RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 4

[Rob]

i know where curacao is .. thanx...NOW SIT DOWN!

[TTownMike]

Did I miss something?  Was Dash on TV?  Somebody please clue me in!!  

And-YES to the T-shirt!!  The one TT suggested

Bill O'Reilly!

[dragonfly]

Nat's mom is amazing!

Yes she is.  I am so impressed with her and my heart goes out to her.  What a mom!!!!

[huntsy]

Yall... magazines and show people won't leave me the heck alone now! AGH! I
I'm not picking up my phone for a while.  haha

Inside Edition called TWICE! in like, 20 minutes!

I think I might have opened Pandora's box.... danggit!

If People magazine call I think you shoud do it. They do great stories.

Is that a joke? haha

Uh no. They did good stories on Laci Peterson and Lori Hacking. I just meant that they could get the story out there.

[Another K in Texas]

Any small islands nearby? And have they been checked?

[---]

Nat's mom is amazing!

Yes she is.  I am so impressed with her and my heart goes out to her.  What a mom!!!!

i love this woman!  She's looking less exhausted... she still looks tired, but thank goodness she is so strong.  She's absolutely amazing!

[rogers]

Just to clear this up....if you use regular AOL AIM (without the Direct Computer Connect (DCC)) or YahooIM, you're logged in via username/password, and your IP address is recorded.  Your conversations over either applications ARE logged via AOL or Yahoo's system and are retained for a certain number of days.  After that period is up, in order to get the conversations, like say, for an investigation, the provider (AOL or Yahoo) can go to backups or other storage to pull it with the right information from law enforcement (usernames, dates, approx times, etc).  In fact, people getting AOL IM nicks these days (since May) are presented with a Terms of Service agreement which explicitly states that AOL has the right to use your conversation with another AIM user in *any* manner they wish.  The same logging, BTW, applies for wireless devices like cell phones, Treos, or Blackberrys.

While the DCC for AOL looks as though it directly connects to another computer, it too leaves a "trail" and temp files on both users' computers (which can be restored forensically)  especially if you're using a Windoze based computer.

Privacy on the Internet *only* applies to what you're ignorant of the provider doing, as with the recent arrest of student in the spring here in the DC area who was sending anonymous threating AOL IM's to other people about bombing a high school. The only way to keep your conversations private is for both users to use an encryption too like GAIM messenger with a PKI to encode both ends.

Another user and I were discussing this, then we took the discussion to the back channels as it was getting too technical.  I would love to give him the courtesy of referring to him by his login, but it is too hard to parse back too many pages and look it up.

Up through 1998 AOL IM used Server to peer connections.  We had philosophical reasons for that.  I assumed that AOL still did.   But based on our discussions, I am convince that AOL no longer does IM this way.

[Red]

Yall... magazines and show people won't leave me the heck alone now! AGH! I
I'm not picking up my phone for a while.  haha

Inside Edition called TWICE! in like, 20 minutes!

I think I might have opened Pandora's box.... danggit!

O'Reilly called it a "World Exclusive"

Dash has graced Scared Monkeys with her info, stories and presence for 2 weeks. Who has had the exclusive?

We don't like consider her an exclusive, she's just our little Dash. On every day and spreading the word of Natalee as any friend would do.

[Hagie9]

Nat's mom is amazing!

Yes she is.  I am so impressed with her and my heart goes out to her.  What a mom!!!!

i love this woman!  She's looking less exhausted... she still looks tired, but thank goodness she is so strong.  She's absolutely amazing!

She shows such strength. It's absolutely amazing to me. I am a Christian also but I don't know that I would be able to carry myself the way that she has. Respect, that is the word that she brings to mind.

[Rob]

take the tech talk back to the back channels...

[---]

Yall... magazines and show people won't leave me the heck alone now! AGH! I
I'm not picking up my phone for a while.  haha

Inside Edition called TWICE! in like, 20 minutes!

I think I might have opened Pandora's box.... danggit!

If People magazine call I think you shoud do it. They do great stories.

Is that a joke? haha

Uh no. They did good stories on Laci Peterson and Lori Hacking. I just meant that they could get the story out there.

