RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 4

[CancunMole]

Something posted previously:

NativeLingo Says:
June 12th, 2005 at 11:19 pm
No ruffies related cases ever reported.

[hope]

Please- is there any truth to the fact that they used tracking devices on these three

[Ben]

Thanks Ben for the complete info about the date rape drug and its effects..are you a Dr?  Fox news just had former FBI agent in and discussed date rape drug.  ghb and rohipnal  poured or dropped in drink tasteless, person goes into stupor and memory loss.  After the attack there would be no recollection what happened.  Can be toxic if too much given or alcohol mixed with ghb greater effect...this just reported to collaborate what Ben reported...

no, I'm not a Dr., I just go out a lot in NYC and have had friends who have been drugged, most recently sat night, so to dash and mhbs05, i know you say that you don't know anything about drugs, please be careful, especially when you go off to school.  A guy doesn't have to be a dealer to drop something in your drink.

[keepfaith]

2 WEEKS PASSED AND NO CONFESSION YET. IS V. DER SLOOT SUPERMAN OR IS HE INNOCENT.??? I CAN NOT IMAGINE A KID FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE JUSTICE AND A CASE WITH SUCH A MAGNITUD IS STILL NOT TALKING. OR HE IS INNOCENT OR HE IS SUPERMAN?? GOD HAS A REASON WITH ALL THIS. THE YOUTH WANTS TO HAVE FUN WITH PARTYING, DRINKING, DRUGS AND SEX. THIS IS  THE CONSEQUENCES. NATALLEE WAS DRUNK, THAT IS WHAT THE 2 SURNAMESE BROTHERS ARE SAYING, IF SO WHY YOU TOOK HER INTO YOUR CAR???WHAT FUN CAN YOU HAVE WITH A DRUNKEN PERSON???YOU GUYS ASKED FOR PROBLEMS, SO FEEL THE HEAT NOW!!AND THAT GIRLFRIEND OF NATALEE SAYING THAT SHE LOOKED WEIRD IN THE BATHROOM AND SHE WAS DRUNK, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU REALLY ARE NOT A REAL GIRLFIEND. GIRLFRIENDS WATCH ONE OVER THE OTHER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GRAB HER BY HER ARMS AND BRING HER TO THE HOTEL, ESPECIALLY KNOWING SHE HAD TO CATCH THE FLIGHT IN THE MORNING. GOD IS SHOWING THE YOUTH OR YOU SERVE ME OR THE DEVIL. ALCOHOL, DRUGS IS THE DEVIL PARTYING WITH YOU AND SEX SHOULD BE WITH YOUR PARTNER NOT ANYBODY YOU MET AND THE SAME DAY YOU HAD SEX, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK. HOPE NATALEE IS STILL ALIVE AND THIS IS A LESSON FOR PARENTS THAT GAVE THEIR KIDS PERMISSION TO BE LATE AT NIGHT ON STREETS AND THE YOUTH THAT THINK THEY CAN HANDLE ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. I WILL BE PRAYING FOR THE STRENGHTH OF THE PARENTS OF BOTH SIDES. GOD HELP THEM, I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THEIR SHOES.
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[mbhs05]

I really think that some people should leave dash and the chaperones alone.  The kids were 18!  They are all going off to college in less then 3 months without parental supervision.  The kids were looking out for each other as even stated by dash asking Natalee if she was okay and they went into another bar to make sure nobody was left behind.  And so what if they were drinking...the drinking age is 18 in Aruba.  How many 19 year old Americans cross the Canadian border to drink on the weekend (where the drinking age is 19).

question is how many people in here drank before they were 21? before 16? i was.... it is not the chap's or other students fault. these adults are just that ADULTS....

Thanks guys!  I think a lot of people don't realize that the majority of the people who went on the trip aren't drinkers... they drank some because it's legal there and we had free food and drinks... you take advantage of what's given to you.  
Also, the drug allegations are just silly... we're all afraid of drug dealers! haha

Haha yeah...drug dealers in Mountain Brook? When we did the drug survey no one knew the answers except for about alcohol and pot...I mean really.

