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« Reply #160 on: February 08, 2013, 03:35:24 AM »

The more she talks the more she hangs herself! She is over selling herself! I'm thinking that the jury! Will see thru her! She was a permissive! Nymphomaniac ! The further shes pushing the needle into her arm.
I think she's made up and lied about so much! She's dripping with sweetness on the stand ! I truly think her own words will secure the straps on the table that will be her death bed. !just saying! I'm not convinced that Travis sent her that t shirt ! With his name on it! I seriously think she was so obsessed with him and wanted to make sure other girls knew so thus the thirst! With his name.! Why would he buy something like that for her! If he wasn't wanting to introduce her to anyone why would he. She was the one obsessed with him!
Her demeanor reminds me of Scott Peterson and Theodore bundy! She's dripping with confidence in her ability to convince the jury! She lied when she said that the only reason she made the comment! That no jury would convict her! Her words than were because she was not guilty! Now she says! Because  she was going to kill herself.  What a farce!

I think the jury seen thru her!
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« Reply #161 on: February 09, 2013, 12:49:59 AM »

The more she talks the more she hangs herself! She is over selling herself! I'm thinking that the jury! Will see thru her! She was a permissive! Nymphomaniac ! The further shes pushing the needle into her arm.
I think she's made up and lied about so much! She's dripping with sweetness on the stand ! I truly think her own words will secure the straps on the table that will be her death bed. !just saying! I'm not convinced that Travis sent her that t shirt ! With his name on it! I seriously think she was so obsessed with him and wanted to make sure other girls knew so thus the thirst! With his name.! Why would he buy something like that for her! If he wasn't wanting to introduce her to anyone why would he. She was the one obsessed with him!
Her demeanor reminds me of Scott Peterson and Theodore bundy! She's dripping with confidence in her ability to convince the jury! She lied when she said that the only reason she made the comment! That no jury would convict her! Her words than were because she was not guilty! Now she says! Because  she was going to kill herself.  What a farce!

I think the jury seen thru her!

Ireally hope they are smart enough to see thru her. If she was so used & abused by him then how does she explain the fact that she drove 1000 miles to be mistreated. Seems to me he was done with her & her anger is what plotted the whole scenario. She reeled him back in with sex because most men would succumb to it then attacked him while he was defenseless in the shower. Is it really that hard to figure out? Im dying for this trial to be over. I pray we get to see the look on her face when she hears a guilty verdict. The girl is pure evil just like casey anthony. I hope this jury can see that. How in the heck did thry get so lucky to have so many men on the jury? Prosecution didnt choose well. Men are kore likely to fall for her innocent abused act. No insult to men intended.
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« Reply #162 on: February 09, 2013, 05:00:44 PM »

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/07/ijvm.01.html
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

More Sexual Details in Jodi Arias Testimony

Aired February 7, 2013 - 19:00   ET


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Tonight, a graphic litany of sexual encounters from accused murderess Jodi Alexander. She`s trying to prove she killed her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander, in self-defense, but in arguing that Travis sexually degraded her, is Jodi actually giving jurors her motive for murder and sealing her own fate?

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Tonight, is Jodi Arias too clever for her own good? On the stand, she`s been able to remember tons of graphic X- rated details of her sexual encounters with victim Travis Alexander. But will her memory be as strong when the prosecutor grills her about how she stabbed Travis Alexander 29 times, shot him in the face, slit his throat ear to ear?

Plus, Travis and Jodi`s sex life as Mormons. I`ll talk to a Mormon expert tonight. Is he buying defense claims that Travis used the cloak of religion to make Jodi a sex slave? We`ll debate it all with our panel of experts, and we`re taking your calls.

JODI ARIAS, MURDER DEFENDANT: The kissing got more passionate, more intense. And then he spun me around. He bent me over the bed.

JUAN MARTINEZ, PROSECUTOR: She`s the one that did the stabbing. She`s the one that slit his throat. She`s the one that shot him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She succeeded in making sure that no one could have him.

ARIAS: Is what he had been wanting for a while. I trusted him.

JENNIFER WILLMOTT, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: The more that Travis distanced himself from Jodi to his friends, the easier it was for him to keep control of her. And to keep her for his own sexual needs.

ARIAS: Kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.

WILLMOTT: Did Travis ever call you names?

ARIAS: He called me a skank. Called me Pollyanna. He called me porn star.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that a picture of an abused woman or a jealously obsessed woman?

KIRK NURMI, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Did he provide you with any Valentine`s gifts?

ARIAS: A shirt that he had been joking about getting me for some months. It`s the one that was in the picture that said "Travis Alexander`s." The pink shorts. There was one other thing beneath the shorts. They were boy`s underwear. They were Spider-Man underwear.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, the secrets and strategies behind Jodi Arias` graphic and extremely sexual testimony. Will these lush inducing stories of sex convince the jury that Jodi killed Travis Alexander in self- defense?

Good evening. I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live.

The beautiful 32-year-old photographer is on trial for stabbing her ex-boyfriend 29 times, slicing Travis Alexander`s throat ear to ear and putting a bullet in his head. She says it`s all done in self-defense. But just look at the wounds on these autopsy photos.

Jodi took the stand and told the jury, "Oh, I did it all, because I had to. I had to protect myself to save my life." Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

NURMI: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4, 2008?

ARIAS: Yes, I did.

NURMI: Why?

ARIAS: The simple answer is that he attacked me. And I defended myself.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi repeatedly shocked the entire courtroom as she walked the jurors through her entire life story, giving X-rated details about her sex life with Travis, including when he allegedly pressured her into kinky sex on the day of her baptism into the Mormon Church.

We must warn you, this is graphic, but it is what Jodi said in open court, and it`s central to the defense claim that Jodi was sexually degraded and abused by Travis.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We were kissing, and I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. The kissing got more passionate, more intense. And then he spun me around. He bent me over the bed. He began to have anal sex with me.

NURMI: Did you say anything, did you tell him no?

ARIAS: No.

NURMI: Was it pleasurable for you physically?

ARIAS: At that time, it was painful.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Is the jury buying her stories? Call me: 1-877-JVM- SAYS, 1-877-586-7297. We`re going to debate it with our legal team in a second.

First, straight out to our producer, Selin Darkalstanian. You`ve been in the courtroom for Jodi`s extraordinary testimony. Give us the big picture. What story is Jodi telling?

SELIN DARKALSTANIAN, HLN PRODUCER: Jane, this has been the most sexual testimony I have ever heard in a courtroom. Basically, Jodi is on the stand. She`s taking us through their relationship.

She says she goes to Vegas. She goes to a work convention. This guy comes up to her, meets her, says, "I want to take you to this gala." She doesn`t have a dress. She has to run out, borrow a dress from a friend. He takes her to this gala. They`re smitten with each other. She comes home. Remember, at that time, she`s still in a relationship with another guy. She`s living with him. They own a house together.

She comes home, breaks up with the other guy. She starts talking to Travis. Things are progressing.

Her and Travis, their first kiss. He makes her have oral sex with him. This is according to Jodi on the stand. After that, he starts introducing her to his religion. She converts to Mormonism.

The same day that she gets baptized into his religion, they come home, and he has anal sex with her. She didn`t want to. He makes her have it. He is forcing her to have it. And so that`s kind of where it`s left off right now.

And she`s still telling us -- imagine, there`s so much more. We`re not even at the phone sex. We`re not even deep into their relationship. But this is Jodi on the stand taking us through every single step of their relationship and every single sexual encounter that these two had, we`re hearing about it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: From her perspective. He`s not here, of course, to give his side of the story.

The majority of Jodi`s testimony is focused, as you just heard from Selin, on her sex life of the man she eventually killed, Travis Alexander. Now this is her describing what happened after their first kiss. We warn you, it`s sexually explicit. Then we`ll debate it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: This is embarrassing. He began to perform oral sex on me. I was uncomfortable.

He knew what he was doing for sure, but it was just -- felt like too much too soon and, I mean, I couldn`t exactly rewind at that point. I guess it would have seemed to me to be unattractive for -- for me to say anything different or anything negative about the experience. He asked for reciprocation.

NURMI: Did you perform oral sex upon him at that time?

ARIAS: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s bring in our legal panel to debate it. We`ve heard about one sexual encounter after another. And they`re getting more graphic. But is it really necessary for her to go through every single time the defendant, Jodi, and the victim, had sex in such X-rated detail?

So expert panel, will all this sex talk backfire on the defense or could it prove the pattern of sexual abuse she hopes will help her prove, ultimately, battered women syndrome? We`ll start with Evangeline Gomez, criminal defense attorney.

EVANGELINE GOMEZ, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: This testimony is critical for the defense. If they didn`t have it, she wouldn`t have a case. It showed thus far that she is the dirty little secret. He had numerous women that he was sending text messages to. A married Mormon woman that he was flirting with. A woman at a convention. Another woman on the side. This is ridiculous. He made her mind mush.

And what the jury needs to understand and what viewers need to understand is that you can`t look at someone and tell if that person is a victim of domestic violence. Beautiful women, mediocre-looking women, beautiful men, can be victims of domestic violence.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.

GOMEZ: And that`s what people have to understand.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Stacey Honowitz, Florida prosecutor.

STACEY HONOWITZ, FLORIDA PROSECUTOR: Are you seriously kidding me with that explanation? I mean, really? Where is there any evidence that there`s any kind of domestic violence?

So wow we`re to assume that any time a woman has dirty names called to her or she doesn`t like the kind of sex that`s going on and she stays in a relationship, that now she can slit a man`s throat, shoot him and stab him 29 times? If you want to believe that -- this testimony is ridiculous.

Quite frankly, a prosecutor, I`m sure at some point they said that this is not relevant and the defense said, well, we have to try to prove something. We have to try to say that she`s abused. This testimony means nothing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.

HONOWITZ: And the prosecutor doesn`t have to do a long cross- examination at all.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Adam Switzel (ph).

HONOWITZ: Quick question, have you ever been hurt?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Adam.

ADAM SWITZEL (PH): Yes, I`m here. I can`t even believe I`m listening to Stacey speak the way she does, given the cases that she`s dealt with.

Let`s talk about what this case is about. This case is about like everybody else`s life to a typical "T." We all have skeletons in our closet. And in this case, the defense has opened up this young -- this young gentleman`s closet, and the bones have come flying out. They`re all over the floor. And rightfully so. Because if there`s one thing we know about this case, is that this man was controlling, he was sadistic, he was abusive to her.

And there are two types of abuse. There`s psychological abuse, and there`s physical abuse. And this young lady was psychologically abused. It justifies her act.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.

SWITZEL (ph): And I think that the defense is going to have a very good point here.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tanya Acker.
TANYA ACKER, ATTORNEY: I think that the defense of Jodi Arias in this case as some sort of battered, abused or degraded woman is really offensive to real victims of domestic violence.

I mean, the things that she`s describing make the victim sound like a jerk. I`m sure he was a jerk. He sounds like a lot of guys that women in America have dated. But to suggest that that conduct would rise to the level -- you send a bad Valentine, you`re not nice to me in public, you call me late at night, you`re insensitive sexually -- to suggest that that`s the sort of conduct that would justify being stabbed 29 times, to me, is pretty outrageous.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but what about the -- what about the religious cloak here? I think that is the missing piece of the puzzle. We`re going to talk to an expert in the Mormon religion on the other side of the break.

But Stacey Honowitz, couldn`t that be the missing piece that makes this possibly something that the jury will look at?

HONOWITZ: No, I mean, listen, you never can predict what a jury is going to do. But I don`t think it has anything to do with it at all. Big deal, he said, "I`m a Mormon, and I don`t have sex." Plenty of guys lie to the women that they`re with in order to have sex. That doesn`t mean you get to kill them, because the man lied to you. There has to be evidence here and there is no evidence whatsoever that she is being violated, that she is being abused. That`s what we`re seeing, nothing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We are just getting started with our debate. Calls lining up. We`re taking your calls on the other side. And we`re going to talk to an expert in Mormon religion next.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: It was a wooden kitchen spoon that she could keep in her purse. The more we`d squirm, the harder they would try to whack us.

His name was Bobby. He entertained the belief in vampires. I used to read Anne Rice novels.

I saw some books on witchcraft and I thought...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We did what I guess he called -- at the time he called it grinding, so it`s kind of like, you know, just being together but not actually having intercourse. It`s something that, that I guess a lot of Mormons do, but they`re not supposed to. There are different terms for it. Like the Provo push.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: The defense claims Travis was a master manipulator who coerced Jodi into believing it was OK, despite the Mormon vow of chastity, for them to have any kind of sex but vaginal sex outside of marriage.

Jodi claims right after this photo was taken, right after Travis, an elder in the church, baptized her, he subjected her to painful anal sex.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We were kissing. And I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. The kissing got more passionate, more intense. And then he spun me around. He bent me over the bed. He began to have anal sex with me.

NURMI: Did you say anything? Did you tell him no?

ARIAS: No.

NURMI: Was it pleasurable for you physically?

ARIAS: At that time, it was painful.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re delighted to have an expert on the Mormon religion right now. Patrick Mason chairs Mormon studies at Claremont Graduate University. Thank you for joining us, sir.

Leading a double life, one as a good Mormon, the other as a sexual deviant. He`s not here to defend himself. But there could be -- we don`t know, but there might be Mormons on the jury.

How do you believe they will react upon hearing this kind of testimony that he baptized her and then allegedly had this kind of sex with her hours later?

PATRICK MASON, CHAIR, MORMON STUDIES, CLAREMONT GRADUATE UNIVERSITY: Well, Mormons take chastity really seriously. The vow, the promise that they make not to have any kind of sex outside of marriage. And so any Mormons who hear that they`d be having this kind of premarital sex would be -- would be shocked. It would go against their religion. But especially the night of her baptism. That would be seen as sacrilegious, really.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Would it be seen as -- which I`m only asking because the defense is trying to prove this -- some kind of sexual deviancy?

