RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5

[AUburn_Tiger]

I've managed to spend almost three hours here today (and it's only 12:30) refreshing the page and reading everything ..

I MUST go back to work, but whoever had the idea about starting a new thread when something real happens is a fantastic idea.  Could somebody do that?

I don't know what I'm going to do with myself when I leave for Belgium on Sunday if all of this is going on!!!

Back to work .. before I lose my job!

[dragonfly]

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HARRY:
resumen of the last 24 hours:
yesterday we moved alot behind the lighthouse w. a group of people we serached without getting naything.....when we were their their was a weird helicopter flying low...then later at 5.00pm we were at noord at the police station were VD STRATEN awas comign out we asked him ....he said everythign is the same he cant say anytnhing whether shes dead or alive...and he said theirs a helicopter from the US checking to see where their can be holes that could have been dug recently and itwas a computerized computer, its only a few weeks more before he goes on vacation and retires...they cant have anythign yet...pother info......we have concetrated too much ont he locals, but that doesnt mean their can be poeple form the extretior on this, but VDSTRATEN says he cant say anything, yester day they thought should strat interogating the mother and other families on teh island .....but nothign nothing about NH neither info of her being dead or alive...any more info I can get ill let you know....
EDMOND:we are waiting for other collegues that might have more info, this news takes lots of time of journalists and is a long one already, long nights no sleep and days with no sleep...we want to give words of strentgh to local presss that are doing good job at this ....and tnx for cooperating with us
JUANCHO:we are very much into the local pressa nd also we have freidns of the US press, and we spoke of the bad part of the press is that WE have to go otu and get the news, we have to be everywhere and do everything wherever we see somethign "going on" and we need to processit......this makes it easier for speculations because nothign is given to us from the officials.things are bigger than they appear...
.EDMOND:they stopped the daily press conferences becuase they hurt more than they helped......the US press had a great "dinner" with those beucase till this day they are making fun of the information given......but we must say we are sure theyare doing a job, their are many local policve doing their job and they have lots of pressure....the last information we got is that thier is absolutely no idea or clue as to where NH is......the youngster say they did makeup a story but the story was to just as youngsters to make up to not have themselves involved in this......also they heard JvdS said that its true he stayed w/ NH at the fishermans huts to swim, and NH went to HI and he walked home after that...again this is form an undisclosed informant so its NOTHING CONFIMRED NOR SAID BY ANY OPFFICAIL....this is just a informative of mine that gave me that information........I have to say that this makes this at this moment that JvdS is one of the main suspects, thats why we went over to serach his house completely but this produced NOTHING....talking to a close ferwind of JvdS that she would put both her hands in fire for JvdS that he IS innocent, hes not a person to commit a crime, as to muyrder a person, hes not that kind of person, hes not a person to push any relationship, if you liek to be with him fine if no tthen fine too, he doesnt push you to do nythign....she knows him for 10 years, and says she will put her hands in fire for him knowing he is INNOCENT.....
The anger managment thing I have no info about that.......look everyione has a small anger problem you can ttell me that you dont get angry buecase i get far away from you when your mad!hahahhaa, but that doesnt mean your capable of commiting a crime

Here it is.  As I said, it is not confirmed and came from an informant not an official.

[wwizard]

Perhaps Joran did give Natalee GHB, took her to the beach and then left her there.  One of the brothers said that they thought she would turn up later...  is it possible that some nutty person found her on the beach and took her home to "nurse" her back to health... caring for her thinking that they are helping her?  Who knows what effect the GHB could have had on her?  Surely the locals would know about any nutty folks who like to hang out at the beach at night???  Gosh!  I just really wish they could find SOMETHING!

probably used GHB to git her on the boat to the mainland. as Ive maintained, she was on a boat less than an hour after leaving the bar.
She aint n e where near aruba.

[mustiquemama]

mbhs05, I read in a Miss. paper that Natalee went to Junior High in that state.  That would be 4 years ago.  When did she move to MB and start going to school with you?

[pitinkie]

I agree with you ABC!!!

[mbhs05]

mbhs05, I read in a Miss. paper that Natalee went to Junior High in that state.  That would be 4 years ago.  When did she move to MB and start going to school with you?

Yeah she's from Meridian I believe. She moved here in 8th grade.

[Keeper]

they are PROS and no exactly watt theyre doin. they will walk cause we aint got no body. lying, while immoral, may not b illegal.

