RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5

[Rob]

my friend was murdered last year while i was in aruba, by his room mate and the room mate went to work the next day. with my buddies body still in the house all day.. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04196/346094.stm


see for your self...

here is the follow up.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05124/498672.stm

believe me it can happen

[mbhs05]

I don't see a lot of difference in Aruba's handling of this case and the way Chandra Levy's disappearance was treated in Washington D.C.  I think I remember Gary Condit being given special treatment because he was a US Congressman.   IMO, we (US citizens) look rather ridiculous throwing so much blame and shame on Aruba when we have so many skeletons in our own closet.  

Wizard, you just keep my heading shaking from side to side with your sex slave theory!  Where are all of these slaves?

For the comments earlier about a 17 year old being capable of killing someone and then going to school.  We have a case in Chapel Hill, NC - much more affluent and better educated than the area in AL, where a teenager killed both his mother and father in their $700,000 home, shut their bodies  up in their bedroom, went to the prom, brought a small group back and had an after prom party, started staying in a hotel in Durham, went to school and may have continued with his life but an out of state relative called the police because they hadn't heard from the parents in a couple of weeks.   The age of a true sociopath is not really that important.    You can read about this case at the heraldsun.com - Adam Sapokowski - that spelling is more than likely wrong.

Ok sorry, I just have to say it.
They aren't better educated than us, I can tell you that!
Possibly more affluent though...but just possibly.
I just have to stick up for my town...and my school. They work us HARD and we get, by far, the best education in the state. We're usually a top 10 school, top 100 at the least.

[wwizard]

I don't see a lot of difference in Aruba's handling of this case and the way Chandra Levy's disappearance was treated in Washington D.C.  I think I remember Gary Condit being given special treatment because he was a US Congressman.   IMO, we (US citizens) look rather ridiculous throwing so much blame and shame on Aruba when we have so many skeletons in our own closet.  

Wizard, you just keep my heading shaking from side to side with your sex slave theory!  Where are all of these slaves?

For the comments earlier about a 17 year old being capable of killing someone and then going to school.  We have a case in Chapel Hill, NC - much more affluent and better educated than the area in AL, where a teenager killed both his mother and father in their $700,000 home, shut their bodies  up in their bedroom, went to the prom, brought a small group back and had an after prom party, started staying in a hotel in Durham, went to school and may have continued with his life but an out of state relative called the police because they hadn't heard from the parents in a couple of weeks.   The age of a true sociopath is not really that important.    You can read about this case at the heraldsun.com - Adam Sapokowski - that spelling is more than likely wrong.

I dont pay n e attention 2 the manistream media-corporate driven-truth secondary. Ive found that one can learn a tremendous amount frum the net, tho. One thing Ive learned is to follow the money trail.

[Twelve Monkeys]

SORRY GUYS I HAVE TO GO DELIVER SOMEHTING ILL BE BACK IN 30MIN! PLEASE SEND ANY MSG DIRECTED TO ME TO MY EMAIL! THANK YOU!   AMERICANINARUBA@HOTMAIL.COM

Make mine with extra pepperoni and no anchovies please.

[DJTAYLOR]

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americaninaruba is in the car right now and checking the area 3 blocks away from JORANS HOME and shes going to HI and the distance is aproximatly 6.5 kilometers, and apperantly in the month of june alone there are more then 3 children missing in the state of alabama and the police has no information on there disapearance so why is it THEY ARE STRESSING SO MUCH ON THE ARUBIAN POLICE DEPARTMENT(the alabama media) when they should be exposing these children also? or is it because there race or socialstatus that nothing is beeing done for them, in aruba there is only one case and in alabama there more then three reported children who knows how many adults just in the month of june alone :0)
just and observation ;0)

[kuaitzu]

Another interesting factor to me - I've seen all the garbage website posted by Joran - only 1 about the one brother.  And from what I did see - he didn't strike me as self-absorbed as Joran.  WHAT DO U THINK?

I agree about Valentijn. I've been studying the family..and it seems Valentijn has a girlfriend and is very attached to her. In the pics he always has the same girl..and Joran always a different one. If you read Valentijns site it seems he is a funny..easy going kid.

He is only 15 years old, give him a couple years!

It says on his Tickle site he is 19

[Candide]

I know the issue is not made up but the likelihood is much greater that she was raped and murdered.  If Aruba is such a center of sex slave trade, why in the world hasn't this been made more public considering parents are sending their children there to party?

[klaasend]

Another interesting factor to me - I've seen all the garbage website posted by Joran - only 1 about the one brother.  And from what I did see - he didn't strike me as self-absorbed as Joran.  WHAT DO U THINK?