Seriously... we don't know anything about drugs, because we don't do them!  There's no time when your busy fighting over who can have the highest GPA!! haha

Well at least it's not like other places...I fear all weird shady people...including drug dealers. And I think we're all like that here.

[keepfaith]

2 WEEKS PASSED AND NO CONFESSION YET. IS V. DER SLOOT SUPERMAN OR IS HE INNOCENT.??? I CAN NOT IMAGINE A KID FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE JUSTICE AND A CASE WITH SUCH A MAGNITUD IS STILL NOT TALKING. OR HE IS INNOCENT OR HE IS SUPERMAN?? GOD HAS A REASON WITH ALL THIS. THE YOUTH WANTS TO HAVE FUN WITH PARTYING, DRINKING, DRUGS AND SEX. THIS IS  THE CONSEQUENCES. NATALLEE WAS DRUNK, THAT IS WHAT THE 2 SURNAMESE BROTHERS ARE SAYING, IF SO WHY YOU TOOK HER INTO YOUR CAR???WHAT FUN CAN YOU HAVE WITH A DRUNKEN PERSON???YOU GUYS ASKED FOR PROBLEMS, SO FEEL THE HEAT NOW!!AND THAT GIRLFRIEND OF NATALEE SAYING THAT SHE LOOKED WEIRD IN THE BATHROOM AND SHE WAS DRUNK, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU REALLY ARE NOT A REAL GIRLFIEND. GIRLFRIENDS WATCH ONE OVER THE OTHER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GRAB HER BY HER ARMS AND BRING HER TO THE HOTEL, ESPECIALLY KNOWING SHE HAD TO CATCH THE FLIGHT IN THE MORNING. GOD IS SHOWING THE YOUTH OR YOU SERVE ME OR THE DEVIL. ALCOHOL, DRUGS IS THE DEVIL PARTYING WITH YOU AND SEX SHOULD BE WITH YOUR PARTNER NOT ANYBODY YOU MET AND THE SAME DAY YOU HAD SEX, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK. HOPE NATALEE IS STILL ALIVE AND THIS IS A LESSON FOR PARENTS THAT GAVE THEIR KIDS PERMISSION TO BE LATE AT NIGHT ON STREETS AND THE YOUTH THAT THINK THEY CAN HANDLE ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. I WILL BE PRAYING FOR THE STRENGHTH OF THE PARENTS OF BOTH SIDES. GOD HELP THEM, I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THEIR SHOES.
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[klaasend]

Please- is there any truth to the fact that they used tracking devices on these three

It was just reported in the news today that they have been electronically monitored since they were first interviewed.  I don't know if that means tracking devices or just phone taps??

[DT]

2 WEEKS PASSED AND NO CONFESSION YET. IS V. DER SLOOT SUPERMAN OR IS HE INNOCENT.??? I CAN NOT IMAGINE A KID FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE JUSTICE AND A CASE WITH SUCH A MAGNITUD IS STILL NOT TALKING. OR HE IS INNOCENT OR HE IS SUPERMAN?? GOD HAS A REASON WITH ALL THIS. THE YOUTH WANTS TO HAVE FUN WITH PARTYING, DRINKING, DRUGS AND SEX. THIS IS  THE CONSEQUENCES. NATALLEE WAS DRUNK, THAT IS WHAT THE 2 SURNAMESE BROTHERS ARE SAYING, IF SO WHY YOU TOOK HER INTO YOUR CAR???WHAT FUN CAN YOU HAVE WITH A DRUNKEN PERSON???YOU GUYS ASKED FOR PROBLEMS, SO FEEL THE HEAT NOW!!AND THAT GIRLFRIEND OF NATALEE SAYING THAT SHE LOOKED WEIRD IN THE BATHROOM AND SHE WAS DRUNK, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU REALLY ARE NOT A REAL GIRLFIEND. GIRLFRIENDS WATCH ONE OVER THE OTHER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GRAB HER BY HER ARMS AND BRING HER TO THE HOTEL, ESPECIALLY KNOWING SHE HAD TO CATCH THE FLIGHT IN THE MORNING. GOD IS SHOWING THE YOUTH OR YOU SERVE ME OR THE DEVIL. ALCOHOL, DRUGS IS THE DEVIL PARTYING WITH YOU AND SEX SHOULD BE WITH YOUR PARTNER NOT ANYBODY YOU MET AND THE SAME DAY YOU HAD SEX, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK. HOPE NATALEE IS STILL ALIVE AND THIS IS A LESSON FOR PARENTS THAT GAVE THEIR KIDS PERMISSION TO BE LATE AT NIGHT ON STREETS AND THE YOUTH THAT THINK THEY CAN HANDLE ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. I WILL BE PRAYING FOR THE STRENGHTH OF THE PARENTS OF BOTH SIDES. GOD HELP THEM, I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THEIR SHOES.
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What is it about this case that seems to be drawing all of the nuts out of the woodwork.