I think there's merritt in your theory. However I would hardly give the scum credit for being pros. At 17 how much experience could one have and a pro would have had his story ready to go and be sticking to it. Not changing it as these fellas have. I also don't feel a pro would have chosen an individual that was part of large group.

[DT]

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HARRY:
resumen of the last 24 hours:
yesterday we moved alot behind the lighthouse w. a group of people we serached without getting naything.....when we were their their was a weird helicopter flying low...then later at 5.00pm we were at noord at the police station were VD STRATEN awas comign out we asked him ....he said everythign is the same he cant say anytnhing whether shes dead or alive...and he said theirs a helicopter from the US checking to see where their can be holes that could have been dug recently and itwas a computerized computer, its only a few weeks more before he goes on vacation and retires...they cant have anythign yet...pother info......we have concetrated too much ont he locals, but that doesnt mean their can be poeple form the extretior on this, but VDSTRATEN says he cant say anything, yester day they thought should strat interogating the mother and other families on teh island .....but nothign nothing about NH neither info of her being dead or alive...any more info I can get ill let you know....
EDMOND:we are waiting for other collegues that might have more info, this news takes lots of time of journalists and is a long one already, long nights no sleep and days with no sleep...we want to give words of strentgh to local presss that are doing good job at this ....and tnx for cooperating with us
JUANCHO:we are very much into the local pressa nd also we have freidns of the US press, and we spoke of the bad part of the press is that WE have to go otu and get the news, we have to be everywhere and do everything wherever we see somethign "going on" and we need to processit......this makes it easier for speculations because nothign is given to us from the officials.things are bigger than they appear...
.EDMOND:they stopped the daily press conferences becuase they hurt more than they helped......the US press had a great "dinner" with those beucase till this day they are making fun of the information given......but we must say we are sure theyare doing a job, their are many local policve doing their job and they have lots of pressure....the last information we got is that thier is absolutely no idea or clue as to where NH is......the youngster say they did makeup a story but the story was to just as youngsters to make up to not have themselves involved in this......also they heard JvdS said that its true he stayed w/ NH at the fishermans huts to swim, and NH went to HI and he walked home after that...again this is form an undisclosed informant so its NOTHING CONFIMRED NOR SAID BY ANY OPFFICAIL....this is just a informative of mine that gave me that information........I have to say that this makes this at this moment that JvdS is one of the main suspects, thats why we went over to serach his house completely but this produced NOTHING....talking to a close ferwind of JvdS that she would put both her hands in fire for JvdS that he IS innocent, hes not a person to commit a crime, as to muyrder a person, hes not that kind of person, hes not a person to push any relationship, if you liek to be with him fine if no tthen fine too, he doesnt push you to do nythign....she knows him for 10 years, and says she will put her hands in fire for him knowing he is INNOCENT.....
The anger managment thing I have no info about that.......look everyione has a small anger problem you can ttell me that you dont get angry buecase i get far away from you when your mad!hahahhaa, but that doesnt mean your capable of commiting a crime

Here it is.  As I said, it is not confirmed and came from an informant not an official.

MSNBC made the claim as well, so maybe there is a little more credibility to it.  OF course, I wouldn;t doubt that they got it from the radio.

[DT]

mbhs05, I read in a Miss. paper that Natalee went to Junior High in that state.  That would be 4 years ago.  When did she move to MB and start going to school with you?

Yeah she's from Meridian I believe. She moved here in 8th grade.

I don't know if she's from Meridian, but she did go to Jr High in Clinton.

[Debatl]

mbhs05, I read in a Miss. paper that Natalee went to Junior High in that state.  That would be 4 years ago.  When did she move to MB and start going to school with you?

Yeah she's from Meridian I believe. She moved here in 8th grade.

....coming out of lurkdom....... I think she actually lived in Clinton, MS (which is where I grew up).  ..........back into lurkdom........

[Candide]

I was reading a post in Riehl World by Susan that makes some sense to me.  She was saying if it's true about Joran "acting" in a porno movie, maybe that was the reason for taking Natalee.  Drug her and then take her to a "location" with lighting etc. like his "apartment."  If they found a porno video of him, they could possibly tell the location of the filming.  There is something about the pictures of him and his friends and ESPECIALLY the one named Jaime from Columbia, that really makes my intuitive hairs on my head stand up.  The girls they have with them in several of the pictures look like they could be pornographic film actresses also.  If they are indeed interviewing three more today I know that two of them will be Freddie and Jaime.