I agree about Valentijn. I've been studying the family..and it seems Valentijn has a girlfriend and is very attached to her. In the pics he always has the same girl..and Joran always a different one. If you read Valentijns site it seems he is a funny..easy going kid.

He is only 15 years old, give him a couple years!

It says on his Tickle site he is 19

He lied! Alot of these web spaces require that you be 18, many kids lie about their age just so they can set up a site.

[DJTAYLOR]

I know the issue is not made up but the likelihood is much greater that she was raped and murdered.  If Aruba is such a center of sex slave trade, why in the world hasn't this been made more public considering parents are sending their children there to party?

i agree with you on this,,,,,,,,,,

[Armchair_Detective]

wwizard--

     Could Joran use 'trade' Natalee to pay off casino debts?

[KKM]

Good morning all!  After catching up on my reading and putting bits and pieces together, something is seriously nagging at me.  Please read, think about and see what you can come up with.  These are all observations from wwizard, Another K in Texas, Friend of Mickey John, West Coast guy, etc.

1.  Put some (not all, some) of wwizard's theory in place.
2.  Add in FOMJ's thoughts re: polis (which I think could be a real possibility).
3.  Throw in pop VDSloot (does he really have friends on the inside?).
4.  Now you may have the 3 boys, pop and an official involved.

(insert 6:30 am cell phone call)

5.  Does the older brother have any shady contacts from being on the internet during his spare time at work?
6.  Does Joran have any huge gambling debts?
7.  Did pop actually take Joran out of the country or could it have been someone else?

Those are my notes.  I truly think that at least some of these pieces fit together in a way no one has looked at before, so I am trusting "you all" to pokes holes and/or piece together.

[Candide]

I don't see a lot of difference in Aruba's handling of this case and the way Chandra Levy's disappearance was treated in Washington D.C.  I think I remember Gary Condit being given special treatment because he was a US Congressman.   IMO, we (US citizens) look rather ridiculous throwing so much blame and shame on Aruba when we have so many skeletons in our own closet.  

Wizard, you just keep my heading shaking from side to side with your sex slave theory!  Where are all of these slaves?

For the comments earlier about a 17 year old being capable of killing someone and then going to school.  We have a case in Chapel Hill, NC - much more affluent and better educated than the area in AL, where a teenager killed both his mother and father in their $700,000 home, shut their bodies  up in their bedroom, went to the prom, brought a small group back and had an after prom party, started staying in a hotel in Durham, went to school and may have continued with his life but an out of state relative called the police because they hadn't heard from the parents in a couple of weeks.   The age of a true sociopath is not really that important.    You can read about this case at the heraldsun.com - Adam Sapokowski - that spelling is more than likely wrong.

Ok sorry, I just have to say it.
They aren't better educated than us, I can tell you that!
Possibly more affluent though...but just possibly.
I just have to stick up for my town...and my school. They work us HARD and we get, by far, the best education in the state. We're usually a top 10 school, top 100 at the least.

I am sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes.  I don't have time to give you specific statistics right at the moment, but check out NC's educational ranking compared to Alabama.  Chapel Hill has the highest rating for public schools in NC and the University of North Carolina is located there.  I am positive the ranking for UNC is much higher than any university in Alabama.  If I am wrong, then I apologize but I am 99% certain, I'm right!

[Vorpman]

Which news organization/source is reporting that Joran has once again changed his story to those of the other teens?

[mbhs05]

I don't see a lot of difference in Aruba's handling of this case and the way Chandra Levy's disappearance was treated in Washington D.C.  I think I remember Gary Condit being given special treatment because he was a US Congressman.   IMO, we (US citizens) look rather ridiculous throwing so much blame and shame on Aruba when we have so many skeletons in our own closet.  

Wizard, you just keep my heading shaking from side to side with your sex slave theory!  Where are all of these slaves?

For the comments earlier about a 17 year old being capable of killing someone and then going to school.  We have a case in Chapel Hill, NC - much more affluent and better educated than the area in AL, where a teenager killed both his mother and father in their $700,000 home, shut their bodies  up in their bedroom, went to the prom, brought a small group back and had an after prom party, started staying in a hotel in Durham, went to school and may have continued with his life but an out of state relative called the police because they hadn't heard from the parents in a couple of weeks.   The age of a true sociopath is not really that important.    You can read about this case at the heraldsun.com - Adam Sapokowski - that spelling is more than likely wrong.

Ok sorry, I just have to say it.
They aren't better educated than us, I can tell you that!
Possibly more affluent though...but just possibly.
I just have to stick up for my town...and my school. They work us HARD and we get, by far, the best education in the state. We're usually a top 10 school, top 100 at the least.

I am sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes.  I don't have time to give you specific statistics right at the moment, but check out NC's educational ranking compared to Alabama.  Chapel Hill has the highest rating for public schools in NC and the University of North Carolina is located there.  I am positive the ranking for UNC is much higher than any university in Alabama.  If I am wrong, then I apologize but I am 99% certain, I'm right!