MASON: Well, certainly. I mean, any -- for Mormons, you know, sex is beautiful. It`s given to us from God, but only within the confines of marriage. And so any -- any sexual relations, whether it be premarital or extramarital, anything outside of relationships between a man and a woman, would be seen as deviant in some way.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Simone Bien, you are a noted psychosexual and relationship therapist. You heard Jodi Arias talking about the Provo push. In other words, essentially trying to have sexual contact without it being labeled sexual contact. A grinding that doesn`t involve removal of clothes.

It reminds me of kind of like being a little bit pregnant. It`s hard to have sexual contact without having sexual contact.

SIMONE BIEN, PSYCHOSEXUAL AND RELATIONSHIP THERAPIST: Exactly, Jane. I mean, come on. This isn`t stuff that friends do. Any kind of grinding - - or it`s called -- can be called fractage (ph) as well, any -- that is a sexual engagement. And I don`t buy all this stuff about the fact that, you know, you can`t compartmentalize what sex is. She`s talking about anal sex, oral sex. The clue is in the title. They`re having sex of some description.

What concerns me is when she said, about when they were talking about oral, anal sex, was it enjoyable, and she said it was painful at that time. So she`s given us an indication that actually there were times that clearly she did enjoy it.

But they had this enmeshed crazy addictive sexual power games. That they were clearly both somehow getting off on.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I guess the bottom line is, is all this irrelevant? Or do you think, Simone, that some member of the jury might decide, well, maybe she was sexually abused by him and she had to defend herself? I mean, it`s a leap.

BIEN: Yes, I mean, the thing is, I speak to women day in, day out, and, Jane, I`m sure you have friends, we all have friends, who have had some kind of physical, emotional, sexual abuse from guys. Many of us have. And that doesn`t mean that -- maybe in our fantasy we might feel like murdering them, but we control that fantasy, that murderous rage.

She acted out on it. And just whatever happened, that doesn`t entitle for a man to be killed and murdered in such a horrific degrading, sick way.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you mentioned the word "degrading." And I`m wondering if, given the fact that she felt she was degraded, if she decided to make this killing particularly degrading. In other words, to kind of even the score. And we`re going to debate on the other side whether she`s actually proving to the jury that she had a motive to murder.

Patrick Mason, again, your expertise in the Mormon religion, was he breaking the rules, I guess, is the bottom line. If any of this is true, and we do know they did have a sexual encounter because that`s pretty well documented in camera photos that were found at the crime scene.


MASON: Yes, there`s no doubt. If, you know, as the evidence plays out and especially the defendant`s testimony. I mean, it would have clearly gone against the rules for Mormons. For this kind -- these kinds of sexual relationships outside of marriage, before marriage. Would have - - would have been -- clearly, Mormons would see it as against the commandments of God to have sex before marriage. There`s no doubt about it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We`re going to debate. On the other side, is Jodi helping herself or is she showing she had a motive to murder?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

NURMI: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4, 2008?

ARIAS: Yes, I did.

NURMI: Why?

ARIAS: The simple answer is that he attacked me, and I defended myself.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: Those are pictures of Travis` erection.

NURMI: And when did you -- how did you come into possession of these photos?

ARIAS: They were sent to me.

NURMI: How?

ARIAS: Via his phone.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s go out to Beth Karas, correspondent, "In Session."

You`ve been in court. This penis photo, and that`s what it is. And I`m sorry, this is one of the most sexually graphic trials I`ve ever covered. I mean, it surpasses the Menendez brothers, certainly Casey Anthony. I can`t think of one where there`s such graphic testimony, especially that`s been broadcast on television.

You were in court, I believe, during the time the photo was shown. What was the reaction? And that was it like? Where was it shown?

BETH KARAS, CORRESPONDENT, TRUTV`S "IN SESSION": Well, it was shown everywhere, Jane. It was -- you`re talking about Travis` erection that was sent by phone by him to her 15 days before he baptized her, right? It was November 11, 2006.

It was admitted into evidence finally yesterday. And it was on a huge screen, you know, 50 times larger than life, in front of the jury. Another monitor behind -- right up above and behind Jodi Arias, on the witness box. Another monitor to the other side of the courtroom that faced the public gallery. And then several computer monitors also facing the gallery but on the lawyer`s table. Everywhere you looked, that`s what you saw, and it was up there for a long time.

Jurors were eventually doing this, and they`re doing this. Because, you know, if they looked at Jodi, they saw it. If they looked straight ahead, they saw it. And enough already, they finally took it down.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, it`s been awkward, even me talking with our staff, the producers. We`re using language that we normally don`t use. There`s kind of an awkward ick factor. And it has made us, all of us at times, like, really uncomfortable. Is it uncomfortable in the courtroom?

KARAS: Well, it is for some. There was a spectator yesterday who had her head down like that during the whole time the photo of the erection was up there.

But you know, we don`t televise sex crimes cases. So I mean, somebody who has been repeatedly sexually abused, raped, for example, is going to have testimony like this. But their affect might be a little bit different on the stand, although flat affect is not unusual in rape cases when victims testify.

So we don`t televise those. The law doesn`t allow it in most cases. So...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. That`s what`s unique. Yes, that`s what`s unique about it. There`s the defendant bringing this up. Such an odd situation.

Let`s go to the phone lines. Lori, Washington, your question or thought. Lori, Washington.

CALLER: Hi, Jane, thank you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hi.

CALLER: When they were talking about her previous boyfriends, she said today that she thought that one of her boyfriends was seeing another person. She went over to his home, confronted him. He then got abusive, in a stranglehold. She said she about passed out.

Then he mentioned about -- she said she -- if her family knew, they wouldn`t like it. Then he jumped on her. And said that he would kill all of her family. She attempted to make a 911 call, which he stopped.

At no time did she say that she tried to defend herself, nor did she try to get out of there. She didn`t even try to kill him. And he actually did attack her.

I think she killed Travis because he had a girlfriend obviously, and she gave him his last taste of sex for several hours like they give Death Row men their last meal and then proceeded to kill him because she didn`t want anybody else to have him if she couldn`t have him.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, wow, that is a fascinating analysis. Simone Bien, you`re a sex expert. Do you think there might be some truth to that, like last meal before...

BIEN: Yes, I think there -- there could be some truth to that. What I would like to add to that is if she has been physically or sexually abused in her past from her early years, this kind of murderous rage that she has inside of her was clearly externalized, taken out on Travis.

She felt degraded, like he used her, abused her, spat her out, didn`t care for her feelings. Just like perhaps we will hear more of she felt as a child. So she hasn`t processed any of that. If she hasn`t gone to therapy, if she hasn`t dealt with any of that...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You are so right.

(CROSSTALK)

BIEN: ... externalize all of this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Simone, if people went to therapy, there would be far fewer killings in this world.

She claims her mother beat her with a spoon. If she had gone to a therapist and worked that out or maybe in some kind of 12-step program, we wouldn`t be here today.

So much more intense debate to come on the show.

At the top of the hour, Nancy Grace looking at whether the jury could actually be buying into the defense case. Nancy, 8/10 Eastern right here on HLN.

On the other side, we`re going to bring you more highlights, or lowlights, as it were, of Jodi`s testimony and debate. Is she sealing her own fate?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: I felt an attraction to him. It wasn`t anything defined. We were sort of seeing each other.

He wasn`t treating me bad. He just seemed checked out. Kind of distant. Primarily physical. I kind of felt like a prostitute, sort of. I felt used, but I knew I`d gone there on my own willingly.

He didn`t return my call. I called him one more time.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JODI ARIAS, ON TRIAL FOR MURDER OF TRAVIS ALEXANDER: It was a wooden kitchen spoon that she would keep in her purse. The more we squirmed, the harder they would try to whack us.

His name was Bobby. Well, he entertained a belief in vampires. I used to read Anne Rice novels. I saw some books on witchcraft and I had thought --

I found Daryl very attractive, a George Clooney-type. I`m a one guy at a time kind of person. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw somebody walking toward me. He looked like he had purpose so I stepped out of the way. And he was licking his lips and he was staring at my lips. We had some kind of chemistry. I just didn`t want to, like, snuff it out.

He had his temple garments on under sweats. Mormonism is the butt of a lot jokes on South Park.

This is embarrassing. Oral sex. He wanted to receive it. He wanted to do it. He refused to kiss me afterward because he said it was gross.

He called me a skank. He called me Pollyanna. Called me porn star. I kind of felt like a prostitute sort of. We did what I guess he called at that time he called it grinding. It just seemed like he sort of had the Bill Clinton version.

I trusted what I was told by him. So I didn`t feel like we were sinning. Kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Unbelievable testimony from Jodi Arias. Talking about her sexual relationship with the man she ultimately admits she killed. Claiming now she killed Travis in self-defense. That he was sexually abusing her. That he baptized her into the Mormon faith and then hours later coerced her into anal sex arguing that was ok, even though they had just taken a vow of chastity. Is she inadvertently giving the jurors her motive for murdering him?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: He called me a skank. He called me Pollyanna. He called me porn star.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was he treating you as a girlfriend in front of these people and not in front of others? Is that what you`re telling us?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he introduce you to them as his girlfriend?

ARIAS: No. I was kind of just a friend. I didn`t feel very good.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s debate it with our legal panel. Is Jodi inadvertently giving jurors her motive for murdering Travis?

We`ll start with Tanya Acker, attorney out of Los Angeles.

TANYA ACKER, ATTONREY: I think Jane, that so much of her testimony is a distraction. This case is not about Mormons, sexual deviancy -- by the way there are a lot of faiths and a lot of people who try to avoid intercourse by doing exactly what it is Travis is accused of doing.

She sounds like somebody who`s simply angry because this guy didn`t treat her well and it is not a motive for murder. I`ve heard nothing that rises to the level of abuse. I`ve heard nothing that suggests that she was in imminent danger.

ADAM SWICKLE, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nothing that`s abusive? The sexual abuse -- I can`t believe I`m sitting here listening to people minimize the sexual abuse. All the things she went through. I think her testimony --

STACEY HONOWITZ, FLORIDA PROSECUTOR: What did she go through?

SWICKLE: -- is absolutely helping her because remember the defense is going to call experts, those experts are going to opine that the conduct and the abuse and the control that this man had over her is exactly like that of a battered wife. Like I said before, this is psychological abuse. This is just as powerful as any physical abuse.

HONOWITZ: What kind of abuse -- she kept going to him. She kept going to him. Did you forget that?

SWICKLE: That`s what a battered wife does.

HONOWITZ: She wasn`t with him.

SWICKLE: You know that, Stacey, you know that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: One at a time. Stacey your turn.

HONOWITZ: This was not a cult. She wasn`t living under the auspices of Jim Jones or someone having a gun to her head and forced her to have sex. She was in a relationship. He treated her like crap. Like a lot of girls get treated. They call their girlfriends and they go, this guy`s a you know what, I can`t stand him. They don`t go to the house with a shotgun and a knife and kill the guy. And that`s exactly what we have here.

SWICKLE: When you`re sexually abused, you do. When you`re sexually abused, you do.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. Evangeline -- Evangeline Gomez.

EVANGELINE GOMEZ, ATTORNEY: Thank you, Jane. This woman has a demonstrated history of not being able to get out of relationships. With Mr. Juarez, after he threatened to kill her family members and he hit her the day after.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Allegedly.

GOMEZ: Why did she stay? She said I couldn`t leave. The same with Travis -- she couldn`t leave. Listen, Jane, honestly --

HONOWITZ: How do you not leave? You get in your car and you drive away. That`s how you leave.

GOMEZ: She had been -- her mind has been made mush. That is part of being a victim of domestic violence.

HONOWITZ: Oh my God. Oh please.

GOMEZ: As a prosecutor, you should know that.

HONOWITZ: I`m a prosecutor. I have plenty of women that come in my office --

GOMEZ: Exactly. And you should know that.

HONOWITZ: -- wait a second. That are in relationships that come in my office and they say, wait a second, he forced me to have sex last night. I said, is he your boyfriend? Yes he is. That`s a true person that said I`m abused. She comes to my office and she files a police report. What did this girl do? She kept going back --

GOMEZ: Not all --

SWICKLE: You have these exact same arguments --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hold on everybody. Please -- ok. So, how different is that, though, Stacey, from what she tells -- if you can believe her -- that she gets baptized, she`s under his sway, this spiritual superior who baptizes her. And then hours later, he says it`s ok to have anal sex even though we just took a vow of chastity because it`s not vaginal sex. And she claims it was painful.

Where do you draw the distinction there between the example that you just used of a woman coming in saying my brother forced me into sex and this?

HONOWITZ: "And forced me into sex" and there`s medical evidence that he forced her or hit her. This guy, she should have gone to the church and went to the elder and said I think it`s a violation of Mormonism. He told me we`re not supposed to have sex --

SWICKLE: That`s not what abused people do.

HONOWITZ: That`s what it is.

(CROSSTALK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: One at a time. One at a time.

(CROSSTALK)

SWICKLE: That`s not what an abused person does --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Let`s go to Adam.

SWICKLE: -- that has got the same symptoms as a battered wife. They go back to the relationship.

Stacey, you`ve argued this in your cases.

HONOWITZ: That`s exactly right.

SWICKLE: I`ve watched you over and over again. And now you`re flipping the coin on us.

HONOWITZ: Where do you see this? Where is the mental abuse in all this? Where do you see any mental abuse? I didn`t like the anal sex this time. Did you hear her say that?

(CROSSTALK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hold on. Ok.

I wish I had my gavel but I don`t. Listen, I want to bring in --

SWICKLE: If this girl was abused, let`s face the facts. She was abused --

(CROSSTALK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: -- this is a very, very interesting debate, but Patrick Mason, you are an expert in Mormon religion and in religion. You`re chair of the department of religion at Claremont Graduate University and chair of Mormon Studies.

Is religion the missing factor here? If somebody baptizes you, psychologically, do they gain a hold on you that another boyfriend or lover would not have? In the act of baptizing her, does he get a power over her? Psychologically and emotionally that he would not otherwise have?

PATRICK MASON, CLAREMONT GRADUATE UNIVERSITY: Well, obviously, I can`t speak to her psychology or what she thinks. But there`s no mystical hold that he holds over her. Certainly that`s usually a relationship that`s a special relationship that you have with -- between the person who baptizes you and the convert. And usually that`s a very close and sacred relationship.

