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« Reply #220 on: June 16, 2005, 06:55:47 AM »

I saw mention of a Emily Jones on a website http://www.geocities.com/proud_college_republican/
which states she had been in Aruba a few weeks before and recognized one of the suspects.
Was there anymore to the story than that?
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« Reply #221 on: June 16, 2005, 07:13:24 AM »

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Good morning....anyone hear any more about the helicopter?


Fox News just reported that US sent a thermal heat helicopter to Aruba (which was someone posted to this forum yesterday)
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« Reply #222 on: June 16, 2005, 07:19:49 AM »

I'm confused...Greta on Fox had a spokesperson for the prosecution on last night...I could have sworn that woman said it was a Dutch helicopter.
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« Reply #223 on: June 16, 2005, 07:25:21 AM »

If Nat is no longer with us. Do you guys think all three are involved in a burial/disposal or just J?
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« Reply #224 on: June 16, 2005, 07:33:14 AM »

I believe all 3 are involved in some way.

I'm beginning to wonder if she's even on the island.
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« Reply #225 on: June 16, 2005, 07:34:41 AM »

BobnTexas, I saw the website you referenced about Emily Jones - that's the first I heard of it.

I imagine the way they hung out in the casinos and partied, a lot of visitors to Aruba probably recognize them.
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« Reply #226 on: June 16, 2005, 07:40:23 AM »

Pine - I am wondering so as well- I thought that she would be by now if there was a body.
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« Reply #227 on: June 16, 2005, 07:41:29 AM »

WonderWoman posted:
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Is it possible that Joran called Deepak and Satish, told them that after they dropped him and Natalee off at the beach, he brought her back to the hotel, but now that she is missing he needs to say that they were with him? They, being his friends, KNOW he wouldn't do anything bad, so they agree its okay to say they were all three together when she was dropped off. Now, that they realize their friend could have indeed been involved, they freak out and tell the truth?


Does that make sense?
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That makes a WHOLE lot of sense.
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« Reply #228 on: June 16, 2005, 07:42:05 AM »

I didn't realize that the linked page was updating it's information....thanks for putting that link back up. I notice there are pictures of the police searching some boats. The article isn't in English. I hope someone can translate that article about the yacht club search.
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« Reply #229 on: June 16, 2005, 07:45:15 AM »

Ignore my previous posting. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because it doesn't explain how Joran got home afterwards. Unfortunately, it looks like all 3 had to be involved.
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« Reply #230 on: June 16, 2005, 07:48:07 AM »

It will be interesting to see how the Judge rules today on the petition (or whatever it is called) from Joran's dad.

Does anyone know how long it will take them to test for drugs from the evidence they got yesterday???

They must know something by now from the cell phones and computers.
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« Reply #231 on: June 16, 2005, 07:52:22 AM »

Plus, and this is NOT to excuse them, whatever happened was not what they intended.  I say that because too many people saw her leaving with VDS and he had to know it.  If you intend to harm someone, you sure don't manage to be the last person seen with your victim.


He many have planned to have sex--even if it meant rape--but I don't think he planned a murder or kidnapping.  He knew she was part of a larger group and not some lone visitor.
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« Reply #232 on: June 16, 2005, 07:54:10 AM »

Tom and/or Red - I received an error message after linking to the PayPal page from your home page.  Any ideas???

Thx
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« Reply #233 on: June 16, 2005, 07:56:00 AM »

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If Nat is no longer with us. Do you guys think all three are involved in a burial/disposal or just J?


Here is my logic: All three had to be involved in the murder, since the Kalpoe brothers had to give Joran a ride home. After seeing that "something bad" had happened, they would have tried to dispose of the body at that point. Thus, all three would have been involved in a disposal of the body.
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« Reply #234 on: June 16, 2005, 07:59:14 AM »

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Tom and/or Red - I received an error message after linking to the PayPal page from your home page.  Any ideas???

Thx


This happened with a few folks about midnight last night...it may not have been fixed yet as everyone was pretty tired by sign-off time.  They do know about though.
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« Reply #235 on: June 16, 2005, 08:00:32 AM »

How closely were those three boys monitored after they were initially questioned?  Could it be possible Joran might have "placed" Natalee somewhere initially; and then, seeing all the publicity, do something else with her?...or is that too farteched?
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« Reply #236 on: June 16, 2005, 08:03:41 AM »

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WonderWoman posted:
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:20 am      

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Is it possible that Joran called Deepak and Satish, told them that after they dropped him and Natalee off at the beach, he brought her back to the hotel, but now that she is missing he needs to say that they were with him? They, being his friends, KNOW he wouldn't do anything bad, so they agree its okay to say they were all three together when she was dropped off. Now, that they realize their friend could have indeed been involved, they freak out and tell the truth?


Does that make sense?
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That makes a WHOLE lot of sense.


Agree!!
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« Reply #237 on: June 16, 2005, 08:05:23 AM »

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How closely were those three boys monitored after they were initially questioned?  Could it be possible Joran might have "placed" Natalee somewhere initially; and then, seeing all the publicity, do something else with her?...or is that too farteched?


That is one of the great unanswered questions: how closely the three young men were monitored, after they were initially questioned. When all is said and done, someone is going to write a book, documenting what was done -- and what was NOT done -- in this case.
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« Reply #238 on: June 16, 2005, 08:06:58 AM »

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WonderWoman posted:
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:20 am      

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Is it possible that Joran called Deepak and Satish, told them that after they dropped him and Natalee off at the beach, he brought her back to the hotel, but now that she is missing he needs to say that they were with him? They, being his friends, KNOW he wouldn't do anything bad, so they agree its okay to say they were all three together when she was dropped off. Now, that they realize their friend could have indeed been involved, they freak out and tell the truth?


Does that make sense?
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That makes a WHOLE lot of sense.


Agree!!


But that doesn't explain how Joran got home. I changed my mind on that one.
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« Reply #239 on: June 16, 2005, 08:07:49 AM »

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Here is my logic: All three had to be involved in the murder, since the Kalpoe brothers had to give Joran a ride home. After seeing that "something bad" had happened, they would have tried to dispose of the body at that point. Thus, all three would have been involved in a disposal of the body.[/quote


True.  Here's what I firmly believe:

1.  Joran and his buddies are familiar with drugs
2.  Joran and his buddies have slipped other gals this date rape drug.
3.  Joran and/or one of the buddies slipped this into Natalee's drink right before they left.
4.  Natalee was fine at the club - but the Kalpoes have said she was extremely extremely drunk, for lack of a better word.  Where did she do all this drinking exactly?  It was the drug, I'm sure.

Now here's where things get muddy:  I don't know much about white slavery, but folks who do say this is a distinct possibility.  And doesn't it seem like a body would/should have been found by now?  But then, it also seems like these young men would be scared to death, and 'fessed up by now too.   All the different possibilities are confusing.

I'm just amazed that young, first-time offenders can pull something like this off.
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