustrate Ms. Arias' brain fog:



It is a convenient excuse for her when she cannot come up with a believable lie, if you ask me.

Just ridiculous.

I love it!!
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« Reply #710 on: March 15, 2013, 10:25:19 PM »


Travis is taking a shower, unaware of any problems up to 5:24:56.  Then, a full minute goes by and at 5:25:00 he has his hands up and leaning on the shower wall.  IMO, this is where Jodi pulled the weapon on him and began taunting him as can be seen by his changing positions and finally by him down on the shower floor where, IMO, she did shoot him in the head.  Thinking of this as I was reviewing the photos gave me an idea of how cruel and brutal the entire incident was for Travis.

What actually happened between 5:30 to 5:32?   

The pic 5:30, sitting in the shower, what is the silver thing by his foot, right corner? 
Anyone have an idea? Can't be the knife right?
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« Reply #711 on: March 15, 2013, 10:41:42 PM »

March 15, 2013 Tweets
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4pm eastern TODAY @HLNMakingIt #JodiArias says she put the knife in the washing machine... SEE THE KNIFE I have the photo...@HLN  4pm today!

10h Jen Bernstein Adams ‏@jenbernHLN
unexpected court action today in #JodiArias trial.  Live coverage on #HLN begins this hour.
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« Reply #712 on: March 16, 2013, 01:30:44 AM »

 

I looked a few weeks ago and could not find a thread here for this trial.... I have been following it as well...
I dont think that Jodi and Travis did have sex on the day of the murder...all we have is her word for....
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« Reply #713 on: March 16, 2013, 01:34:49 AM »

And I agree with y'all...she will be convicted...but not be put to death....if ever anyone was deserving of the Death Penalty, this
whackadoodle is it...she is scary...
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« Reply #714 on: March 16, 2013, 08:36:14 AM »

March 15, 2013 Tweets
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6h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Watch me battle #JoseBaez Monday on HLN After Dark as he defends #JodiArias in front of our #JodiJury ...10pm eastern

6h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Monday #JoseBaez defends #JodiArias in front of our #JodiJury  on "HLN After Dark"... Monday 10pm eastern on HLN

7h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Getting ready for  #JodiJury  inside scale model of closet where #JodiArias says she got gun. 10pm Monday @HLNtv pic.twitter.com/D0iFng4n4q
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7h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Is #JodiArias telling the truth about the knife? I'll show you pictures & our legal dream team weighs in. 4pm ET on @HLNMakingIt #jodijury

8h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
4pm eastern TODAY @HLNMakingIt #JodiArias says she put the knife in the washing machine... SEE THE KNIFE I have the photo...@HLN  4pm today!

10h Jen Bernstein Adams ‏@jenbernHLN
unexpected court action today in #JodiArias trial.  Live coverage on #HLN begins this hour.
 Retweeted by Vinnie Politan

11h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
BIG week in the #JodiArias trial! RECAP at 4p ET on @HLNMakingIt! What do YOU think was the biggest moment this week? #jodijury

12h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias expert says her memory gaps and fog is caused by PTSD ... Is Jodi's PTSD BS?  What do you think, #JodiJury ?
Cant that scumbag baez just crawl back under the rock he came out of already? It disgusts me that anyone would even give him the time of day. Do we really care about his opinion? I think hes well proven himself as a staunch supporter of evil skanks. It amazes me watching some of these defense attorneys argue why her story could be plausible. I guess so.......if you are an absolute brainless moron. Please let there be justice for travis & his family. Noone deserves to die such a brutal death except for jodi herself. Every time i look at those pictures i cannot fathom how a person could do such heinous things to another. His poor family has to sit & live through what he suffered, all in pictures, while the perpetrator of this evil sits there acting cute & coy. No remorse whatsoever.
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« Reply #715 on: March 16, 2013, 08:38:34 AM »

March 15, 2013 Tweets
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6h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Watch me battle #JoseBaez Monday on HLN After Dark as he defends #JodiArias in front of our #JodiJury ...10pm eastern

6h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Monday #JoseBaez defends #JodiArias in front of our #JodiJury  on "HLN After Dark"... Monday 10pm eastern on HLN

7h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Getting ready for  #JodiJury  inside scale model of closet where #JodiArias says she got gun. 10pm Monday @HLNtv pic.twitter.com/D0iFng4n4q
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7h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Is #JodiArias telling the truth about the knife? I'll show you pictures & our legal dream team weighs in. 4pm ET on @HLNMakingIt #jodijury

8h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
4pm eastern TODAY @HLNMakingIt #JodiArias says she put the knife in the washing machine... SEE THE KNIFE I have the photo...@HLN  4pm today!

10h Jen Bernstein Adams ‏@jenbernHLN
unexpected court action today in #JodiArias trial.  Live coverage on #HLN begins this hour.
 Retweeted by Vinnie Politan

11h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
BIG week in the #JodiArias trial! RECAP at 4p ET on @HLNMakingIt! What do YOU think was the biggest moment this week? #jodijury

12h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias expert says her memory gaps and fog is caused by PTSD ... Is Jodi's PTSD BS?  What do you think, #JodiJury ?
If there was ever a case where taking the jury to the crime scene would be helpful, this one is it. Why dont they do that i wonder.
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« Reply #716 on: March 16, 2013, 08:45:43 AM »

Premeditated or Heat of Passion
Absolutely premeditated.
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« Reply #717 on: March 16, 2013, 11:17:38 AM »

Looks like a knife blade to me because he's sitting on the drain
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« Reply #718 on: March 16, 2013, 11:20:17 AM »

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« Reply #719 on: March 16, 2013, 11:21:18 AM »

also looks like some blood under him maybe some can made it larger so we can see better
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