Lively Case Discussion #504 7/31 - 8/3/2006

[igsigs]

Translation/Summation by MF of 7/5 Bon Dia article re suit VDS v Aruba.

http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/July/05/A-05-07-2006.pdf

It says that the Judge decided to close the case and will decide before    August 1st.

The main reason he wanted the Prosecuter's office to give him a full report on the case, is that he wanted to know if Joran was still considered a suspect, which Karin failed to give him because there was a new witness and new information. The Judge decided this week not to wait any longer and will make his decision this month.

[Jacqueline]

Good morning Monkeys!

The pasword is.......

HOT!

So everyone keep cool today!

[San]

I agree.  After all, if you are 17 and have a drugged girl in a car, where are you going to take her for that gang bang?  How about your own apartment where the only person home in the household is your father who really wants to join the party?  Or are you going to a public beach at 2 am?  Naw...not really.  Going to the house, of course.

yep, especially when Momma is gone  

Exactly.  Joiran's own words to Anita when she returned from Holland were this would have never happened if you were home.  I took that as I would have never taken the girl to our home.

[Peaches]

I agree.  After all, if you are 17 and have a drugged girl in a car, where are you going to take her for that gang bang?  How about your own apartment where the only person home in the household is your father who really wants to join the party?  Or are you going to a public beach at 2 am?  Naw...not really.  Going to the house, of course.

yep, especially when Momma is gone  

Exactly.  Joiran's own words to Anita when she returned from Holland were this would have never happened if you were home.  I took that as I would have never taken the girl to our home.

Good morning.  I agree.  If Momma had been home, the scene of the crime would have been elsewhere.  The house was just too convenient because the "boys" were home alone.

[Nut44x4]

This is sort of O/T, but there has been some talk here in the past about the Coffee Pot Ghost site. There were frequent references there to Natalee's disappearance. Suddenly, when I type in the site for CPG, it takes me to a site for a radio talk show host. Does anyone know what's up with that? Did he have something to do with the previous CPG site?

Is this the URL you are looking for???
http://www.coffeepotghost.com/NATALEE_HOLLOWAY_CASE_index.html
It works okay for me.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

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Speaking of Michael Posner, How does anyone ever do a search on these characters when they have so many different names!  

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Casino boss Michael Posner denies that he knows van der Sloot and denies ever extending him casino credit. Posner's lawyer Allan Ackerman says Posner was in Chicago when Holloway vanished and returned to Aruba the day after.

Now 64 years old, here's the intelligence report on Michael William Posner:


aka Michael Rubins and Irving Goldstein.


his family still resides in Riverwoods.

his criminal profile lists involvement in illegal gambling, strip clubs and vending machines.

criminal history dates to 1960 includes numerous arrests and successful tax and racketeering prosecutions.

Posner says it was he who voluntarily turned over this casino surveillance tape to Aruban authorities and that he is furious they have allowed ABC News to broadcast it.

Posner says he has paid the expenses for private investigators to come here and assist in the search for Holloway and according to his lawyer: "He has nothin' to do with nothing" in the murder case.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=i...tive&id=3936339


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GOLDSTEIN!!!  HOLEY MOLEY ANNA....I think you have just possibly answered some nagging questions that has plagued me for months....NOW THINGS MIGHT BE FALLING IN PLACE !!  GOLDSTEIN..uummmmm now where do we know that name from... ....secret sources that can't be told....same last name.....HOLEY MLOEY!!!

 This is absolutely ridiculous and unacceptable IMO.

[mrs. red]

Morning Monkeys!!

 What's happening???

[cubbeegirl]

Good morning mrs. red! Just trying to get caught up and get everything set right on my puter again. I asked last night, but no one replied so maybe you can see me... have I missed anything of importance this past week and/or where should I look , no way will I get caught up from a weeks absence when I was still not caught up from a ten day absence

[mrs. red]

Good morning mrs. red! Just trying to get caught up and get everything set right on my puter again. I asked last night, but no one replied so maybe you can see me... have I missed anything of importance this past week and/or where should I look , no way will I get caught up from a weeks absence when I was still not caught up from a ten day absence

Not really Cubbee... there just hasn't been any news.  There is a lot of talk... the only thing that has stood out to me is the discussion a few pages back of the police car transcript... a gun is mentioned?  It seems like we never really picked up on that before... so for me, I guess that's it.  I keep hearing rumors that the judge is going to rule this week...Hoping for a positive ruling!

[Jacqueline]

Good morning mrs. red! Just trying to get caught up and get everything set right on my puter again. I asked last night, but no one replied so maybe you can see me... have I missed anything of importance this past week and/or where should I look , no way will I get caught up from a weeks absence when I was still not caught up from a ten day absence

Not really, Cubbee...

Welcome back!

[mrs. red]

Ok Y'all... I will be back in later.... have to run and work....

are y'all really banned from Aruba?  Pretty funny if ya are !!

So I am told...

[Jacqueline]

Morning Mrs!

 

[cubbeegirl]

Thanks mrs. red and Jacq! It was very hard to not have my computer, but the benefits are well worth the wait! My son has his computer running now also, so hopefully our problems are solved for a good while.

I read the conversation about the gun and I found it very interesting also mrs. red....

[cubbeegirl]

Ok Y'all... I will be back in later.... have to run and work....

are y'all really banned from Aruba?  Pretty funny if ya are !!

So I am told...

I know that you and red are heartbroken over this development.....  

[Whodunit?]

Morning all!

I remember the gun talk, too. Anyone know if one was taken in as evidence?  (As if it would still be around.......)

[Peaches]

GOLDSTEIN!!!  HOLEY MOLEY ANNA....I think you have just possibly answered some nagging questions that has plagued me for months....NOW THINGS MIGHT BE FALLING IN PLACE !!  GOLDSTEIN..uummmmm now where do we know that name from... ....secret sources that can't be told....same last name.....HOLEY MLOEY!!!

 This is absolutely ridiculous and unacceptable IMO.

Angie, I would agree with you if I thought I could figure out what is being said here.  What kinda questions have plagued you?  Any that have not plagued us all from time to time?  What is the meaning of life?  Where do we know that name from?  I don't know.  Where?  

If you have something to say, spit it out.  Say what you mean.  Those of us lurking and working appreciate being able to figure out what's going on without a road map.  TY.

[Whodunit?]

Peaches,

Someone who used to be a frequent poster here has the same last name as one of Posner's aliases.  Now, that doesn't mean he's related, it's a fairly common last name, but it got me to thinking, too.........

[cubbeegirl]

Peaches,

Someone who used to be a frequent poster here has the same last name as one of Posner's aliases.  Now, that doesn't mean he's related, it's a fairly common last name, but it got me to thinking, too.........

Thanks for clearing that up whodunit.... I was in the dark also.....

[Whodunit?]

Peaches,

Someone who used to be a frequent poster here has the same last name as one of Posner's aliases.  Now, that doesn't mean he's related, it's a fairly common last name, but it got me to thinking, too.........

Thanks for clearing that up whodunit.... I was in the dark also.....

It's probably just a coincidence, but you never know.  Especially in this case.

[mrs. red]

G'nite Monkeys

Watched an old 1957 movies the other night..
Just made me wonder about a few thing.. and negative posters.
"Twelve Angry Men"

SeeeYaaaByeeeeeeeeeee

I love that movie, OF... and my theory on the dark side is that they secretly think/know that their parents may just fall apart and give up... or that they would/could never be as strong as Beth and Dave to keep on keeping on in the face of all that has been put before them!!