RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 4

[dragonfly]

georgiablues welcome to our craziness!!!!!

And just so you know, posting is like eating Pringles...once you pop you can't stop!!!!!  

[bamabelle11]

I have no desire to really go there now just cause i'm disgusted with the police. NOt saying i would never go there...

No way would I send my 18yr old there or any other foreign country.... if she wants to go by herself she can go to gulf shores

[sarah]

I would go, and if my son went at 20 I would be ok with it.  As a senior in hs, I would have gone with or .....I'm not sure.

[DJTAYLOR]

The search of the VDS mansion must have been ordered by Mark Furhman,  lead investigator on the case

is this happening right now?

Just to keep perspective on things.  The VDS family lives in a modest home, not a mansion by any stretch.

i think this is geraldsgirlfriend's way of joking/sarcasm.  mark furhman was the lead investigator on the jon benet ramsey case, that is still unsolved to this day.

good point bamajo..............:0)

[Shataken]

too many reports of 'date rape' drugs.  No idea if they are true, but no way would I let my child go anywhere except inside the good ole US.  Anything can happen here, but at least we have cops that know how to conduct an investigation.

[bamajo]

I think it is TOTALLY wrong to contact the suspects families!  They are suffering too, and in addition aren't the ones to make justice happen!

To do such a thing suggests we somehow KNOW the truth here...we don't.

What we do know is these three kids were the last ones known to be with Natalee.  We must demand they are forced under FAIR interrogation techniques to tell the truth!

But to go after the families is just not appropriate. As much as we want to hate them right now, it's wrong to add to their suffering.

Again, to get justice we must go after those whose job it is to bring justice.  That's not the families.

The families of the 3 men know exactly what is going on...and ARE in the best position to "encourage" their son(s) to confess and end the torture of Natalee's family.  I don't hate the mothers - however, if the mothers had simply paid some kind of attention to "raising the boy(s)" instead of just turning them loose at the bars to drink and gamble, none of this would have happened in the first place.  It is very obvious that these mothers were entirely lazy in the job of teaching morality in the first place.  It is high time they heard about that.

ouch, brenda.  casting the first stone?  we don't know one whit about how these boys were raised.  there is such a thing known as "free will".  i believe adam & eve and cain & abel exercised it.

i'm not judging you, but i do believe the above post is a little harsh, and i think it in very rude and bad form to personally call the families' of the boys.  the government and the investigators, i don't have a problem with, but calling the boys' families is very bad sportsmanship.

[dragonfly]

After this is all over, I would go, IF it is resolved in a way that I feel the government there did their job.  If not, why would I want to visit a place where if a crime IS commited it turns into such a public nightmare and justice may not be done.  It all depends on the  outcome of this situation.

[Geraldosgirlfriend]

If a lawyer can get Michael Jackson cleared on all counts when he lives with a monkey, changed from a black man to a white man in 10 years, has paid out previous child molestation settlements and admits that pyjama parties with children are "par for the course" how hard is it going to be to clear an honor student from a prominent family with no previous record whose daddy is Van der Straten's golf caddy.  I just don't see a happy "judicial" ending to this one.

[festa]

I would go, and if my son went at 20 I would be ok with it.  As a senior in hs, I would have gone with or .....I'm not sure.

My family and I are making our 7th trip to Aruba this August - husband - 3 kids , 1 friend and my parents  My son is 20 - he goes to town with my husband and parents and a friend from home - no problems - ever

[nancy_drew]

Brenda, I beg your pardon, how do you know they didn't teach morality to their children?  Are you suggesting known murderers commit crimes because they were not taught morals?  Is this a joke?

This folks is how vigilantism starts.  As much as I despise these kids and what we've HEARD about them, I can't go that low!

[sarah]

Sportsmanship?  This is not a game.  There will be no winners here.

[waitingtoknow]

I would go.......and since I have no kids...I can't say for sure that I would let them go.....I guess it would all depend on their maturity level.  There are senior trips all the time...this is not something that happens...it is a freak occurrance....so I really don't know..

