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Samantha
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 01:23:58 PM
My 11 year old actually questioned whether Juan Martinez signing the cane and posing with 'fans' was a good idea. He thought it was inappropriate and that Juan should wait until the trial is over.
Its not the best thing and he was probably told not to repeat.. however it was funny how the defense mis-characterized Casarez's statement to make their point. (Unless Casarez misremembered)
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kcrn
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 01:23:58 PM
My 11 year old actually questioned whether Juan Martinez signing the cane and posing with 'fans' was a good idea. He thought it was inappropriate and that Juan should wait until the trial is over.
Its not the best thing and he was probably told not to repeat.. however it was funny how the defense mis-characterized Casarez's statement to make their point. (Unless Casarez misremembered)
Im sure it wasnt his intention to be a celebrity. In hindsight he probably knows he should avoid the public outside the courthouse but i can imagine it caught him off gaurd & he didnt want to be rude. Im sure it is a good feeling to know that people appreciate the job u do. Probably not a good idea but lets just grasp at straws to find a mistrial rationale. How pathetic.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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I missed if the judge ruled on the Prosecutor having more fans then the Defense grounds for mis-trial - can anyone tell me
what the Judge said about it.
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March 28, 2013, 02:02:50 PM »
Come to think of it - this is the second time that the Defense ::donkey2:: attorney's have attacked Juan Martinez.
me thinks they are not very confident in their case they've put on.
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Samantha
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
I missed if the judge ruled on the Prosecutor having more fans then the Defense grounds for mis-trial - can anyone tell me
what the Judge said about it.
We didn't hear what the judge ruled. Jean Casarez was questioned and then there was a sidebar and when they came back they started court as usual.
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Amys Sister
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March 28, 2013, 02:15:30 PM »
Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
I missed if the judge ruled on the Prosecutor having more fans then the Defense grounds for mis-trial - can anyone tell me
what the Judge said about it.
We didn't hear what the judge ruled. Jean Casarez was questioned and then there was a sidebar and when they came back they started court as usual.
Kurt Nurmi mentioned bringing in a video next week. Any chance the judge is waiting for that? It is a little interesting that HLN had one of their staff pose with Martinez and act like an excited school girl over him.
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Samantha
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March 28, 2013, 02:18:58 PM »
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
I missed if the judge ruled on the Prosecutor having more fans then the Defense grounds for mis-trial - can anyone tell me
what the Judge said about it.
We didn't hear what the judge ruled. Jean Casarez was questioned and then there was a sidebar and when they came back they started court as usual.
Kurt Nurmi mentioned bringing in a video next week. Any chance the judge is waiting for that? It is a little interesting that HLN had one of their staff pose with Martinez and act like an excited school girl over him.
Especially since they replayed it over and over again yesterday like it was actually important.
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Amys Sister
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 28, 2013, 02:26:15 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
Come to think of it - this is the second time that the Defense ::donkey2:: attorney's have attacked Juan Martinez.
me thinks they are not very confident in their case they've put on.
No doubt... their client is a cold blooded killer.
What was the first time they attacked JM about? I only started watching the trial a few weeks ago so I missed it.
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Amys Sister
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March 28, 2013, 02:32:07 PM »
This expert witness sent Jodi gifts too? Is this normal? Shouldn't that be up to family and friends?
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March 28, 2013, 02:34:07 PM »
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
I missed if the judge ruled on the Prosecutor having more fans then the Defense grounds for mis-trial - can anyone tell me
what the Judge said about it.
We didn't hear what the judge ruled. Jean Casarez was questioned and then there was a sidebar and when they came back they started court as usual.
Kurt Nurmi mentioned bringing in a video next week. Any chance the judge is waiting for that? It is a little interesting that HLN had one of their staff pose with Martinez and act like an excited school girl over him.
Then again.. Nurmi couldn't even get Casarez's comment correct.. so who knows it if was really an HLN staff. He just asked about it.
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kcrn
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 28, 2013, 02:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:32:07 PM
This expert witness sent Jodi gifts too? Is this normal? Shouldn't that be up to family and friends?
Interesting for sure. Im getting deja vu with the throwing of the family under the bus. Now her father was a pervert too? Good lord. The wooden spoon thing is just comical to me. My mom used to threaten my brother & i with the wooden spoon all the time & i might have had a few swipes with it. I can probably count on ine hand how many times my mother put her hands (or spoon) on us. We were hardly abused. Back in the day parents could actually spank or whatever without it even remotely qualifying for abuse. Not condoning it because im too much of a wimp to spank but this is not abuse imo. This witness may be the best one they have but i wonder if establishing an abusive childhood does anything but say thst she was abused at home & thus made her distrustful of men in general. Travis did not just develop an abusive angry personality when he met jodi. Or this sexual "deviance" they speak of. Past gf would have corroborated this if true. The sexual thing, as ive said before is more likely that she was willing to be a little freaky & probably came on strong from the beginning, & he was all for it being a young man. I dont find it all that shocking as many men will experiment when given the opportunity.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 28, 2013, 02:53:35 PM »
Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
I missed if the judge ruled on the Prosecutor having more fans then the Defense grounds for mis-trial - can anyone tell me
what the Judge said about it.
We didn't hear what the judge ruled. Jean Casarez was questioned and then there was a sidebar and when they came back they started court as usual.
Kurt Nurmi mentioned bringing in a video next week. Any chance the judge is waiting for that? It is a little interesting that HLN had one of their staff pose with Martinez and act like an excited school girl over him.