There`s no kind of mystical power. There`s no official ecclesiastical power that that person would have over you. It`s simply a personal relationship like any other.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. On the other side of the break, we`ll ask that same question of our sexual experts and relationship therapist, Simone Bienne.

Stay right there.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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ARIAS: Gets a hotel room, I show up. We hang out. We have sex. Not really there presently. He`s not mentally present. I`m getting a lot of attention but only while we`re engaging in sexual activity. And then we check out and he takes off.

And I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute, sort of.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: He didn`t leave welts as often as my mom. She also used a belt. Her blows felt a lot worse actually.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did your mom`s beatings with a wooden spoon -- did they continue in high school as well?

ARIAS: They continued for a short time but I think as I turned 16, 17, she didn`t -- I don`t recall her carrying the wooden spoon around. She would just start grabbing whatever was available like a hair brush. She had acrylic nails so sometimes she would grab me and dig her nails into my skin.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s Jodi Arias saying that she was abused and beaten by her mother and her father. Simone Bienne, relationship therapist, we know that women who were beaten as children often seek out abusive relationships to re-enact it subconsciously, to try to make it turn out better. Will the defense take that and meld it to the abuse they claim, Jodi suffered at the hands of Travis Alexander?

SIMONE BIENNE, RELATIONSHIP THERAPIST: Jane, you make a really good point. Yes, this all plays out. You try and change the ending. But the point is that so many of us have been through this and tried to change the ending. We don`t go and murder the people, who have abused us, and that is the point.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: No. I get that. I get your point. But I`m trying to establish what the defense is going to do. They`re going to bring in domestic violence experts. They`re going to bring in a psychologist. We`re trying to get a preview and try to understand the strategy. How could it tie together?

BIENNE: It can tie together in the sense that it could make her feel so murderous, like you say, it gives her the motive. But we`ve got to remember, she kept going back again and again. So each time she goes back, she becomes more murderous, more rageful.

It sounds like to me it was premeditated. She went a week before to go and get the gun. This is a woman who was so dead inside that, sadly, any kind of attention, whether it was abusive or not, was filling up that dead space. That doesn`t mean you go and murder somebody.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And you know what; there`s a phrase for that -- negative attention. If people can`t get positive attention and they have that hole inside, they`ll go for negative attention. At least it`s attention.

Compare and contrast. Two stories Jodi told. One about those ninjas that came in and killed Travis. She`s since recanted that. But listen to the comparisons here. That`s the one story.

Then there`s one about a former boyfriend she claims, it`s her claim, tried to strangle her. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: He said, if you ever, ever, ever say anything about this -- he said they`ll do to my family the same way and me.

He started strangling me. And just for a few seconds. And then he let go. I almost passed out. I fell on my knees. I said my family would be very upset if they found out what you just did. And then he began to describe in detail how he would kill each member of my family.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jean Casarez, "In Session" correspondent -- you`re out there in Phoenix. I mean these are two different stories. And yet this theme of oh, I`m going to kill every member of your family -- a little suspicious?

JEAN CASAREZ, CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION": Yes, yes, I mean, there`s a pattern. The facts are so similar. And you know what her response was during her testimony when she talked about this boyfriend Bobby Juarez that was strangling her and then said he would kill every member of his family. She said, "I got a little upset." That was the response to that.

And furthermore, if you were reliving that, wouldn`t you be emotional?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, and, again, just as Travis Alexander is not here to defend himself, this boyfriend, he`s not around in this courtroom to stand up and say, hey, she`s lying. Your honor, she`s lying. I mean, look at the lives that are being impacted by this. It`s outrageous.

Let`s go to the phone lines. Lisa, Illinois you question or thought - - Lisa, Illinois.

LISA, ILLINOIS (via telephone): Hi, Jane. Thank you for taking my call. Jane, I just wanted to mention, I hear Jodi make reference to Travis said that anal sex was accepted in the Mormon religion but vaginal was not. She was also visited by missionaries. Had she not read the Book of Mormon prior to changing her religion?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, we are very honored to have with us an expert in the Mormon religion with us tonight -- Patrick Mason. Does the Book of Mormon have any explicit sex talk in it that would give anybody a clear path about something so graphic?

MASON: No, it doesn`t. I mean, the Book of Mormon does talk very strongly about the importance of chastity but it`s not a sex manual. It doesn`t talk about or differentiate between different kinds of sex. And so generally that would be outlined, you know, if you went and talked to a bishop or a priesthood leader, you know, or some other leader of the church and some other friends who have a lot of experience in the church. She could have gotten that kind of information. But it wouldn`t come directly from the Book of Mormon.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. More on the other side. We`ve got a lot to cover. Stay right there.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: Those are pictures of Travis` erection.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And when did you -- or how did you come into possession of these photos?

ARIAS: They were sent to me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How?

ARIAS: Via his phone.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Time for our "Pet o` the Day". Send your pet pics to hlntv.com/jane. Dutch, oh, so handsome. Jillian Rose -- very distinguished indeed. And Prinny, oh, you make me grinny, Prinny. And Steve, I like that, simple and calm -- almost like he could run for office.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Shannon Hogan is writing a book on this case. It is called "Picture Perfect". Thanks for joining us, Shanna. You know, you`ve been there. You`ve seen the prosecutor. How frustrated do you think he is over this long-running direct of Jodi Arias?

SHANNA HOGAN, AUTHOR, "PICTURE PERFECT" (via telephone): You know, he is just waiting to pounce. You see him scribbling notes furiously. He can`t wait. He just can`t wait to get at her. And he is going to skewer her.


And an interesting thing I found out about was he was the prosecutor on another death penalty case, Arizona`s -- one of their only three women on Arizona`s death row and that woman testified on the stand for nine days. So he sat through this entire thing with an entire self-defense claim and he got a death penalty conviction in that case.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And you are looking at the prosecutor, Juan Martinez. I`ve seen what looks like a little frustration. I mean just sitting there and having to listen to all this and not really be able to respond because it is a death penalty case. So the judge is going to give this defendant a lot of leeway to tell her side of the story. You don`t want to put somebody potentially to death without giving them that opportunity which is one of the reasons why she`s allowed to go on and on and on without the judge saying move on.

More on the other side.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Round robin with our legal team. Given her taking the stand for so long, is the death penalty now unlikely? Starting with Tanya Acker.

ACKER: No, I don`t think it is. I think the jury`s not going to buy big parts of her story and I think there`s a big conclusion to be drawn that she killed this guy in cold blood.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Stacey Honowitz?

HONOWITZ: I think it`s still there. It`s premeditated. The story`s a bunch of you know what, and I think the death penalty is there and deserving.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Adam?

SWICKLE: Absolutely unlikely. Remember it only takes one juror, one juror only and there are lots of lesser counts that this jury can compromise on.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Evangeline.

GOMEZ: The prosecutor`s case is in shambles. Don`t know if he can prove without a reasonable doubt. I think they`re going to let her go.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, wow, what a wide range of opinion. We`re all over this case. We continue to analyze it tomorrow. Join us right here.

Nancy next.

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NANCY GRACE

Jodi Arias Gives Explicit Details

Aired February 7, 2013 - 20:00   ET


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The defense calls Jodi Arias.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you solemnly swear the testimony you`re about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

JODI ARIAS, CHARGED WITH MURDER: Yes, I do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4th, 2008?

ARIAS: Yes, I did.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why?

ARIAS: The simple answer is that he attacked me and I defended myself.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said that no jury would convict you.

ARIAS: No jury is going to convict me.

At the time, I had plans to commit suicide. So I was extremely confident that no jury would convict me because I didn`t expect any of you to be here.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, raw and uncensored, Jodi Arias in her own words. Arias spends day after day on the stand under oath describing a trail of men and sex encounters, going from one guy to the next. She jumps from one religion to the next, witchcraft, Hindu, Buddhist, Mormonism. She details jealous confrontations with other women, appearing soft-spoken and meek on the stand. It`s in stark contrast to the shocking and brutal slashing death of her lover.

She then goes on to outline repeat sex encounters with Travis Alexander, the murder victim, even on the same day he baptizes her in the Mormon church, wearing her church baptismal clothes. But that`s just the tip of the iceberg.

In painstaking detail, Arias describes the sex relationship between her and murder victim Travis Alexander. The key question remains, does all this talk of sex help or hurt the defense of Jodi Arias?

Take a listen as Arias describes in detail her first sex encounters with Travis. Let me warn you, this is graphic.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We were laying on the beds. We were side by side facing each other, kissing. That`s what I mean by intimate at that point.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was he touching any particular parts of your body, or were you just kissing?

ARIAS: I don`t really recall that at first. It began to lead to more.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what do you mean by more?

ARIAS: Well, I don`t really recall how it happened, but he began to remove my clothes and he began to perform oral sex on me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And was this comfortable? You mentioned earlier that you had a certain level of discomfort with this -- with being naked. Were you uncomfortable while this oral sex was going on?

ARIAS: I was -- I was uncomfortable. It was dark. I mean, the lights were off, so, like, that might have made it a little bit more -- I mean, a little more tolerable. But it was -- I don`t know. I mean, it -- he -- he knew what he was doing for sure, but it was just -- felt like too much, too soon. And I mean, I couldn`t exactly rewind at that point, you know?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not? Did you -- did you voice your displeasure with the events?

ARIAS: No, I can`t say there was displeasure. But it was uncomfortable. Does that make sense?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, let me rephrase my question then. Did you voice your discomfort to him?

ARIAS: No. I didn`t want to give him that impression.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Objection, beyond the scope.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sustained.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not, Ms. Arias?

ARIAS: Why not what? I`m sorry.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why didn`t you voice your discomfort?

ARIAS: I didn`t want him to have that impression. I wanted to -- I wanted to at least appear like I was enjoying it as much as he seemed to be.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you were attempting to give him the impression that you were enjoying things.

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And why were you interested in doing that?

ARIAS: I guess -- I guess it would have seemed to me to be unattractive for -- for me to say anything different or anything negative about the experience.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happened after he performed oral sex upon you?

ARIAS: He asked for reciprocation.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how did that request make you feel?

ARIAS: At that point, I had taken it that far. I was kind of glad he was done and I was just willing to reciprocate at that point.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And did you perform oral sex upon him at that time?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he (DELETED)?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where?

ARIAS: In my mouth.

We both were trying to figure out a place where we could go. So I don`t know why, but I was wanting to go with him also to find some place. So we went in our respective cars. We drove to a park near Starbucks. It was between my house and Starbucks. And it was the middle of a school day, so nobody was there. There was a parking lot there. And we pulled up into the parking lot. And he left Napoleon in the car with the air-conditioner on and the windows rolled up, and he came into my car and sat in the passenger seat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And after he sat in the passenger seat, you mentioned that he expressed his -- that he was, to use your words, horny, right?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When he got in the car, did he voice or convey an interest in engaging in some sort of sexual activity with you in the car?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What sort of activity, to your understanding, was he interested in?

ARIAS: Oral sex.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And so we`re clear, was that oral sex that you were to be performing on him or him performing on you?

ARIAS: He wanted to receive it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you comply?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why?

ARIAS: I felt -- I felt an attraction to him and -- the feeling was mutual, and I wanted to -- I just wanted to -- I don`t know. I wanted to do what he wanted to do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did oral sex take place in your car?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he (DELETED)?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where?

ARIAS: I don`t remember, actually.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. How did you feel after that encounter?

ARIAS: I don`t -- I don`t recall feeling really bad, maybe just a little deflated. He wouldn`t -- he refused to kiss me afterward because he said it was gross. I guess -- maybe that`s because I was just performing oral sex, but that`s what he said. And so he kissed me on the cheek and left.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell us about Aaron Burke (ph). Did you share one hotel room, or did he each have your own room?

ARIAS: We had one motel room.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... arriving at the hotel room, and I believe your words were making out with Mr. Alexander, right?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. If you could, just kind of describe for us -- and this was within minutes of you arriving, to our understanding?

ARIAS: Yes, it happened pretty quickly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Just begin again describing what happened during this makeout session, as you describe it.

ARIAS: You mean, like, in detail?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

ARIAS: Well, he opened the door for me because he had the room key. And he took my hand and walked me over to the bed, sort of, kind of hold me, but walked me. And I went willingly, of course.

We started kissing. It got a little more intense and a little more passionate, and then soon we were both nude on the bed, and there were certain things that he said that -- well, like, it`s -- it`s not -- I don`t know. We didn`t have intercourse, so to speak. There was oral sex that weekend.

But that particular day, we did what I guess he called -- at that time he called it grinding. So it`s kind of like, you know, just being together but not actually having intercourse. That`s something that -- that I guess a lot of Mormons do, but they`re not supposed to. There are different terms for it, like the "Provo push." That`s a Mormon implication (ph) because it`s in Utah. This is what I learned. So...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Objection (INAUDIBLE)

ARIAS: I`m sorry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sustained.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, besides the grinding and the oral sex, you said you didn`t have intercourse during this encounter, this first encounter?

ARIAS: Not vaginal intercourse.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you have anal intercourse?

ARIAS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just oral sex?


ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After this first encounter where there was oral sex -- and were you giving or receiving the oral sex?

ARIAS: Both.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How many sexual interactions did you have with Mr. Alexander over this time in Aaronburg (ph)?

ARIAS: I would say three. I mean, total, if you just -- you know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And these were all instances of sexual -- or excuse me, oral sex?

ARIAS: No. Like, the first night, it was the grinding and the next night was oral sex.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And what was the third encounter?

ARIAS: It was oral sex also.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

ARIAS: It was before we left.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Now, to hear Arias tell it, she felt like a, quote, "prostitute" and a, quote, "used piece of toilet paper" during her relationship with Travis, describing in graphic detail her sex experiences with the man she eventually kills.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell us how you felt leaving Aaronburg that Saturday morning and driving back.

ARIAS: Well, when we parted, there wasn`t a lot of affection, so I kind of felt disappointed, not upset, just kind of bummed out a little bit. I don`t know, kind of felt stupid.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stupid how?

ARIAS: I was replaying the weekend -- or it was -- it was my weekend. I was replaying that weekend, and it just -- I kind of wished things had gone a little bit differently.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean by that?