You probably are, but I just have a lot of school pride still...not trying to be obnoxious...I'm just a loudmouth sometimes!

[Atlmetroguy]

I don't see a lot of difference in Aruba's handling of this case and the way Chandra Levy's disappearance was treated in Washington D.C.  I think I remember Gary Condit being given special treatment because he was a US Congressman.   IMO, we (US citizens) look rather ridiculous throwing so much blame and shame on Aruba when we have so many skeletons in our own closet.  

Wizard, you just keep my heading shaking from side to side with your sex slave theory!  Where are all of these slaves?

For the comments earlier about a 17 year old being capable of killing someone and then going to school.  We have a case in Chapel Hill, NC - much more affluent and better educated than the area in AL, where a teenager killed both his mother and father in their $700,000 home, shut their bodies  up in their bedroom, went to the prom, brought a small group back and had an after prom party, started staying in a hotel in Durham, went to school and may have continued with his life but an out of state relative called the police because they hadn't heard from the parents in a couple of weeks.   The age of a true sociopath is not really that important.    You can read about this case at the heraldsun.com - Adam Sapokowski - that spelling is more than likely wrong.

Ok sorry, I just have to say it.
They aren't better educated than us, I can tell you that!
Possibly more affluent though...but just possibly.
I just have to stick up for my town...and my school. They work us HARD and we get, by far, the best education in the state. We're usually a top 10 school, top 100 at the least.

I have to echo the quote from MBHS05 - I grew up in Birmingham and lived  in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area for a number of years and let me tell you from a $$ aspect, the 2 communities are equal. The only difference being is that Chapel Hill is a college town and Mountain Brook is not.

[joebob]

Which news organization/source is reporting that Joran has once again changed his story to those of the other teens?

The top95 radio station

[MELJA56]

This is an aflluent subdivision of Birmingham, but not all the people there are filthy reach.  There are just nice houses and then there are mansions, Natalee's house is just a nice house.    The reason Mt Brook is considered affluent is because the property taxes are extreme, for example on Natalee's house which is probably valued at $250,000, they probably pay $5,000 a year in property taxes which the city puts back in their school system.  It's the best school system in the State of Alabama and people will sacrifice to live there just for that.  The city will not annex new property because they want to protect their school system. That's not saying that there are not a lot of rich people who live in Mtn. Brook, there are.   It's 5 minutes from downtown Birmingham, very convenient for executives, but not everybody who lives there is influential or filthy rich.

Bottom line is Birmingham is a very close knit city.  If one of ours is in need, somebody will try to help.  We care about each other.  I live in Vestavia Hills, Al, which joins Mtn Brook city limits, I have a big yellow bow on my mailbox.  I don't know this family, but I would do anything I could to help them.   This city is a family and we act accordingly.   Thank goodness our business community is willing to share their resources with anybody in need, like the Twitty family.

I've very proud of my Birmingham, in the way we've come together on this.   Make fun of us as you will, but we're proud to be here and we continue to pray, support and cry with Natalee's family. :)

[chloe2]

I know the issue is not made up but the likelihood is much greater that she was raped and murdered.  If Aruba is such a center of sex slave trade, why in the world hasn't this been made more public considering parents are sending their children there to party?

Did you look at the list of countries on that site?  Sex slavery isn't the first thing that comes to mind for most of them.  I'm not saying Aruba is some huge sex trafficking area, but it's only 20 miles from Venezuela, which IS. Also, it's the Caribbean it's pretty easy to come and go undetected or unsuspected there. It's a more laid back lifestyle. I just don't think you can summarily dismiss the possibility because it's not 'advertised' as a sex trade area and because you haven't heard about it.

[DT]

Which news organization/source is reporting that Joran has once again changed his story to those of the other teens?

MSNBC reporter said it not too long ago.

[lainey]

For the comments earlier about a 17 year old being capable of killing someone and then going to school.  We have a case in Chapel Hill, NC - much more affluent and better educated than the area in AL, .

Am I the only one that this comment rubs the wrong way?  Just because you are from the middle of nowhere in the South does not mean you are less educated and does not neccassarily mean you are less affluent.  I grew up in MS near Meridian, not even in a town and believe it or not we had a school and I went there and learned something. Now I live in the RTP area so I am very familiar with this specific case.    I'm sick of people thinking the South equates to uneducated.

In RN school I was treated like an idiot by some people because I was from MS.  They ate their words when I graduated with better grades, more clinical awards than any student in our class and at the top 5% of the class grade wise.   Wish I could have seen their faces when I passed boards and two of them didn't!

OK, over my tantrum....LOL