[---]

2 WEEKS PASSED AND NO CONFESSION YET. IS V. DER SLOOT SUPERMAN OR IS HE INNOCENT.??? I CAN NOT IMAGINE A KID FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE JUSTICE AND A CASE WITH SUCH A MAGNITUD IS STILL NOT TALKING. OR HE IS INNOCENT OR HE IS SUPERMAN?? GOD HAS A REASON WITH ALL THIS. THE YOUTH WANTS TO HAVE FUN WITH PARTYING, DRINKING, DRUGS AND SEX. THIS IS  THE CONSEQUENCES. NATALLEE WAS DRUNK, THAT IS WHAT THE 2 SURNAMESE BROTHERS ARE SAYING, IF SO WHY YOU TOOK HER INTO YOUR CAR???WHAT FUN CAN YOU HAVE WITH A DRUNKEN PERSON???YOU GUYS ASKED FOR PROBLEMS, SO FEEL THE HEAT NOW!!AND THAT GIRLFRIEND OF NATALEE SAYING THAT SHE LOOKED WEIRD IN THE BATHROOM AND SHE WAS DRUNK, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU REALLY ARE NOT A REAL GIRLFIEND. GIRLFRIENDS WATCH ONE OVER THE OTHER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GRAB HER BY HER ARMS AND BRING HER TO THE HOTEL, ESPECIALLY KNOWING SHE HAD TO CATCH THE FLIGHT IN THE MORNING. GOD IS SHOWING THE YOUTH OR YOU SERVE ME OR THE DEVIL. ALCOHOL, DRUGS IS THE DEVIL PARTYING WITH YOU AND SEX SHOULD BE WITH YOUR PARTNER NOT ANYBODY YOU MET AND THE SAME DAY YOU HAD SEX, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK. HOPE NATALEE IS STILL ALIVE AND THIS IS A LESSON FOR PARENTS THAT GAVE THEIR KIDS PERMISSION TO BE LATE AT NIGHT ON STREETS AND THE YOUTH THAT THINK THEY CAN HANDLE ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. I WILL BE PRAYING FOR THE STRENGHTH OF THE PARENTS OF BOTH SIDES. GOD HELP THEM, I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THEIR SHOES.
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Please don't talk in all caps... it makes me crosseyed.  

Just so you know, Nat did not willingly have sex with anyone...  we had talked about it before, we planned to be virgins until we get married.  Don't judge her, she didn't do anything wrong.

[lee]

I'll go on record stating that I think sending teenagers to a party island  with prostitution and a casino plus drinking allowed at 18 to be a utterly senseless act, "tradition" or not.....

okay....send your boys......but why send your girls?

sure, if your 18 you can go where you want.....but why would parents otherwise fund this activity?

if only one girl dies out of thousands , I guess some would say its worth it.....

but none of this very sad episode will change some parents.......

I am speaking as a parent of three, with the youngest girl just turned 20......she had the misfortune to have something slipped into her drink at a mall, during the day, with friends around, only to be taken outside in her stupor and raped... this happened several yrs ago......SO I KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ANYTWHERE AT ANY TIME and my dtr is a good kid.....

but why take chances?.........why temp fate?....

there are too many amoral sociopathic Joran's around in this world.....


we have to change our mindset ...