ARIAS: Maybe just -- I wished that we had had more of a connection, a meeting of minds, rather -- well, I didn`t -- I didn`t dislike the physical part, but it seemed like it was missing an important element.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What important element was missing?

ARIAS: The emotion, and like I said, just the mental connection, some kind of being on the same page, so to speak.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you didn`t feel -- as you were leaving, you didn`t feel any kind of emotional connection or like you had grown closer with Mr. Alexander. Is that what you`re telling us?

ARIAS: I didn`t feel like we had grown closer. He seemed more distant.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did you feel in retrospect about the sexual behavior you engaged in with Mr. Alexander? Did you feel OK? Was it still too far, too soon?

ARIAS: It didn`t feel like too much, too soon anymore because over that month, we had really gotten to know each other really well. I developed feelings for him, and it just seemed -- it was confusing, though, even though it wasn`t -- it was a little confusing, the sex.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean? What was confusing about it?

ARIAS: Well, I mean, I guess just where the line should be drawn, I guess.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what do you mean by line? Your line, the vow of chastity? What kind of line are you speaking of?

ARIAS: Well, to me, sex is sex. There are just different ways to have sex. And it seemed like -- it seemed like Travis was kind of -- I don`t know how to put it. But it just seemed like he sort of had, like, the Bill Clinton version, whereas over here, it seemed like, you know, oral and anal sex were also sex to me, but not for him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the line that you`re talking about, that line of demarcation, really sounds like that that dealt with the vow of chastity. Is that accurate?

ARIAS: Yes. Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you were reflecting back on the weekend on your way back to Palm Desert, did you consider your actions -- and your own, not his, but your own actions as it relates to that vow of chastity?

ARIAS: I considered it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how did you feel about that?

ARIAS: Well, I trusted what I was told by him, so I didn`t feel like we were sinning. I just felt -- I felt a little bit -- I hate to put it this way, but I felt a little bit used. But I -- I knew I had gone there on my own, willingly so.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean, though, that you felt used?

ARIAS: Well, you know, he gets a hotel room. I show up. We hang out. We have sex. He`s not really there presently, like, he`s not mentally present. I`m getting a lot of attention, but only while we`re engaging in sexual activity. And then we check out and he takes off.

And I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute, sort of, which I felt -- I didn`t feel very good. I kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper. I don`t know. It didn`t -- I didn`t continue feeling that way. Just shortly thereafter for a little while I did.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: When we come back, did sex make Jodi Arias feel so bad she sought revenge?

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Friends and family of Travis Alexander visibly distraught in court as the defense shows Jodi Arias explicit photos of victim Travis Alexander. But how does this all fit into a murder case? And did these sex encounters with Travis make Arias feel so, quote, "bad," she seeks revenge?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Be so kind as to take a look at those. Do you recognize those?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are those pictures of?

ARIAS: Those are pictures of Travis`s erection.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And when did you or how did you come into possession of these photos?

ARIAS: They were sent to me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How?

ARIAS: Via his phone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Via a text message or a picture message?

ARIAS: Picture message.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

ARIAS: His phone and my phone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you want to reciprocate?

ARIAS: Not -- no, I didn`t, but I knew he wanted to, so I was a little bit conflicted, but I said no.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did he react to your refusal to send him a picture?

ARIAS: He -- he felt it should be fair, kind of like that. Like, he didn`t say that, but he had been requesting photos for a while at this point and...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was he requesting photos of?

ARIAS: Naked pictures.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of you?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of particular body parts, or did he make any specific requests?

ARIAS: No, he didn`t specify body parts that I remember.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Up to the point in time when you received this picture -- these pictures of his erection, you had not sent him any pictures, is that right?

ARIAS: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Up next, in graphic detail, Jodi Arias outlines how her relationship with Travis intensifies.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. I could feel an erection.

Those are pictures of Travis`s erection.

-- began to have anal sex with me.

I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute.

The first night, it was the grinding, and the next night was oral sex.

I felt a little bit used.

I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute.

Kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.

-- through clenched teeth, Stop, stop, stop, and he stopped.

It became too painful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The vow of chastity.

ARIAS: No premarital sex, that vaginal sex was off-limits, and everything else was more or less OK.

It was a little confusing, the sex.

Sex is sex.

He sort of had, like, the Bill Clinton version.

Oral sex and anal sex were also sex to me, but not for him. He finished by (CENSORED) on my back. Called me a skank. Called me Polyanna, porn star.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Tonight raw and uncensored, Jodi Arias in her words. Arias spends day after day on the stand describing a trail of men. Sex encounters.

What we are seeing here is a character assassination of the murder victim, Travis Alexander. Let`s don`t lose sight of the way he died. A painful death. Slashed 29 times. Shot in the head. He crawls away and she stabs him another nine times in the back. With a butcher knife. Now, Arias already testified she`s had sex with Travis Alexander three times.

At this point, it`s November 2006, the day before Thanksgiving. And Arias claims the frequency of sex begins to escalate.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he ever express a desire during this weekend to engage in anal sex with you?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And did he, over the course of that weekend in Ehrenberg, express a desire to have vaginal sex with you?

ARIAS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But it appears, based on what you`ve told us, you declined his desire to have anal sex. Is that correct?

ARIAS: Yes, he was -- yes. I did. I just -- yes. I didn`t -- we did not have anal sex.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. In expressing his desire for that, was he -- that is what something he did repeatedly, or is that something that just came up one time?

ARIAS: It didn`t just come up one time. He wasn`t overly persistent about it, but it was somewhat repeatedly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Were you baptized before or after Thanksgiving?

ARIAS: After Thanksgiving. I think it was on the 22nd that year. Well, the 26th would have been on a Sunday so whatever the previous Thursday was.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. This meeting then was at your home in Palm Desert?

ARIAS: Yes. I think it was the day before on the Wednesday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. The day before Thanksgiving?

ARIAS: Yes, right before Thanksgiving. So probably Wednesday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And where did you wind up meeting him?

ARIAS: He came to my house with his dog.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Was Darrell still living in the house at this time?

ARIAS: I think Darrell was still living in the house but he was at work.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. So tell us about what happened when he arrives at your home.

ARIAS: Well, this was the first time he was -- he had he seen my house. So I just walked him around the property. Briefly. It`s not a big property, but he wanted to see the pool. He -- his dog jumped in the pool and sank right to the bottom. So it was scary. I guess pugs don`t swim. So he jumped in with his clothes and everything on to save his dog and I took him and we put him inside so he won`t do that again.

So Travis was soaking wet at that point. So he took a hot shower because in November, the pool is freezing. And I threw his clothes in the drier so that they would dry off and warm up, and we were intimate again. And then we said good-bye.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said intimate. How were you intimate?

ARIAS: I don`t recall exactly. It would have been oral sex or the grinding again. That`s all we were doing at that point.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. During this particular encounter, did he again ask you to have anal sex with him?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But no anal sex took place during that -- on that day?

ARIAS: No, it was more like teasing, and I said no.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. After -- did he (CENSORED)?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And after he (CENSORED) he left?

ARIAS: Shortly thereafter.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did the subject of the encounter, the anal sex you just described, did that come up in your conversations?

ARIAS: He wrote me a letter about it. We didn`t discuss it directly on the phone. We had discussed things of that nature in the past.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you ever voice your displeasure with the incident to him?

ARIAS: Only when I said --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Objection, hearsay.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s the declarant, Judge.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Overruled. You may answer.

ARIAS: I kind of just said through clenched teeth, stop, stop, stop, and he stopped. So I think he got the impression that it was not pleasurable at that point, but I never said anything about it after that of a negative nature.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you never advised him that you felt like, as I think you said, a used piece of toilet paper? You never advised him --

ARIAS: No. I wouldn`t have told him that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would not have, is that what you said?

ARIAS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not?

ARIAS: Because I don`t think that would have made him feel very good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about how you felt?

ARIAS: I was dealing with that. You know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Next, Jodi Arias reveals what happens the same day she was baptized by Travis Alexander there in the Mormon Church.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: As the defense claims Jodi Arias, the victim of abuse, the jury hears graphic language from Jodi Arias on the stand revealing on the same day she`s baptized into the Mormon Church by Alexander, she has anal sex with him in her church baptismal clothes. Listen to just how that day unfolds. Warning again, this is graphic testimony.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did you feel that day knowing that you were going to be baptized before the ceremony?

ARIAS: I was a little nervous because I didn`t know what the process entailed, but I was excited.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell us what happened when you got back to the house.

ARIAS: We got back to the house. His car was parked at my house so we took my car to church so we got back to the house. Went inside and we hugged. Words were exchanged.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happened after you hugged him and words were exchanged?

ARIAS: We began to kiss and things got intimate again.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was that place of intimacy a place you were thinking about going on this spiritual day?

ARIAS: Not how it ultimately happened. No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean how it ultimately happened? Describe for us what happened after you and Mr. Alexander started kissing that day.

ARIAS: Well, we were in my bedroom. We were not on the bed but we were standing next to it, and we were kissing, and I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. The kissing got more passionate, more intense and then he spun me around. And he bent me over the bed and he was just on top of me. I didn`t think anything was -- I thought he was just going to keep kissing me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happened when he bent you over the bed? Were you facedown on the bed or face up?

ARIAS: I was face down. My head was turned to the side.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what happened?

ARIAS: His hands were wandering and he lifted up my skirt and he pulled down my underwear and he was pressing against me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean pressing against you?

ARIAS: His whole body.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he have an erection?

ARIAS: I could feel an erection.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what happened? Next?

ARIAS: He unzipped his pants and I guess he pulled them down. I didn`t see, but he -- he began to have anal sex with me and --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said that he had anal sex with you. Based on what you said before, this wasn`t something that you were expecting to have?

ARIAS: No, not that night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this something that you wanted to happen?

ARIAS: Well, I can`t say I wanted to, but I didn`t stop him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When he entered you, you said you didn`t stop him. Did you say anything? Did you tell him no?

ARIAS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was it pleasurable for you physically?

ARIAS: That time, it was painful somewhat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, given that it was painful, why didn`t you tell him no?

ARIAS: Eventually, I did. I probably would have just let him continue, but it was -- became too painful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why do you say you probably would have just let him continue?

ARIAS: Because I knew that is what he had been wanting for -- for a while. And I just -- I trusted him. I had a lot of trust, and he -- I just went with what he was -- with his agenda I guess I could say.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This agenda you describe him having and this pain you were experiencing, did this go on for several minutes before you told him no?

ARIAS: I don`t think it went on too long. Not several minutes. Maybe a few.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And from what you`re telling us, it sounds like the only reason that you told him no or told him to stop was the pain, not your lack of interest in this activity. Is that right?

ARIAS: That`s pretty accurate. I mean, I wasn`t looking forward to it, but definitely, pain I had to. I had to have him stop. Otherwise I probably would just have continued.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Otherwise what?

ARIAS: I probably would have continued if it weren`t for that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. After he stopped, was that the end of the intimacy that day?

ARIAS: He -- he finished by (CENSORED) on my back or somewhere like on me. And then we were finished. And then shortly -- I mean, I think we parted ways. We kissed and embraced and he left.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: When we return, the merry-go-round of men in Jodi Arias` life.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: They come and they go. Jodi Arias testifies about the many men she`s been with and had sex with. Going from one guy to the next, now that`s not a crime but one narrative remains consistent. Nothing is ever Jodi Arias` fault.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: Bobby was like my first true love.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. So why at this point in time were you still open to the idea of a romantic and potentially sexual relationship with a man who had choked you and thrown you down as you described?

ARIAS: Well, like I said, I considered those incidents isolated and not a pattern of his. And I still loved him. And I -- he still loved me. I didn`t want to hurt him. And I didn`t want to -- I don`t -- I just -- we were -- it just felt natural. I had been with him for some years. He was my first love, being with him -- whether it was good or bad -- it just felt natural. And it was what I was accustomed to.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And at this point in time Matt McCartney is your boyfriend?

ARIAS: Yes. Well, I don`t remember us making it official. But we became romantic and then it -- yes, we were boyfriend/girlfriend.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This may go without saying because you lived together. But was this also a sexual relationship?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you love Matt?

ARIAS: Very much, yes. I was in love with him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know that probably it`s hard to quantify, but was this a serious relationship at this point in time?

ARIAS: Yes. We weren`t like heavily discussing marriage but we were talking about children and what kind of life, though, we would have if we decided to have a family.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So was marriage on the table so to speak?

ARIAS: Yes. It was a future possibility.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. How long in total in terms of your relationship were you together with Matt?

ARIAS: I think approximately a year and eight months.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was that the resort where you met Darryl Brewer?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You applied for a job and were interview bid Darryl Brewer, is that right?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Right. And you said just a few moments ago you said eventually you got to the point where you fell in love with Darryl.

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there -- is there a moment in time -- was there a point in time you can describe for us when you knew that was the case?

ARIAS: I don`t remember the case -- I mean the exact moment.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Coming up, more disturbing testimony from murder suspect Jodi Arias.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: We remember American hero, Marine Corporal Joshua Dumaw, 23, Spokane Valley, Washington. Purple Heart. Navy Achievement Medal. Parents Jennifer and Andy. Brother Kyle, sister Abby. Widow Kaylynn. Son Bode.

Joshua Dumaw, American hero.

Jodi Arias doesn`t only go from one guy to the next, she jumps from one religion to the next. Witchcraft, Voodoo, Wicca, Hinduism, Mormonism. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were talking -- we were at a point in your life when you were about ready to move in with Matt McCartney. Do you recall?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where we left off -- OK. And was Matt working?

ARIAS: Yes. He was a manager at Subway.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Tell us what life was like and how was the relationship. How did he treat you?


ARIAS: I`d say that period of my life was probably one of the best times in my life. He treated me very well. He was very kind, he was very respectful, he was very spiritual. When I first met him, he -- I was a little bit leery of some of the things he was into. I saw some books on witchcraft and I thought, ooh, but he explained to me that he was just thinking that he had gone to church most of his life. And his -- he and his family are very much into the Native American culture. And so he asked her about the Native Americans and he was told they went to hell because they didn`t know Jesus Christ.