[festa]

too many reports of 'date rape' drugs.  No idea if they are true, but no way would I let my child go anywhere except inside the good ole US.  Anything can happen here, but at least we have cops that know how to conduct an investigation.

Date rape drugs are unfortunately used here in the US also.  Kids need to be careful in all situations whether here at home or abroad.  Never go out alone, don't leave a drink unattended and watch each other's back.

[dragonfly]

Brenda, I beg your pardon, how do you know they didn't teach morality to their children?  Are you suggesting known murderers commit crimes because they were not taught morals?  Is this a joke?

This folks is how vigilantism starts.  As much as I despise these kids and what we've HEARD about them, I can't go that low!

I'm with you on this one.  While I have "heard" some quesionable things about this family and Joran, I don't know any of it to be fact and I don't think I would start this yet.  If it came out that his parents knew all along what he did with her (if he did anything) and they helped him cover that up...THEN I might throw a few stones.

[bamabelle11]

I agree with Brenda's post... I mean this kid Joran is out of control at 17! and his dad gambles (illegally) with him? I mean come on... pay attention to what your kids are doing and teach them right an wrong. Otherwise they think  (or know in this case) they can get away with anything, because parents let them

[writenow]

bamajo,

fuhrman wasn't on jon benet ramsey case. he was lead investigator on the o.j. simpson case and advised on the martha moxley/kennedy sckekel case where he actually got pretty good press.

I think he's probably a pretty crack policeman, but unfortunately a bit of a racist.

[sarah]

I just moved from a small town where we never locked our doors---I wasn't even sure where the key to the house was---and I left my keys in the car--and sometimes even my purse.  I wonder if this is the way people on the island live too since there is so little crime.

[iquitos]

I think the lady is an Aruba flack.  I have not seen any timely reports in an international language coming out of Aruba.  When you look at her paper online it is always yesterday's edition.  OK, so they want to sell the actual paper but when you have a scoop and they eyes of the world on you, you put it out there you don't hide it so you get the credit.  I would say the Aruba press has done no better job of getting at the facts than the US MSM.  If they are so patriotic they ought to hustle a little and publish in languages the rest of the world can understand to make their place look better than it looks in terms of the investigation.  If she did indeed defend Joran then she is not objective.  Her paper is an add sheet for tourists not a real paper.  I would accept Dutch, Spanish or English, all of which I know.  I can wade through Papiamento too but not easily.  Plus, all the Aruba written press holds back the day's edition for tomorrow so they can sell more paper.  I did not even get AM Aruba today.  FM 95.1 is great if you speak Papiamento.

 

not to change the subject to julia renfro (editor of aruba today) but if I remember correctly, she was asked during an interview last week if her paper had ever found out or printed anything prejudicial towards joran.  she replied "oh no!  he's only been in our paper for all the wonderful things he's done!".  that may not be an exact quote, but her comment stuck w/me because it sounded so favorable about joran.

my point is:  I take now what she says or writes w/a grain of salt.

my first post here. been reading for days now.

[bamajo]

Sportsmanship?  This is not a game.  There will be no winners here.

bad choice of words.  i was using it as an euphimism.  it is rude and of bad conduct to call the boys' families.

and you are right, b/c they are all losers at this point.  the twitty-holloways have lost a daughter and the van der sloots and surinamese family (can't remember last name at this point) have each lost sons.  very sad and tragic indeed.

[dragonfly]

bamajo,

fuhrman wasn't on jon benet ramsey case. he was lead investigator on the o.j. simpson case and advised on the martha moxley/kennedy sckekel case where he actually got pretty good press.

I think he's probably a pretty crack policeman, but unfortunately a bit of a racist.

 I have always believed that the OJ case was a good case.  It was the racism that got him off.  For that I find fault with Fuhrman, but I believe he is a good detective.