[lee]

I'll go on record stating that I think sending teenagers to a party island  with prostitution and a casino plus drinking allowed at 18 to be a utterly senseless act, "tradition" or not.....

okay....send your boys......but why send your girls?

sure, if your 18 you can go where you want.....but why would parents otherwise fund this activity?

if only one girl dies out of thousands , I guess some would say its worth it.....

but none of this very sad episode will change some parents.......

I am speaking as a parent of three, with the youngest girl just turned 20......she had the misfortune to have something slipped into her drink at a mall, during the day, with friends around, only to be taken outside in her stupor and raped... this happened several yrs ago......SO I KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ANYTWHERE AT ANY TIME and my dtr is a good kid.....

but why take chances?.........why temp fate?....

there are too many amoral sociopathic Joran's around in this world.....


we have to change our mindset ...

[pinemeadows]

Anybody know if the men in white suits are STILL in that house????

[DJTAYLOR]

2 WEEKS PASSED AND NO CONFESSION YET. IS V. DER SLOOT SUPERMAN OR IS HE INNOCENT.??? I CAN NOT IMAGINE A KID FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE JUSTICE AND A CASE WITH SUCH A MAGNITUD IS STILL NOT TALKING. OR HE IS INNOCENT OR HE IS SUPERMAN?? GOD HAS A REASON WITH ALL THIS. THE YOUTH WANTS TO HAVE FUN WITH PARTYING, DRINKING, DRUGS AND SEX. THIS IS  THE CONSEQUENCES. NATALLEE WAS DRUNK, THAT IS WHAT THE 2 SURNAMESE BROTHERS ARE SAYING, IF SO WHY YOU TOOK HER INTO YOUR CAR???WHAT FUN CAN YOU HAVE WITH A DRUNKEN PERSON???YOU GUYS ASKED FOR PROBLEMS, SO FEEL THE HEAT NOW!!AND THAT GIRLFRIEND OF NATALEE SAYING THAT SHE LOOKED WEIRD IN THE BATHROOM AND SHE WAS DRUNK, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU REALLY ARE NOT A REAL GIRLFIEND. GIRLFRIENDS WATCH ONE OVER THE OTHER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GRAB HER BY HER ARMS AND BRING HER TO THE HOTEL, ESPECIALLY KNOWING SHE HAD TO CATCH THE FLIGHT IN THE MORNING. GOD IS SHOWING THE YOUTH OR YOU SERVE ME OR THE DEVIL. ALCOHOL, DRUGS IS THE DEVIL PARTYING WITH YOU AND SEX SHOULD BE WITH YOUR PARTNER NOT ANYBODY YOU MET AND THE SAME DAY YOU HAD SEX, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK. HOPE NATALEE IS STILL ALIVE AND THIS IS A LESSON FOR PARENTS THAT GAVE THEIR KIDS PERMISSION TO BE LATE AT NIGHT ON STREETS AND THE YOUTH THAT THINK THEY CAN HANDLE ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. I WILL BE PRAYING FOR THE STRENGHTH OF THE PARENTS OF BOTH SIDES. GOD HELP THEM, I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THEIR SHOES.
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What is it about this case that seems to be drawing all of the nuts out of the woodwork.

hahahah,i guess there is just alot of consearned parents out there, we must be patient with everybody :0) AHAHAHH

[rsu]

I really think that some people should leave dash and the chaperones alone.  The kids were 18!  They are all going off to college in less then 3 months without parental supervision.  The kids were looking out for each other as even stated by dash asking Natalee if she was okay and they went into another bar to make sure nobody was left behind.  And so what if they were drinking...the drinking age is 18 in Aruba.  How many 19 year old Americans cross the Canadian border to drink on the weekend (where the drinking age is 19).

question is how many people in here drank before they were 21? before 16? i was.... it is not the chap's or other students fault. these adults are just that ADULTS....