So that turned him off to Christianity. And he decided to explore other religions. So about the time that I met him he was not practicing Wicca, but he was studying it. And -- so he had kind of explained it a little bit to me so that it wasn`t so -- I guess frightened, suspicious or superstitious maybe of the religion.

And so I never practiced it myself. But I think he did prior to us getting together. And by the time I met him he was sort of moving on to other -- like studying Eastern philosophy and Hinduism and Buddhism and that like of thing, too. So, I mean, our relationship took a lot of different spiritual turns and twists.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This might be a good point to back up a little bit in terms of -- because you mentioned -- and I`ll use the word spirituality, and/or religious beliefs. At the time that you met Matt, where were you spiritually? Was there a particular religion you were a member of? Could you describe that for us?

ARIAS: I was not a member of any denomination. I considered myself Christian. I did not attend church. And I didn`t obey all the commandments that Christianity espouses.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Everyone, thank you for being with us tonight. I`ll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern, and until then, good night, friend.

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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Is Jodi Arias Lying on the Stand?

Aired February 8, 2013 - 19:00   ET


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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Tonight, brand-new details in the Jodi Arias murder trial as Jodi testifies in graphic detail about her sexual relationship with Travis Alexander. Who is the mystery man sitting on Jodi`s side of the courtroom? And could a burglary be connected to this trial? Bizarre developments.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Tonight, does Jodi Arias have a new boyfriend? And if so, how did she make the love connection from behind bars?

Is Jodi spinning a web of lies on the stand? She`s lied before, once claiming masked ninjas killed Travis. Is she at it again, selling her story of victimization to the jury? Tonight, we`ll show you two different versions of stories Jodi`s told on the witness stand. As the prosecution gears up to grill her on cross, will they set a trap for Jodi? We`ll debate it with our expert panel tonight.

JODI ARIAS, MURDER DEFENDANT: Kissing got more passionate, more intense, and then he spun me around. He bent me over the bed.

JUAN MARTINEZ, PROSECUTOR: She`s the one that did the stabbing. She`s the one that slit his throat. She`s the one that shot him.

ARIAS: Because I knew that it`s what he had been wanting for -- for a while. I trusted him.

JENNIFER WILLMOTT, JODI`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: The more that Travis distanced himself from Jodi to his friends, the easier it was for him to keep control of her and to keep for his own sexual needs.

ARIAS: I kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did Travis ever call you names?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

ARIAS: He called me a skank. Called me Pollyanna. He called me porn star.

KIRK NURMI, JODI`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Did he provide you with any Valentine`s gifts?

ARIAS: A shirt that he had been joking about getting me for some months. The pink shorts. There was some other thing beneath the shorts. They were boys` underwear. They were Spider-Man underwear.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, as Jodi Arias takes jurors step by X-rated step through her sexually-charged relationship with Travis Alexander, we`re learning she already has a new man in her life, visiting her behind bars and in the courtroom.

Also tonight, new reports that a detailed psychological profile of Jodi Arias was mysteriously stolen from a key prosecution witness. Is this just an eerie coincidence?

Good evening. I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell.

The beautiful 32-year-old photographer is accused of stabbing her boyfriend 29 times, slitting Travis Alexander`s throat ear to ear and shooting him in the face. Now she`s trying to prove she did all of that in self-defense.

Jodi has her supporters including this mystery man, Brian Carr. We`re learning he`s been in court almost every single day. He has listened, along with the jury, to Jodi`s triple-X-rated trail of Alexander baptizing her into the Mormon Church and then allegedly, according to Jodi, pressuring her into kinky sex just hours later.

We have to warn you this is graphic, but it`s what Jodi said in open court, and it`s central to the defense claim that Jodi was sexually degraded and abused by Travis Alexander.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We were kissing, and I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. The kissing got more passionate and more intense, and then he spun me around. He bent me over the bed. He began to have anal sex with me.

NURMI: Did you say anything? Did you tell him no?

ARIAS: No.

NURMI: Was it pleasurable for you physically?

ARIAS: That time it was painful.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And tonight, a very bizarre twist in this case involving a crucial rebuttal witness for the state. Take a look at this video from Arizona`s KSAZ. Reports are the home of a key prosecution psychologist who evaluated Jodi was burglarized, and a laptop with Jodi`s psychological profile allegedly stolen. We can`t independently confirm that, but if so, how might that impact this trial?

Could this witness testify about Jodi`s claim she was sexually degraded by Travis and that Jodi was planning to commit suicide when she bragged a jury would, quote, "never convict her." Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: My plan was to commit suicide. So I was extremely confident that no jury would convict me, because I didn`t expect any of you to be here. I didn`t expect to be here. I was very confident that no juror would convict me, because I planned to be dead. Probably the most bitter words I`ll ever eat.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Straight out to Radar Online`s Alexis Tereszcuk with some breaking news. What do you know about this mysterious new man?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADAR ONLINE: Jodi has what seems to be a new boyfriend. They met a few years ago online. He has been visiting her in jail for over a year now. They have frequent visits, and he says that they never talk about the sad things. They never talk about Travis Alexander and his murder. He says he keeps it light and upbeat, and he says that she is the sweetest, nicest person you will ever meet. He doesn`t understand - - he said if everybody could meet her they would know what he knows.

And he`s been talking about her testimony, and he says that she is embarrassed. All the graphic details, the testimony you`re playing, apparently she`s been so embarrassed that she`s been saying that in open court.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hmm. Fascinating stuff. And I have to say that our producer managed to reach this man, and he just told us minutes ago he claims that he has no romantic interest in Jodi Arias. He says they are very close friends. He said they met, as you said, Alexis, through social media, Facebook, when they realized they had mutual friends on Facebook. And he says he visits her weekly in jail. This is an absolutely fascinating development.

I`ve got to go to Jeff Gardere, clinical psychologist. My gosh, she reportedly has a way with men. There are mostly men on this jury. Now she`s got a guy who is very loyal. He`s not romantically involved with her, but he`s there in court and he`s visiting her, and he`s supporting her. What do you make of it?

JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, it speaks to me that this is yet another instance of seeing Jodi Arias with this personality disorder, dependent personality.

Here she is in the trial of her life, and now she`s involved in another relationship.

And let me just say this very quickly, Jane. This guy may not be intimate with her, but he`s listening to the details of her intimacy, every single detail of her intimacy with someone else. So in some ways, in a very twisted way, that`s an intimacy that he`s sharing with her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: In other words, he`s listening to her talk about her having sex with Travis Alexander...

GARDERE: Exactly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And kinky sex indeed.

GARDERE: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, here`s another bizarre twist. A key prosecution rebuttal witness`s home was robbed, and one of the items reportedly stolen was a laptop containing a secret psychological profile of Jodi Arias.

Take a look at this videotape. You can see police swarming the home here. This video from Arizona`s KSAZ.

I`ve got to go to Shanna Hogan, journalist and author of "Picture Perfect," a book on this case. Is this a wild coincidence? What could be on that profile?

Again, we couldn`t independently confirm details of the story, but my gosh, is it true that the state`s clinical psychologist who evaluated Jodi had her laptop stolen, with Jodi`s psychological profile on it? What are the potential implications, Shanna Hogan?

SHANNA HOGAN, JOURNALIST/AUTHOR (voice-over): Well, multiple reporting sources in Arizona are reporting the same thing, so it seems to be confirmed.

This is a critical prosecution witness. This is someone who evaluated Jodi in jail and put together a psychological profile that she kept on her computer.


We don`t know if the laptop was stolen as part of the case, if the person broke into the house to steal that evidence in the Jodi Arias case, or if the home was just burglarized and that was one of the things taken. We have no idea if there is a backup for this.

But this is a key rebuttal witness that will counteract all of the expert testimony that the defense is going put on saying that Jodi was a victim of domestic violence and had posttraumatic stress syndrome. So it`s very key in this case.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jean Casarez, so many odd things happening, and I know we haven`t been able to independently confirm anything about this burglary. But it seems that with these crazy, big cases you never know what`s going to happen next, and I can answer my question myself.

This huge case is like a runaway freight train, and this is par for the course of what happens in these crazy cases. I saw it with Casey Anthony, Michael Jackson child molestation, O.J. Simpson. Jean Casarez, it seems like it`s just getting a little crazy.

JEAN CASAREZ, TRUTV`S "IN SESSION": And it is too close for comfort, Jane. There`s something very mysterious and strange. And let`s just look at some possibilities, all right?

This laptop -- and we`re talking about Dr. Janeane Dimarte (ph), who is the psychologist, she will be the rebuttal psychologist for the prosecution, extremely important witness. Her report on her laptop, the prosecution would have it.

But what about her work notes? Her work notes. She doesn`t have to give those to anybody. Those are notes that she makes up from assessing Jodi Arias in person, as she has done. Maybe she was going to rely on them for trial. They`re in somebody`s hands, Jane. That`s a fact, if you believe that this burglary took place. And the video from FOX 10 basically confirms it, right? So somebody has notes that are personal to her, I bet, and that`s not good.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow! Joey Jackson, Dana Swickle (ph). We`re going to debate the impact of that starting with Joey Jackson. I mean, again, these mega trials, something crazy always seems to happen and this is Exhibit A, this alleged burglary.

JOEY JACKSON ATTORNEY: Sure. I think, you know what, Jane? Ultimately, I think it doesn`t have an effect, and here`s why. Two quick reasons.

The first reason is, is that anything on that computer would have been given to the prosecutor, and the prosecutor, therefore, has an obligation to turn it over to the defense. So that`s information they`ll have.

The second reason is I don`t think experts will be that important in this case. Why? We know what the defense expert`s going to say. She was abused. She was manipulated. She was controlled. And the rebuttal prosecution expert is going to say the opposite. Therefore, they will cancel each other out.

There`s so much other independent information in this case that establishes guilt that I don`t think this is necessarily relevant.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you know, the first thing that occurred to me, Dana Swickle (ph), what if some of this stuff ends up on the Internet.

DANA SWICKLE (ph): I was just about to say that. I don`t understand how Joey could say that all of this is irrelevant. What all -- what if all of the information gets leaked? What if the psychiatrist`s notes get leaked and then -- and then it goes all over the Internet, all over the news? You could potentially have jurors who could see it by accident. They could be poisoned. It could lead to a mistrial. This is absolutely huge.

JACKSON: I don`t -- I don`t foresee or anticipate that this will lead to a mistrial because mistrials have to be material to her representation and the fact she`s getting a fair trial.

SWICKLE (ph): How could this not be material?

JACKSON: If we`re debating...

SWICKLE (ph): How could this not be material? Joey, wait a second. Wait a second. This is...

JACKSON: I`m trying to...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let him finish. Let him finish. And then we`ll give you a chance.

SWICKLE (ph): This is -- this is the state attorney`s key expert in this particular case, who was going to attack Jodi Arias and the defense expert. How could this not be more important?

If her notes are disclosed or anything that could get to the defense side or the expert or the witnesses or other witnesses or the jurors, this could be material.

JACKSON: All right.

SWICKLE (ph): And it could absolutely lead to a mistrial.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Joey, ten seconds.

JACKSON: OK. Here`s the deal. The reality is, is that the jury is going hear this anyway. So to the extent that they`re going hear it anyway, how does it affect it? No. 2...

SWICKLE (ph): Not her notes. Not her notes.

JACKSON: ... the case is not going to live or die by the experts. It`s going to live and die by what she did to him on that very day, which was premeditated, controlled guilty.

SWICKLE (ph): This is a death penalty case, though.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We get -- we get the point, and I think you`re both making excellent points. I keep going back and forth, but it certainly is one thing I know for sure, bizarre.

More on the other side.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: He was next to me after the banquet. We sat down and ended up talking for a few more hours just about everything on the elevator.

He leaned in very close as if he wanted to kiss me, and he was licking his lips and he was staring at my lips. And he got right in my face. He licked his lips and said, "I wish you didn`t have a boyfriend."

NURMI: Did you kiss him?

ARIAS: No. He made it very obvious he wanted to kiss me, but he -- like, he was restraining himself.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Take a look at this man, reportedly one of Jodi Arias` biggest supporters. Radar Online breaking the story, but he says he`s not actually a boyfriend. He says there`s no romantic involvement, but he acknowledges he is there loyally supporting Jodi, that he met her through mutual Facebook friends, and he visits her on a weekly basis.

Now, Jean Casarez, I know you can`t comment on this, but you have sat in many courtrooms. And the jury is aware of the courtroom dynamics in the gallery, and they study people. They see that some people come in day after day, and it has an impact on them.

CASAREZ: Sure. And I study people, too, and I`ve seen this man. I`ve seen him right in the front row if this is who it is. It`s a man sitting next to the mother and the aunts. He`s coming front and center, really a part of the family. So I`ve wondered who that person is, and if that is the person you`re talking about, the jury can really have a very clear view of him.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And I remember sitting in courtrooms where everybody is looking around. It`s almost like a cocktail party without cocktails. And you`re analyzing; you`re checking people out. You`re wondering what their role is.

CASAREZ: Sure.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And it`s really fascinating stuff. And in a case like this it`s awkward, because you have basically two sides divided by victim and defendant. And this man, who`s circled there, on the defendant`s side.

Jodi has told us many times on the stand she is a big fan of movies. On closer inspection -- are you sitting down? -- could the way she killed Travis Alexander be a copy of a famous scene from the classic movie "Psycho?"

A blogger who is keeping close tabs on this trial thinks so. Watch for yourself. This from Paramount Pictures.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JANET LEIGH, ACTRESS: Oh, no!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look at these photos. Jodi took them of Travis Alexander just moments before she killed him. Do you see the parallels?

Somebody, this blogger, did freeze frames from the shower scene in the movie "Psycho" and contrasted them with these shots Jodi took of Travis moments before he was killed, and there are eerie similarities.

Copycat crimes do occur, Jeff Gardere, clinical psychologist. We know she loves movies.