Then again.. Nurmi couldn't even get Casarez's comment correct.. so who knows it if was really an HLN staff. He just asked about it.
Did you see the blonde haired younger woman in the courtroom audience? She was the HLN staff member who, in the video played on HLN, stated she saw Juan in the elevator and went on and on about how fab he is. At least that's what I gathered from it.
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... she was wearing an orange dress.
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March 28, 2013, 02:56:33 PM »
Quote from: kcrn on March 28, 2013, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:32:07 PM
This expert witness sent Jodi gifts too? Is this normal? Shouldn't that be up to family and friends?
Interesting for sure. Im getting deja vu with the throwing of the family under the bus. Now her father was a pervert too? Good lord. The wooden spoon thing is just comical to me. My mom used to threaten my brother & i with the wooden spoon all the time & i might have had a few swipes with it. I can probably count on ine hand how many times my mother put her hands (or spoon) on us. We were hardly abused. Back in the day parents could actually spank or whatever without it even remotely qualifying for abuse. Not condoning it because im too much of a wimp to spank but this is not abuse imo. This witness may be the best one they have but i wonder if establishing an abusive childhood does anything but say thst she was abused at home & thus made her distrustful of men in general. Travis did not just develop an abusive angry personality when he met jodi. Or this sexual "deviance" they speak of. Past gf would have corroborated this if true. The sexual thing, as ive said before is more likely that she was willing to be a little freaky & probably came on strong from the beginning, & he was all for it being a young man. I dont find it all that shocking as many men will experiment when given the opportunity.
Well yeah, it's everyone else's fault Jodi had to stalk and brutally murder Travis. Poor Jodi was 'vulnerable'.
I notice the witness isn't talking about Jodi beating her toddler brother in the head with a baseball bat. I wonder if Jodi shared that with her?
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: kcrn on March 28, 2013, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:32:07 PM
This expert witness sent Jodi gifts too? Is this normal? Shouldn't that be up to family and friends?
Interesting for sure. Im getting deja vu with the throwing of the family under the bus. Now her father was a pervert too? Good lord. The wooden spoon thing is just comical to me. My mom used to threaten my brother & i with the wooden spoon all the time & i might have had a few swipes with it. I can probably count on ine hand how many times my mother put her hands (or spoon) on us. We were hardly abused. Back in the day parents could actually spank or whatever without it even remotely qualifying for abuse. Not condoning it because im too much of a wimp to spank but this is not abuse imo. This witness may be the best one they have but i wonder if establishing an abusive childhood does anything but say thst she was abused at home & thus made her distrustful of men in general. Travis did not just develop an abusive angry personality when he met jodi. Or this sexual "deviance" they speak of. Past gf would have corroborated this if true. The sexual thing, as ive said before is more likely that she was willing to be a little freaky & probably came on strong from the beginning, & he was all for it being a young man. I dont find it all that shocking as many men will experiment when given the opportunity.
Well yeah, it's everyone else's fault Jodi had to stalk and brutally murder Travis. Poor Jodi was 'vulnerable'.
I notice the witness isn't talking about Jodi beating her toddler brother in the head with a baseball bat. I wonder if Jodi shared that with her?
I feel like all shes establishing is that jodi is a ho.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: Samantha on March 28, 2013, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
I missed if the judge ruled on the Prosecutor having more fans then the Defense grounds for mis-trial - can anyone tell me
what the Judge said about it.
We didn't hear what the judge ruled. Jean Casarez was questioned and then there was a sidebar and when they came back they started court as usual.
Kurt Nurmi mentioned bringing in a video next week. Any chance the judge is waiting for that? It is a little interesting that HLN had one of their staff pose with Martinez and act like an excited school girl over him.
Then again.. Nurmi couldn't even get Casarez's comment correct.. so who knows it if was really an HLN staff. He just asked about it.
Did you see the blonde haired younger woman in the courtroom audience? She was the HLN staff member who, in the video played on HLN, stated she saw Juan in the elevator and went on and on about how fab he is. At least that's what I gathered from it.
Didn't see that (I have it up in the background) I hear they are questioning the jurors separately.. must be about Martinez autograph thing.
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There are lots of men and boys who use girls who let them. I do not believe that is what happened with Jodi and Travis as can be seen in the video where he is relaying the story of his brush with death and Jodi is laying with her head in his lap and maneuvering his hands and arms around her in front of all his friends.
He did so many wonderful things for Jodi that Juan can point to to prove Travis was not 'using and abusing' Jodi.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 28, 2013, 01:23:58 PM
My 11 year old actually questioned whether Juan Martinez signing the cane and posing with 'fans' was a good idea. He thought it was inappropriate and that Juan should wait until the trial is over.
I am questioning if Jodi's testimony trashing Travis is appropriate ... trashing Travis without any backup except her word.
I am also questioning the legality of the "expert" witnesses called upon to testify. Jodi's mindset was assessed without any assurance that there was any truth to Jodi's claims.
Something is not right.
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Juan Martinez with Katie Wick (from the Dr. Drew Show
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446178988791582&set=pb.160510210691796.-2207520000.1364497417&type=3&theater
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HLN is doing a mock up with the camera tonight.
Shower to right in diagram
camera that takes photo of shoe dragging Travis to left
http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/tabularasa6/media/cs58_zpsa6c6020f.jpg.html?sort=3&o=65
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=> Natalee Holloway
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