Haha... I already talked to People and they totally slanted the story and misquoted me and almost made me cry... that's why I was so scared to talk to any media...

(I don't think I'm going to do anything else... I did two things and one went bad... that's half! haha)

[AzRose]

S-FL: What a chilling story.  Sorry to say, but I'm not surprised to hear this.   Thankfully, she was one lucky girl.

[DT]

She still thinks her daughter is alive.

[rogers]

Yall... magazines and show people won't leave me the heck alone now! AGH! I
I'm not picking up my phone for a while.  haha

Inside Edition called TWICE! in like, 20 minutes!

I think I might have opened Pandora's box.... danggit!

If People magazine call I think you shoud do it. They do great stories.

Is that a joke? haha

Uh no. They did good stories on Laci Peterson and Lori Hacking. I just meant that they could get the story out there.

Hey Dash, do you need an agent  

[TTownMike]

Nat's mom is amazing!

Yes she is.  I am so impressed with her and my heart goes out to her.  What a mom!!!!

WOW!

[heavyheart]

Natalee's mom is so incredibly strong.  She is a class act.  If Natalee is anything like her mom, I would never beleive that she did the things the press is saying.

[Vorpman]

Just to clear this up....if you use regular AOL AIM (without the Direct Computer Connect (DCC)) or YahooIM, you're logged in via username/password, and your IP address is recorded.  Your conversations over either applications ARE logged via AOL or Yahoo's system and are retained for a certain number of days.  After that period is up, in order to get the conversations, like say, for an investigation, the provider (AOL or Yahoo) can go to backups or other storage to pull it with the right information from law enforcement (usernames, dates, approx times, etc).  In fact, people getting AOL IM nicks these days (since May) are presented with a Terms of Service agreement which explicitly states that AOL has the right to use your conversation with another AIM user in *any* manner they wish.  The same logging, BTW, applies for wireless devices like cell phones, Treos, or Blackberrys.

While the DCC for AOL looks as though it directly connects to another computer, it too leaves a "trail" and temp files on both users' computers (which can be restored forensically)  especially if you're using a Windoze based computer.

Privacy on the Internet *only* applies to what you're ignorant of the provider doing, as with the recent arrest of student in the spring here in the DC area who was sending anonymous threating AOL IM's to other people about bombing a high school. The only way to keep your conversations private is for both users to use an encryption too like GAIM messenger with a PKI to encode both ends.

Another user and I were discussing this, then we took the discussion to the back channels as it was getting too technical.  I would love to give him the courtesy of referring to him by his login, but it is too hard to parse back too many pages and look it up.

Up through 1998 AOL IM used Server to peer connections.  We had philosophical reasons for that.  I assumed that AOL still did.   But based on our discussions, I am convince that AOL no longer does IM this way.

I'm still here Roger

[dragonfly]

Nat's mom is amazing!

Yes she is.  I am so impressed with her and my heart goes out to her.  What a mom!!!!

i love this woman!  She's looking less exhausted... she still looks tired, but thank goodness she is so strong.  She's absolutely amazing!

She shows such strength. It's absolutely amazing to me. I am a Christian also but I don't know that I would be able to carry myself the way that she has. Respect, that is the word that she brings to mind.

You can really tell she has lost weight.  I see a difference in her since this started.  It's funny, I watched her dad today and sat here thinking how Natalee looks like him.  Then I just watched her mom and she looks like her too.  It's like she got the best of both of them.  That's cool.

[rogers]

Yall... magazines and show people won't leave me the heck alone now! AGH! I
I'm not picking up my phone for a while.  haha

Inside Edition called TWICE! in like, 20 minutes!

I think I might have opened Pandora's box.... danggit!

If People magazine call I think you shoud do it. They do great stories.

Is that a joke? haha

Uh no. They did good stories on Laci Peterson and Lori Hacking. I just meant that they could get the story out there.

Haha... I already talked to People and they totally slanted the story and misquoted me and almost made me cry... that's why I was so scared to talk to any media...

(I don't think I'm going to do anything else... I did two things and one went bad... that's half! haha)

You really should have your own recording of any interviews that you give.

[---]

She still thinks her daughter is alive.

I still do, too.