GARDERE: Well, not only does she love movies, but we`ve talked about this before, Jane. This is a woman who has some sort of a personality disorder, a histrionic personality. So I wouldn`t be at all surprised --- it could be a bit of a stretch -- but I wouldn`t be at all surprised if this was a very symbolic way of taking revenge against Alexander, making it something that is more of an archetype from a movie to put an ending to this person and express her rage and seal it with -- with a bow.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: One of the biggest stunners -- speaking of movies, one of the biggest stunners of the week happened when Jodi told the jury about what was inside a package Travis sent her Valentine`s Day. There were chocolates, a shirt for Jodi that said "Travis Alexander`s"; pink shorts that said "Travis`" in the possessive; and on the bottom of it all, this. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: They were boys` underwear. They were Spider-Man underwear.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. So, some may find that gift disturbing, OK? Boys` Spider-Man underwear. But could it have been a reference to a scene from "Charlie`s Angels," where Cameron Diaz`s character dances in similar underwear to the song, "Heaven Must Be an Angel"? Check this out from YouTube.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

(MUSIC: "HEAVEN MUST BE AN ANGEL")

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Alexis Tereszcuk, entertainment editor, Radar Online. We do see often that life imitates art and art imitates life, and there have been many examples in real life where people got very sick ideas from the movies. But she may also be using the movies as an inspiration for some of the lies she`s telling.

TERESZCUK: Well, that`s the thing, is Jodi has come up with so many lies with the police. She originally said she wasn`t there, and then the next one was two ninjas broke in? I don`t know that she has a lot of experience in her personal life with ninjas, so that probably came from the movies, too.

And you`re exactly right about the underwear. This is the cutest scene with Cameron Diaz. And then Travis, it seems he thought it was cute for his super-sexy girlfriend, because Jodi is tiny; she`s beautiful. And that would have been something he probably definitely enjoyed seeing her in, so you`re exactly right.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And now she`s trying to use it to paint a portrait of this victim as a pervert. So what he sent her boys` Spider-Man underwear? A lot of girls wear boxers around the house. I wear boxers around the house. They`re comfortable.
More on the other side.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: Beneath that was a shirt that he had been joking about getting me for some months.

NURMI: Can you describe the shirt for us?

ARIAS: Yes. It`s the one that was in the pictures that said "Travis Alexander`s."

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: Felt an attraction to him. It wasn`t anything defined. We were sort of seeing each other.

He wasn`t treating me bad. He just seemed checked out, kind of distant. Primarily physical. I kind of felt like a prostitute, sort of. I felt a little bit used, but I knew I`d gone there on my own, willingly.

He didn`t return my call. I called him one more time. I sent him a text message, and he didn`t still return my call. And I still called him and I made those three attempts.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi told the jury about an instance where she and Travis were looking at that famous Body World exhibit, something she says she found fascinating.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We`d been looking at the Body World Museum. And we were looking at all these different -- I don`t know if you`re familiar with it, but all these different body parts and it`s fascinating, the human body and the structure and the organs and all that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: This video shows the kinds of exhibits Jodi was talking about. Look at that.

Many people, some religious groups have objected to these exhibits, because they showcase human remains. You`re looking at human remains. I actually went to see this exhibit and it`s fascinating, but it`s creepy. It`s eerie especially, I mean, what an odd thing for Jodi to be fascinated by considering she`s accused of slicing open and brutally murdering her ex- boyfriend.

Shanna Hogan, journalist and author of "Picture Perfect" on this case, you have studied this woman. Does that seem like just a coincidence or odd?

HOGAN: It certainly is odd that a woman who has come up any close to a body part and seeing a dead cadaver, was fascinated with seeing dead cadavers. I mean, clearly, there was a -- sort of a fascination with this, a macabre interest. She wanted to see the crime-scene photos after.

And also in court you see her peeking through her fingers and looking at the crime scene photos so she certainly has an interest in the macabre which plays into her interest in witchcraft, as well. You`re looking at crime scene photos and they look similar to the Body World exhibit. I mean, it`s eerie. It`s creepy.

And I`ve got to go back to Jeff Gardere. I mean, is that just a coincidence?

GARDERE: Well, it could be a coincidence, but when you put all of this information together, looking at the photographs, of course, what she`s being accused of, and then this body exhibit situation, sometimes too many things can`t be a coincidence. It becomes a pattern and certainly something that we need to pay attention to, because it can be part of a much bigger picture.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, what we`re going do on the other side of the break is analyze phone sex. We are going to hear phone sex next week, it`s believed.

It`s believed that Jodi Arias recorded phone calls between Travis Alexander and herself that are extremely sexually graphic and kinky, and they`re going to play them in court to try to paint this picture of her as a sexually degraded, emotionally and sexually abused woman. But why did she record those phone calls in the first place?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: He called me a skank. He called me Pollyanna. He called me porn star.

NURMI: Was he treating you as a girlfriend in front of these people and not in front of -- in front of others? Is that what you`re telling us?

ARIAS: Yes.



NURMI: Did he introduce you to them as -- as his girlfriend?

ARIAS: No. I was kind of just a friend, and I didn`t feel very good.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JODI ARIAS, ON TRIAL FOR MURDER OF TRAVIS ALEXANDER: The temptation got the better of me so I clicked on an email. I didn`t feel very good; I kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A used piece of toilet paper. You never told him that.

ARIAS: No, I wouldn`t have told him that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not.

ARIAS: I don`t think that would have made him feel very good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you ever express your feelings to him?

ARIAS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was that?

ARIAS: No. I didn`t want to make him feel bad. I didn`t want to do anything that would maybe displease him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you ever think I`m done with this guy?

ARIAS: I wasn`t thinking of writing him off. I developed feelings for him. I was excited to see him because I liked him. I kind of felt stupid I was like, what is he going to think if I`m showing up at his house at 3:00 in the morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not just break up with him?

ARIAS: I liked him so I wasn`t going to break up with him.


(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, bizarre and blockbuster developments in the Jodi Arias trial. KSAZ an Arizona TV station reporting that a key witness for the prosecution, a psychologist who evaluated Jodi Arias suffered a break-in and guess what was taken -- her laptop which purportedly contained notes on her analysis of Jodi Arias. Could this be something, if true -- we can`t independently confirm it -- that could throw a wrench into the whole case?

Then another breaking story: RadarOnline reporting that Jodi Arias has a new man in her life and he has been in the courtroom and as we go out to Alexis Tereszcuk, you see the man highlighted there in the courtroom. Alexis, what do you know?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE: This man Brian Carr has been visiting Jodi weekly for a year. And in fact, he`s absolutely enamored with her. He says that she`s so nice, the sweetest person. If everybody got to know her they wouldn`t see anything.

He says they never discussed the details of the trial is the first thing he says. But then he does reveal that they have spoken about her very, very graphic sexual testimony and that she is embarrassed and humiliated by it. He has not said anything about whether she regrets killing Travis at all. He just says they keep everything light and funny because that`s what she needs in this time behind bars is to have a good time. And so he`s providing that for her and he`s been in court basically every single day of this trial.

He says he`s not a boyfriend, but he`s definitely someone who is very important in her life.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: He`s very loyal to Jodi Arias and guess what; Monday, we are going to talk to this new man in Jodi Arias` life on our show. So please join us this coming Monday at 7:00 p.m. Eastern right here. We are going to talk to this man, who visits Jodi Arias on a weekly basis, and get his insights into Jodi Arias, her personality and what she`s going through right now. Unbelievable stuff.

I have to say, next week the prosecutor is probably going to start at some point during the week his cross-examination. We`ve already seen him get very aggressive with some witnesses. Check it out.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JUAN MARTINEZ, PROSECUTOR: Isn`t it true, sir that you want to use this situation so that the limelight can be focused on you. That`s not my question to you, is it? I`m asking you who`s making the money, aren`t I?

Nothing here is to make the prosecutor happy, do you understand that? Why don`t you want to answer my question? You don`t get to ask the questions, I do. So when was the third time you met her?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What could prosecutor Juan Martinez grill Jodi about based on the testimony we`ve heard thus far? Well, how about the fact that she had anal sex before Travis with a previous boyfriend even though she`s claiming she was forced to do it by Travis. That she wasn`t forced to do anything. When she told Travis to stop, he did. That the boy`s Spider-Man underwear Travis allegedly sent her might have just been a gag gift.

That since day one she has never expressed her feelings to Travis so how could he have felt that he was doing something wrong when she never said hey, I don`t like what you`re doing. I don`t like the way you`re treating me.

Let`s debate it with our legal expert starting with Dana Swickle, a criminal defense attorney. What does this prosecutor need to do and can he even do it?

DANA SWICKLE, A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think in this particular case he`s going need to try to rebut the fact that she is suffering from what one could say would be battered wife syndrome or a victim of domestic violence. And quite frankly, if he goes after her, which we all know that he`s going do that, but if he goes after her there needs to be a fine line because he may look like he`s an aggressor. And if there`s one juror on the stand that is sort of buying what she is saying and feels sorry for her and can relate to her as a victim of domestic violence he will then be portrayed as once again another male aggressor against her and I think it`s a very fine line that he has to walk.

I mean he`s going to have to do a lot to prove that she`s not a victim of domestic violence. You know, when you talk about those things and you say that she never told him anything throughout the year; that she didn`t like it and then you have this psychologist on earlier who`s saying she has a dependent personality with this new man in her life. Those are symptoms of victims of domestic violence and she`s just proving little bit by bit that she could actually be a victim of domestic violence.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Dana, good argument. Joey Jackson, your turn.

JOEY JACKSON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Two points. The first point is that I think Juan Martinez can be aggressive with her, why? I think this jury wants accountability. This is not the victim here. This is the defendant and she`s the one who slashed someone, cut his throat and shot him. I think if she`s being evasive the jury wants to know why she did it.

SWICKLE: But Joey, she`s not being evasive.

JACKSON: The second issue --

SWICKLE: She hasn`t been evasive.

JACKSON: Yes she is. If she is what she`s testifying.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Dana, I`ll give you your chance. I`ll give you your rebuttal chance in a second.

SWICKLE: Ok.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Go ahead, Joey. Joey, go.

JACKSON: The second issue is this. I think ultimately what happens is we`re hearing testimony about their love life. Where is the fear? When you talk about self-defense, you`re talking about someone in imminent fear. Give me testimony on how you feared him and how what he did in the past would come back therefore I needed to kill him.

Where is that? It`s absent. Therefore it speaks to her guilt.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Dana?

SWICKLE: First of all, you know, when you talk about her not being or being evasive to everything, I don`t know how much more open this girl can be to the point where sometimes it`s even painful in listening to what she`s saying? I mean how do you get baptized?

JACKSON: If you believe it.

SWICKLE: How do you change -- but there are pictures of her. She got baptized. He was a Mormon and he got her to get baptized and it wasn`t her religion. He had dominance over her.

JACKSON: So that establishes that everything she says is truthful.

SWICKLE: Hold on Joey -- Joey hold on. Joey hold on. I gave you your shot, give me mine.

JACKSON: Go ahead Dana.

SWICKLE: Then she`s talking about him only wanting to do anal sex with her, and constantly wanting to do that. That is so dominating and so degrading. And when you are a battered wife or you`re a victim of domestic violence you can`t just say "Stop, I don`t like what you`re doing." It`s a pattern. It`s a symptom of being --

(CROSSTALK)

JACKSON: The world according to Jodi Arias. Let`s just accept it as fact because that`s what she says.

SWICKLE: Wait a second. But you know what? She`s there and she`s saying it.

JACKSON: He`s dead and he can`t testify.

SWICKLE: And look, you can accept it for what it is. You can accept it for what it is but now --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.

SWICKLE: -- you have this psychologist on the stand earlier who is now say and talking about this new man in her life who now is she`s with this dependent personality. It is all clear.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Thank you. Fantastic debate, expert panel. And I like how you went for it and on Monday on this show we are going have the new man in Jodi Arias` life. He is loyal. He visits her weekly and we`re going to learn all about why and how it came about.

On the other side, "Scorned".

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NANCY GRACE

Jodi Arias Trial Notes Week 6

Aired February 8, 2013 - 20:00   ET


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JODI ARIAS, CHARGED WITH MURDER: I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes.

I could feel an erection.

Those are pictures of Travis`s erection.

-- began to have anal sex with me.

I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute.

The first night, it was the grinding and the next night was oral sex.

I felt a little bit used.

I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute.

Kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.

(INAUDIBLE) Stop, stop, stop. And he stopped.

It became too painful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The vow of chastity.

ARIAS: No premarital sex. Vaginal sex was off limits, and everything else was more or less OK.

It was a little confusing, the sex.

Sex is sex.

He sort of had, like, the Bill Clinton version.

Oral and anal sex were also sex to me, but not for him.

He finished by (EXPLETIVE DELETED) on my back.

-- called me skank.

-- called me Pollyanna...

-- porn star...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NANCY GRACE, HOST: All of us have watched Jodi Arias on the stand under oath, the entire week, hours and hours of Jodi Arias testifying. She might as well have written "David Copperfield" by Charles Dickens, which starts with "I was born," because that`s where we start with Jodi Arias.

She detailed everything from her life before she was 7 years old to her mother spanking her with a wooden spoon to the first time she rode a ferris wheel or some amusement park ride with a boy. I guess she was 14 years old. We go through every boyfriend she`s ever had, what was wrong with them, what they did wrong to her ad nauseam.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: I see that period of my life as probably one of the best times in my life. He treated me very well. He was very kind. He was very respectful. He was very spiritual. When I first met him, he -- I was a little bit leery of some of the things he was into. I saw some books on witchcraft, and I thought, Uh. but he explained to me that he was just seeking, that he had gone to church most of his life.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: What jumps out at me the most regarding Jodi Arias`s testimony is her demeanor in front of the jury.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: There were a few things that happened right before we moved. A bunch of friends and I one night decided -- like, the last night I was there, we tried to sneak out of the house and hang out. And my parents woke up and found out, so when I came back, my dad asked where I had been.

And I was -- I had fallen asleep. He had woke me up around 6:00. And so when I -- I sat up and I was disoriented because I had been sleeping, so I didn`t give him a satisfactory answer. So he hit me across the face. And I fell back down, and then he sat me back up and asked me again, and I didn`t give him a satisfactory answer, so he hit me across the face again and I fell down.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: She is striving to paint the picture of being meek, mild, shy, demure, soft-spoken. Frankly, she`s doing a very good job of it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did you feel when your own mother was beating you?