Thanks guys!  I think a lot of people don't realize that the majority of the people who went on the trip aren't drinkers... they drank some because it's legal there and we had free food and drinks... you take advantage of what's given to you.  
Also, the drug allegations are just silly... we're all afraid of drug dealers! haha

Haha yeah...drug dealers in Mountain Brook? When we did the drug survey no one knew the answers except for about alcohol and pot...I mean really.

i am 24 and when i was 16-20 i drank a lot. never did drugs though. the older people on this board need to remember back to when they were our age... what were they doing? we are doing the same things... im sure that this type of stuff happened back then... its made more public now though. technology has changed everything. back then you would get stopped for a DUI and the cop would bring you home, no charges... now you get pictures taken put on billboards, newspaper, and the news.... come on people!!!

[Lurker]

Hey Ben--I'm in NYC too--I'd love to know where you went Sat. so I can avoid it! (Even just the block it's on and the first initial!)

[---]

I'll go on record stating that I think sending teenagers to a party island  with prostitution and a casino plus drinking allowed at 18 to be a utterly senseless act, "tradition" or not.....

okay....send your boys......but why send your girls?

sure, if your 18 you can go where you want.....but why would parents otherwise fund this activity?

if only one girl dies out of thousands , I guess some would say its worth it.....

but none of this very sad episode will change some parents.......

I am speaking as a parent of three, with the youngest girl just turned 20......she had the misfortune to have something slipped into her drink at a mall, during the day, with friends around, only to be taken outside in her stupor and raped... this happened several yrs ago......SO I KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ANYTWHERE AT ANY TIME and my dtr is a good kid.....

but why take chances?.........why temp fate?....

there are too many amoral sociopathic Joran's around in this world.....


we have to change our mindset ...

Wow, that's not sexist at all... oh wait, I'm lying, yes it is.


We didn't do anything wrong.  It's not her fault.  My parents are AWESOME... I am eternally grateful to them for all they've done for me.  I'm sure most of the students on the trip would say the same.  I dont think this trip was in any way a poor decision on anyone's part. Our parents aren't stupid... they look out for us. No one could have anticipated this... I guess it's easy for oyu to judge others, but seriously, give it a rest.

[Ben]

I'll go on record stating that I think sending teenagers to a party island  with prostitution and a casino plus drinking allowed at 18 to be a utterly senseless act, "tradition" or not.....

okay....send your boys......but why send your girls?

sure, if your 18 you can go where you want.....but why would parents otherwise fund this activity?

if only one girl dies out of thousands , I guess some would say its worth it.....

but none of this very sad episode will change some parents.......

I am speaking as a parent of three, with the youngest girl just turned 20......she had the misfortune to have something slipped into her drink at a mall, during the day, with friends around, only to be taken outside in her stupor and raped... this happened several yrs ago......SO I KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ANYTWHERE AT ANY TIME and my dtr is a good kid.....

but why take chances?.........why temp fate?....

there are too many amoral sociopathic Joran's around in this world.....


we have to change our mindset ...

can we save the speculation on wheter it is right or wrong to send kids to aruba for another post...we're not going to change each others minds on this and it is going in circles..imho

[CancunMole]

Previously posted:

arubagirl Says:
 
June 12th, 2005 at 1:58 pm

Cancun, v/d Sloot, who everyone seems to be concentrating, is prob. upper middle class. I’m guessing his father earns about $70,000 max per year (taking the $1=afl. 1.80 exchange rate). I think it’s more in the $55.000 range. It’s a lot of money by Aruban standards, but I doubt that they’re millionares.

[pinemeadows]

Quote:im sure that this type of stuff happened back then... its made more public now though. technology has changed everything. back then you would get stopped for a DUI and the cop would bring you home, no charges...

A DUI is a far cry from a case like this.  Believing that incidents like this occurred way back when and weren't made public is only true in a very limited sense.  

Violent crime has steadily escalated over the years - statistics will bear that out - and we are becoming more and more desensitized to it.  Look how many children are molested these days - look at Laci Peterson, Lori Hacking, and many, many others.  Sure they get more media coverage, but the numbers are simply up there, as opposed to the June Cleaver days.  Fact of life.

[Angels Whisper]

When I saw them dressed like they do here in the states at a crime scene my first thought was (Oh how I pray this is not the case) maybe he took Nat there to his home i, e, back yard to bury her. I know this sounds terrible, but that was my first thought.