ARIAS: When I was younger, I remember feeling -- I didn`t have a word for it then, but I could describe it as betrayed and confused. And as I got a little bit older, it would just really make me mad because I just -- I didn`t get why -- I don`t know. I understood that I was being punished, but I would just be mad at her a lot over that because it hurt.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because you still loved her.

ARIAS: Yes, I loved my mom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even though she was still beating you, you still loved her.

ARIAS: Yes. It put a strain on our relationship, but I still loved her, of course.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m sorry, I didn`t hear the last part.

ARIAS: I still loved her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: If I had not seen her in her other interviews...

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you kill Travis Alexander?

ARIAS: I absolutely did not kill Travis Alexander. I had nothing to do with his murder. I didn`t harm him in any way.

I witnessed Travis being attacked by two other individuals.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who?

ARIAS: I don`t know who they were. I couldn`t pick them out in a police lineup.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So what happened?

ARIAS: They came into his home and attacked us both.

I`m not proud that I just left my friend there to be slaughtered at the hands of two other people. I`m not proud of that at all.

I know that I`m innocent. God knows I`m innocent. Travis knows I`m innocent.

No jury is going to convict me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not?

ARIAS: Because I`m innocent. And you can mark my words on that one, no jury will convict me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: If I did not know of her life before this murder, I might fall for it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The first -- the first week the missionaries came, they invited me to church that following Sunday. Someone was giving a talk, and what that person said was very impactful. It was an acceptance and a tolerance of all faiths in the world.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: She`s very, very convincing. It`s also a conundrum, a mystery, as to why the prosecution is not objecting to this monologue that she is presenting as kind of a stream of consciousness on the stand. And it`s totally inadmissible.

Another facet of Jodi Arias`s testimony, of course, is that the large bulk of it dealt with sex.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We were in the bedroom. We were not on the bed, but we were standing next to it. And we were kissing. And I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. The kissing got more passionate, more intense. And then he spun me around. He bent me over the bed, and he was just on top of me.

I didn`t think anything was -- I thought he was just going to keep kissing me. I was face down. My head was turned to the side. His hands were wandering, and he lifted up my skirt and -- and he pulled down my underwear, and he was pressing against me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean, pressing against you?

ARIAS: His whole body.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he have an erection?

ARIAS: I could feel an erection. He unzipped his pants and -- I guess he pulled them down. I didn`t see. But he -- he began to have anal sex with me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: I spoke with many of Travis Alexander`s friends. And they universally and uniformly said that she projected herself in a very provocative and sexual manner to the extent that the wives of Travis Alexander`s friends did not want her around. They perceived that she was hitting on their husbands. From her testimony, she paints the same picture of herself.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: While you were at this convention, did you ever meet an individual by the name of Travis Alexander?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Describe for us where you were and what was going on when you met Travis Alexander.

ARIAS: We were finishing up dinner, paid our check, and we left -- we didn`t leave the Rain Forest Cafe. We sort of stayed in this kind of lobby area. I don`t know how else -- we were right outside the entrance, still indoors.

And there`s just tons of people everywhere and a lot of them are business associates, so I`m just -- I`m staying close to Michelle. She`s the only person I really know. And I`m meeting other people that are on my team, and she introduces me to people that are in my up (ph) line and things like that, and there was just a crowd of people everywhere.

And out of the corner of my eye, I saw somebody walking toward me, kind of fast-paced. And I noticed it was a guy, and I thought -- I thought he was going somewhere because he looked like he had a purpose. So I stepped out of the way because I thought he need to walk past me, but he stopped right in front of me and stuck his hand out and introduced himself.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Now, the testimony is geared at making Travis Alexander look like a big a-hole. There`s really no other way to put it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: He began to perform oral sex on me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And was this comfortable? You mentioned earlier that you had a certain level of discomfort with this -- the being naked. Were you uncomfortable while this oral sex was going on?

ARIAS: I was -- I was uncomfortable. It was dark and the lights were off, so I think that might have made it a little bit more -- I mean, a little more tolerable. But it was -- I don`t know. He -- he knew what he was doing, for sure, but it was just -- felt like too much, too soon. And I mean, I couldn`t exactly rewind at that point, you know?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not? Did you -- did you voice your displeasure with the events?

ARIAS: No, I can`t say that it was displeasure, but it was uncomfortable. Does that make sense?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, let me rephrase my question, then. Did you voice your discomfort to him?

ARIAS: No. I didn`t want to give him that impression.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: She describes how he is very cold to her after sex encounters, that he won`t kiss her after she gives him oral sex, that he just drives off after an oral sex encounter at a parking lot near a Starbucks. I mean, it just -- everything to paint him as callous, insensitive, unfeeling, boorish, using her for sex.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: I don`t recall feeling really bad, maybe just a little deflated.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: But there`s a flip side to that coin. Think about it. She says, quote, "I felt like a piece of used toilet paper," quote.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: Shortly after he left, I felt -- I didn`t feel very good. I kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper. I didn`t continue feeling that way. Just shortly thereafter for a little while I did.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: "I felt like a prostitute."

ARIAS: I felt a little bit used. But I knew I had gone there on my own willingly.

He gets a hotel room. I show up. We hang out. We have sex. He`s not really there presently. Like, he`s not mentally present. I`m getting a lot of attention but only while we`re engaging in sexual activity, and then we check out and he takes off. And I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute, sort of.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That adds fuel to the fire the prosecution is building, the story of revenge, of anger, of a simmering anger that started that day in the parking lot near Starbucks when she performed oral sex on him at his request, and he refused to kiss her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: He wouldn`t -- he refused to kiss me afterward because he said it was gross. I guess maybe that`s because I was just performing oral sex, but that`s what he said. And so he kissed me on the cheek and left.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Every time, he pretended they weren`t dating in front of other people.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you were in front of the roommates, did he hold hands with you, put his arm around you, anything of that nature?

ARIAS: No. We stayed in the bedroom a lot. But when we hung out downstairs, if the roommates were there, we were just regular, like, friends.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Every time he said a mocking comment or an insult or a belittlement...

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: We were on the phone, actually, when he said that. We were talking, and then he began to have a conversation with somebody else, so I waited. And then he apologized and said, Josh just got home. I said, Tell him I said hi. Jodi says hi.

And I could hear a muffled response in the background. It sounded friendly but Travis said, He said you`re a skank. So I knew it came from Travis, not Josh. And then he said, I`m just kidding.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That anger grew and the fire went from red to blue to white hot. That may very well be the prosecution`s strategy.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Be so kind as to take a look at those. Do you recognize those?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are those pictures of?

ARIAS: Those are pictures of Travis`s erection.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And when did you -- or how did you come into possession of these photos?

ARIAS: They were sent to me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How?

ARIAS: Via his phone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Via text message or picture message?

ARIAS: Picture message.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: It caused quite a stir when Arias first took the witness stand to testify in her own defense. I notice that she most often approaches the stand, she ascends and descends the stand, when the jury is not there.

I think that that is two -- for a reason twofold. One, she`s wearing a stun belt, and that may be more pronounced or more easily spotted if she`s standing up.

Also, if she stands up, they`ll see how big she really is, as opposed to having her chair screwed down and adjusted to make her much shorter than her female defense lawyer that she is sitting beside, so they could actually gauge how big she is by looking at her standing up. I hope the prosecution asks her to stand.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why didn`t you tell him no?

ARIAS: Eventually, I did. I probably would have just let him continue, but it was -- became too painful. Because I knew that that was what he had been wanting for a while. And I just -- I trusted him. I had a lot of trust, and he -- I just went with what he was -- with his agenda, I guess I could say.

I don`t think it went on too long, not several minutes, maybe a few. I mean, I wasn`t looking forward to it, but definitely pain -- I had to. I had to have him stop. Otherwise, I probably would have continued.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jodi Arias grew up in northern California, but was living in Palm Desert when she met Travis Alexander in September 2006 at a Las Vegas conference. Travis was living here, in Mesa, Arizona. He was an up-and-coming motivational speaker and a salesman for pre-paid legal insurance.

ARIAS: At the time, I shook his hand. He said, Hi, I`m Travis. I said, Hi, I`m Jodi. And his name was just another of many names that I had to remember. He made it a point to keep walking next to me and keep me engaged in conversation. And we just -- you know, by the time we made it around to the big gold line in the front of the lobby, we just -- we had discovered a couple of common interests and that sort of thing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Jodi Arias describes how she felt, which is also inadmissible. But it plays a role here. The defense is trying to show that she felt used and mistreated.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you holding hands? Did you have your arm around each other? Was that different than most of the other times?

ARIAS: Inside the motel room, definitely. Inside the truck stop -- There`s -- the restaurant adjoins this mini-mart, and he -- he grabbed my butt there. There were some men standing by and he did that right in front of them. And other than that, I think -- he wasn`t too affectionate at Sizzler (ph). I don`t really remember. But he was very affectionate inside the motel room while we were being physical.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That does not go towards self-defense. That goes toward anger and revenge. Now, if she felt in fear for her life or that she had been beaten, that`s a whole different animal. That would go towards self- defense.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At this point in time, you had engaged in several, maybe half dozen -- I mean, not quite a half dozen -- instances of sexual contact with Mr. Alexander, right?

ARIAS: Yes. Well, how many did you say?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, around a half dozen, give or take, probably a few less.

ARIAS: Something close to that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And he doesn`t want anyone, seemingly, to know that you have any sort of relationship in December of 2006. So my question to you then is, how did that make you feel?

ARIAS: I didn`t give it too much thought. It didn`t make me feel good, but it didn`t make me upset. It just sort of -- it`s something I kept ignoring and putting out of my mind and just -- ignoring.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. So you weren`t mad at him?

ARIAS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you ever think at this point in time, I`m done with this guy?

ARIAS: Maybe not in the context that I think you`re putting it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Well, what context was it? I mean, at this point in time, you didn`t say, Gee whiz, we`re doing all this activity, he doesn`t even want to hold my hand in public, it`s time to end this?

ARIAS: It bothered me a little bit. But we talked about our -- the status of our relationship the next day.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And based on that conversation -- you used the word "status." What was the status of your relationship, based on this conversation? To your understanding, what was the status?

ARIAS: After talking, I was encouraged to date other people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: But again, I think that she is trying to engender empathy amongst the female jurors, for every female that has ever felt misused by a guy, which is probably every woman on this earth at one time or another feels neglected or misused or taken for granted. They`re trying to tap into those feelings by the female jurors. That`s what they`re trying to do.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4th, 2008?

ARIAS: Yes, I did.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said that no jury would convict you, something to that effect. Do you remember saying that? Remember saying that?

ARIAS: Yes, I did say that. At the time, I had plans to commit suicide.

The simple answer is that he attacked me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Well, there was certainly a sensation in the courtroom this week when Jodi Arias described her baptism, her Mormon baptism, but not for the reasons that you may think. Although she describes a peaceful feeling descending upon her as she emerged from the water -- I assume it was a full immersion baptism -- she was baptized in the Mormon church by her lover, Travis Alexander.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: You walk up, and Travis held his hand up and said some kind of invocation or prayer or blessing. I don`t know what it`s called. He made a declaration, so to speak, and then I was dipped into the water and came back up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how did it feel for you to be baptized? Were you elated? Did you feel very spiritual? Can you describe that feeling?

ARIAS: It was a very peaceful feeling.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: They zoomed straight home and immediately engaged in anal sex still wearing their church baptismal clothes. Now, that`s certainly -- that certainly conjures up a mental image. I`m not quite sure where the defense is going with that, other than to magnify her feelings, Jodi Arias`s feelings of being used.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Had you ever learned about what we`re calling the vow of chastity?

ARIAS: It was mentioned.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At any point in time?

ARIAS: It was mentioned to me. Not in detail.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was your understanding of that vow?

ARIAS: According to the missionaries, they were -- they sort of glossed over it. They didn`t really gloss over it...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Objection, (INAUDIBLE) what her understanding was.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was your understanding of what the vow meant, what it prohibited?


ARIAS: No premarital sex. My understanding was that it meant that vaginal sex was off limits, and everything else was more or less OK.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And who gave you that understanding?

ARIAS: Travis did.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: The jury must be reminded in cross-exam that regardless of how she says today she feels, she was the one that drove 1,000 miles to be with Travis Alexander. She was the one that stalked him. She was the one that slashed his tires twice. She was the one that slashed the tires of his then girlfriend he started dating. She was the one that broke into his social media, his e-mail accounts. She was the one that broke into had his bank accounts. She pursued him.

So whatever feeling she had, she must have liked it.

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": What sticks out to me most is that Jodi Arias seems to have control of the courtroom, and indeed, the case, as she`s taken the witness stand. And she`s really, I think, tried to put the jurors in her shoes, or what she claims is her shoes, sort of this innocent, naive thing being groomed into becoming some kind of sex slave under the guise of religion. It`s definitely a motive, but is it self-defense?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you in love with him in February 2007?

ARIAS: I might have been, but I don`t recall being in love-in love. We -- I recall having feelings for him, but I don`t know that I could say in love yet.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: In court this week, the defense introduced images that they claim are Travis Alexander`s penis, that he had taken that photo and sent it, texted it to Jodi Arias. I`m not really sure the point of that, I assume to make Travis Alexander out to be some sort of a deviant.

But remember, all we have is Jodi Arias`s word that that is how she received the photo. And I don`t think that there`s going to be a photographic lineup for identification purposes. Long story short, we have to accept her word that Travis Alexander sent her this photo. And again, if anything, if I were the state, I would argue that it made Arias feel angry and used.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So he sent you two photos that day?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

ARIAS: Consecutively.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ms. Arias, when he did that, was he also requesting that you reciprocate with any photos?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you reciprocate with photos?

ARIAS: No, not that day.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not?

ARIAS: I was at a restaurant and -- I don`t know how to really explain it without saying...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, did you want to reciprocate?

ARIAS: Not -- no, I didn`t. But I knew he wanted to, so I was a little bit conflicted. But I said no.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did he react to your refusal to send him a picture?

ARIAS: He -- he felt it should be fair, kind of like that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m shocked at how she has free run to tell her entire life story and go into all sorts of mundane details, what an ex- boyfriend wore for Halloween. I mean, this is outrageous!

Why is this happening? I`ll tell you why, because it`s a death penalty case, and that means that this judge wants to give her every opportunity to tell her story. And I think that, ultimately, may be the prosecution`s undoing.

GRACE: The defense, I believe, at this juncture, is succeeding in making Travis Alexander look like the bad guy. But I have a firm belief that on cross-examination, the full story is going to be told. And that full story will include the fact that Jodi Arias was a willing and eager participant in every one of these sex acts.

In fact, she egged Travis Alexander on. She would go to no lengths -- to all lengths to be with him, traveling great distances in order to be with him, even though he made it very clear they were not going to marry.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: The simple answer is that he attacked me, and I defended myself.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Arias looked right at jurors as she told her story, the same jury that has watched her lie to police over and over.

ARIAS: The truth is I did not hurt Travis.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The prosecution is hoping the jury will not believe a word out of her mouth. They say Arias stalked Travis Alexander and then planned the brutal killing of the 30-year-old Mormon businessman.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Early on in Arias`s testimony, she described her childhood. And during that time she described, with her mother sitting stoically in the courtroom, looking on, that her mother would spank her with a wooden spoon.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were just now telling us that your mother carried a spoon with her. What did she do with that spoon?

ARIAS: It was a wooden kitchen spoon that she would keep in her purse. And if we were misbehaving, my brother and I -- this is before Angela and Joseph were born, although it continued through that point. If we were misbehaving, she would use it on us. Sometimes she would pull the car over, and you know -- if we were just being brats or something.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean by use it on you?

ARIAS: She would hit us with it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did she hit you hard?

ARIAS: It felt pretty hard, yes. It left welts.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It left welts on your body?

ARIAS: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That her father would spank her, that he used a belt on certain occasions, that he never left a welt on her, then on some occasions, he pushed her, she was pushed into a door jamb, she claims she lost consciousness. She also said that on one occasion where she stayed out basically the whole night, he slapped her in the face twice.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You told us that your dad hit you with the belt.

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After age 7.

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he leave welts?

ARIAS: He didn`t leave welts as often as my mom. She also used a belt. My dad was very intimidating, so I don`t think he needed to hit us quite as hard to get the point across.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did the beatings from your mother and father -- did they continue?

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did they increase in nature?

ARIAS: They tended to -- they began to increase, I`d say, all the way through my teenage years. Once I became a teenager, my dad would get rougher and rougher.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: The point of this is to establish, or the defense hopes it will establish, that she was used to or conditioned to being physically abused, and that when Travis Alexander made a move toward her the day of his murder, she assumed she had to act in self-defense because she was conditioned that way.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi Arias is teeing up the ball, and then a domestic violence expert will take the stand and weave it all together. Yes, she was abused by her parents when she was a kid. She confuses abuse with love.


Then she gets in the clutches of this sexual deviant, Travis Alexander, and he sexually abuses her and controls her to the point where she loses her will, she loses her capacity to say no. And all of this becomes battered women`s syndrome and post-traumatic stress disorder, and that kind of messes with her head when he gets angry at her after she drops the camera.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Remember what I told you about the camera?

ARIAS: Uh-huh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That camera was damaged. Someone put it in the washing machine, ran it through a wash cycle with some clothes of Travis`s. But the card was intact. Remember when I told you that card was destroyed?

ARIAS: Uh-huh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn`t want to tell you the truth because I wanted to make sure those photos were accurate. And we can pull deleted photos. I don`t care if you deleted them six months ago.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was he angry that you didn`t respond to his call or weren`t there to answer his phone call?

ARIAS: He wasn`t angry, just inquisitive.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And that inquisition, if you will, led to you describing the fact that you were with Mr. Dixon (ph).

ARIAS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how did that sit with Travis?

ARIAS: He -- it wasn`t warmly received. He didn`t appear to get angry. But he -- I could tell he was upset in his -- the way he was -- in his tone. His mood changed.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Other than abuse as a child, the defense brought up one boyfriend that put her in a stranglehold, a chokehold. Other than that, we have heard no more. She moved out of her home with her parents at about age 17, so it`s been since that time that she had any physical abuse, if you believe what she said. I don`t know that that`s going to translate into believing Alexander was going to beat her.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: We`ve seen a lot of themes this week from the defense of Jodi Arias, the, He did this, he did that. And basically, she went through every boyfriend she`s ever had since about age 14 to describe what was wrong with them and what they did to hurt her and how awful they all were.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What about the way he treated you at this convention, this kind of -- well, what about this disparity between the affectionate behavior you saw when you were going through Missouri and the behavior during the convention?

How did that sudden change to being -- just going from girlfriend, someone he`s intimate with at night in the hotel room, to just being one of his buddies at the convention?

ARIAS: How did that...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, how did that make you feel?

ARIAS: I didn`t actually overanalyze it because this was a business convention. Nevertheless, there were couples that were friendly outside of the business sessions. There was a lot of personal time and hanging out and partying.

So I saw other couples being affectionate. I don`t mean making out, just sitting next to each other, holding hands. Travis and I didn`t do that. So it hurt my feelings a little bit. It was very mild in comparison to the way he was actually acting with another woman.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: She seemed to suggest that it was abusive that her parents did not share her enthusiasm for art.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As it relates to your parents, how was your interest in art received? Did they encourage that? How was it received by your parents?

ARIAS: They didn`t discourage me by any means, but they were lukewarm, I`d say. You know, it was, like, Oh, that`s nice. They weren`t really moved by it, I don`t think. I was getting a lot of praise from my classmates and my art teacher and other people, but I didn`t really get that from them. They were just a little bit indifferent.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: It`s just basically been a hodgepodge of Poor, pitiful me, the whole week.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: The defense is having Jodi tell her whole sordid tale of woe story. And then they`re going to bring in the psychiatrists and the domestic violence expert to put it in a package and wrap it up with a little bow and say, A-ha, this explains her state of mind when Travis Alexander lunged at her.

This explains why she felt the need to stab him so many times and to slit his throat from ear to ear, that she just exploded, but she was trying to save her own life, this was all done in self-defense. Will the jury buy it? Who the heck knows.

GRACE: I don`t know that any of the jurors are actually falling for it, if they are going to buy Jodi Arias hook, line and sinker. I find that hard to believe.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARIAS: I kind of said through clenched teeth, Stop, stop stop, and he stopped. So I think he got the impression that it was not pleasurable at that point, but I never said anything about it after that of a negative nature.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you never advised him that you felt like, as I think you said, a used piece of toilet paper. You never told him that?

ARIAS: No. I wouldn`t have told him that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would not have? Is that what you said?

ARIAS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not?

ARIAS: Because I don`t think that would have made him feel very good.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Many people are surprised that Arias has been on the stand for this long. I`m not surprised at all. This is her close-up.

Jodi Arias broke down and cried at the sight of a dog, a pet dog, that was shown in the courtroom. But yet when she took the stand and said that she killed Travis Alexander, she shed not a tear.

Now, I`m not a shrink, but I do know this. That`s not good for the defense. I think the defense has done everything in their power to make Jodi Arias look unattractive. In tot mom Casey Anthony, they tried to make the defendant look like a librarian. Here they seem to have tried to transform Jodi Arias into an ugly pre-teen. They`ve done a very good job at that.
The defense strategy in not ending their case with Jodi Arias as the last witness is out of necessity. They want to bring on an expert in the battered women defense. They can`t do that until they lay the appropriate legal, factual foundation.

I mean, they could bring in an expert on aerodynamics or an astronaut for all -- if these were not the rules of evidence. But there`s no facts to support such an expert. The law is very clear. For an expert to come in and hypothesize, theorize on their opinions regarding the case, it must be rooted in facts in that case.

So what they`re trying to do is have Jodi Arias lay the foundation regarding self-defense for then the expert, LaViolette, to take the stand and convince the jury.

If Jodi Arias is convicted of murder one, she`ll have to retake the stand in order to save her own skin on death penalty phase because I find it to be a very unflattering and self-serving picture that she has painted of herself on direct examination. And she has shown absolutely zero remorse for the 29 stab wounds she inflicted on Travis Alexander.

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« Reply #166 on: February 09, 2013, 05:49:43 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2013/02/09/1905101/
Jodi Arias Exclusive: Judge OKs controversial testimony
February 9, 2013


Jodi Arias documents from closed hearing show she will claim Travis Alexanders lewd acts while looking at pictures of children.

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« Reply #167 on: February 10, 2013, 05:42:43 PM »

I feel for Travis family! Having to sit in court! As jodi plays the. Victim!
It's got to be torture for them. I hope that the jury sees thru her! How much longer will she be up there rambling on?
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« Reply #168 on: February 10, 2013, 11:35:07 PM »

I feel for Travis family! Having to sit in court! As jodi plays the. Victim!
It's got to be torture for them. I hope that the jury sees thru her! How much longer will she be up there rambling on?
Shes vile. I dont understand how she can testify to the sexual acts that took place between them & claim the things she does about him. The other party involved is not here to refute it because she slaughtered jim& now wants to portray him as a sick sexual deviant to save her azz. Again, why would she drive 1000 miles to be so used & abused? If i were his sister it would take everything i have not to jump up there & strangle her
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« Reply #169 on: February 11, 2013, 11:13:04 AM »

Jodi Arias Takes the Stand and Says She Killed Travis Alexander, Planned Suicide
Feb. 4, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-tells-jury-killed-alexander-planned-kill/story?id=18399979


Jodi Arias Describes Sexual Encounter Week After Meeting Travis Alexander
Feb. 5, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-describes-sexual-encounter-week-meeting-travis/story?id=18411629


Jodi Arias Said Travis Alexander Had 'Bill Clinton' View of Sex
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Woman accused of killing Arizona boyfriend set to resume testimony
Published February 11, 2013


PHOENIX   A woman charged with killing her lover in his Arizona home after a lust-filled day of sex and raunchy photographs is set to resume her testimony Monday as defense attorneys work to portray the victim as a liar and philanderer in hopes of gaining sympathy from jurors.

Jodi Arias, 32, testified for three days last week, recounting her troubled childhood marred by abuse at the hands of her parents, a string of bad relationships and struggles to pay bills as she moved from job to job.

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Alexander was stabbed and slashed 27 times, had his throat slit and was shot in the forehead.

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Authorities say Alexander was shot in the head with a .25 caliber gun, the same caliber Arias' grandparents reported stolen from their Northern California home about a week before the killing.

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« Reply #171 on: February 11, 2013, 02:39:15 PM »

Has anyone besides me! Notice that today! Jodi has selective memory!
Just last week she was giving details about her past! Like the hollowed costume she wore one hollowed and other clear thoughts! Than today she's not recalling clearly?
I think by now the jury has seen the light! As to her Pollyanna theme.
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« Reply #173 on: February 11, 2013, 03:20:18 PM »

February 11, 2013 Tweets

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#JodiArias telling jury how she broke up with Travis after snooping into his phone on a trip 6-29-07 http://yfrog.com/estm5zij
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#JodiArias on the stand today talking about waking up one night with Travis inside her... http://yfrog.com/kjq6wllpj
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#JodiArias Travis started having sex with her one night while she was asleep...

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#JodiArias says Travis made her wear little boys spiderman underwear and that he said it was hot. She says she felt silly not hot

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Full LIVE coverage of the #JodiArias trial 3pm on #HLN allegations of pornographic pictures of little boys

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#JodiArias claims first physival attack came when she walked in on Travis masturbating with pictures of little boys sprawled on his bed...

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Jodi Arias Takes the Stand in Murder Trial

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Woman accused of killing Arizona boyfriend says she once awoke to find him having sex with her
Published February 11, 2013

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« Reply #175 on: February 11, 2013, 04:50:36 PM »

Why is the judge allowing this assassination of Travis' character with no collaborating witnesses?

If all Jodi is saying is true ... WHY did she continue a relationship with Travis?


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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #176 on: February 11, 2013, 06:16:51 PM »

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This is sickening to listen to her ! Acting like a victim!
She cannot prove anything she says! About Travis ! How much longer will this defense go on? Get to June pleeeze.
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« Reply #177 on: February 11, 2013, 06:18:39 PM »

I don't know about y'all but to me she's coming across as a slut! She's doing more damage to herself! I can't wait for Martinez to take over.
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« Reply #178 on: February 11, 2013, 06:27:16 PM »


Shed never need anesthesia during her colonoscopies, Im sure of that. Since she had so much boogie sex
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« Reply #179 on: February 11, 2013, 06:27:39 PM »

February 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/vinniepolitan


1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias wiping her nose as she looks at pictures of her and Travis http://yfrog.com/h6j9lccj
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1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias: now identifying all the myspace photos...
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1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias attorney keeps saying Arias moved back to Mesa... WRONG... She was from CA... She relocated to Mesa AFTER break-up
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1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias: Travis wanted her to wear boys spiderman underwear and have anal sex ...he said it was hot ...I enjoyed making him happy
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1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias LIVE testimony now on #HLN
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1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias says she had sex with Travis on her front porch... He wanted to do it... He had a list of fantasies...
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1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias says she had sex with Travis in different places: car, hotels, her house in Mesa
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1h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias talking about having sex with Travis while also woeking as his maid... Paid in cash! http://yfrog.com/oez0ukbj
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2h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias says Travis paid her 200 month to clean his house after the break-up
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2h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias says Travis convinced her to move to Mesa... After the Break-up...
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2h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias says she moved to Mesa after the break-up because she already planned to move there...
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4h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias telling jury how she broke up with Travis after snooping into his phone on a trip 6-29-07 http://yfrog.com/estm5zij
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5h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias on the stand today talking about waking up one night with Travis inside her... http://yfrog.com/kjq6wllpj
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5h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias father in court for first time http://yfrog.com/nu55smsj
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5h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias Travis started having sex with her one night while she was asleep...
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5h Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
#JodiArias says Travis made her wear little boys spiderman underwear and that he said it was hot. She says she felt silly not hot
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