[Professor]

Here is a recap of the Most Believable Scenario (MBS). Joran van der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalmoe fed Natalie Holloway a date rape drug just before she left Carlos and Charlie's. To her friends, she appeared sober, but within minutes she was incapacitated and was shoved into a car and told that she was being driven back to her hotel. She was driven to a remote location, far from the Marriott and far from the Holiday Inn, and raped by all 3. Under the MBS, the Kalmoe brothers were in on the crime, since there would be no other way for Joran to get a ride home and it was over 2 miles to his house. This also explains why all 3 lied about the two security guards. Sometime during the rape, something bad happened, and Natalie was killed. Her body was disposed of, perhaps with the help of others. Perhaps Joran's family. But she was not disposed of at the site where Deepak claimed he dropped off Joran. That was just a smoke screen. Now, 17 days have passed. Valuable forensic evidence has either been disposed of or degraded, and all 3 suspects are beginning to feel that they can "beat the rap," if they can just maintain a consistent story. It may be full of inconsistencies, but, at this point, the prosecution will have a hard time proving that a crime has been committed.

[friend of monkeys]

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HARRY:
resumen of the last 24 hours:
yesterday we moved alot behind the lighthouse w. a group of people we serached without getting naything.....when we were their their was a weird helicopter flying low...then later at 5.00pm we were at noord at the police station were VD STRATEN awas comign out we asked him ....he said everythign is the same he cant say anytnhing whether shes dead or alive...and he said theirs a helicopter from the US checking to see where their can be holes that could have been dug recently and itwas a computerized computer, its only a few weeks more before he goes on vacation and retires...they cant have anythign yet...pother info......we have concetrated too much ont he locals, but that doesnt mean their can be poeple form the extretior on this, but VDSTRATEN says he cant say anything, yester day they thought should strat interogating the mother and other families on teh island .....but nothign nothing about NH neither info of her being dead or alive...any more info I can get ill let you know....
EDMOND:we are waiting for other collegues that might have more info, this news takes lots of time of journalists and is a long one already, long nights no sleep and days with no sleep...we want to give words of strentgh to local presss that are doing good job at this ....and tnx for cooperating with us
JUANCHO:we are very much into the local pressa nd also we have freidns of the US press, and we spoke of the bad part of the press is that WE have to go otu and get the news, we have to be everywhere and do everything wherever we see somethign "going on" and we need to processit......this makes it easier for speculations because nothign is given to us from the officials.things are bigger than they appear...
.EDMOND:they stopped the daily press conferences becuase they hurt more than they helped......the US press had a great "dinner" with those beucase till this day they are making fun of the information given......but we must say we are sure theyare doing a job, their are many local policve doing their job and they have lots of pressure....the last information we got is that thier is absolutely no idea or clue as to where NH is......the youngster say they did makeup a story but the story was to just as youngsters to make up to not have themselves involved in this......also they heard JvdS said that its true he stayed w/ NH at the fishermans huts to swim, and NH went to HI and he walked home after that...again this is form an undisclosed informant so its NOTHING CONFIMRED NOR SAID BY ANY OPFFICAIL....this is just a informative of mine that gave me that information........I have to say that this makes this at this moment that JvdS is one of the main suspects, thats why we went over to serach his house completely but this produced NOTHING....talking to a close ferwind of JvdS that she would put both her hands in fire for JvdS that he IS innocent, hes not a person to commit a crime, as to muyrder a person, hes not that kind of person, hes not a person to push any relationship, if you liek to be with him fine if no tthen fine too, he doesnt push you to do nythign....she knows him for 10 years, and says she will put her hands in fire for him knowing he is INNOCENT.....
The anger managment thing I have no info about that.......look everyione has a small anger problem you can ttell me that you dont get angry buecase i get far away from you when your mad!hahahhaa, but that doesnt mean your capable of commiting a crime

       so maybe wiz IS RIGHT....    
        look to the brothers>>>maybe they set joran up

                       FOR     THE         $$$$$$

[dragonfly]

they are PROS and no exactly watt theyre doin. they will walk cause we aint got no body. lying, while immoral, may not b illegal.

I think there's merritt in your theory. However I would hardly give the scum credit for being pros. At 17 how much experience could one have and a pro would have had his story ready to go and be sticking to it. Not changing it as these fellas have. I also don't feel a pro would have chosen an individual that was part of large group.

Good point.  She was a part of a very large group and I don't think they PLANNED to do anything to her except maybe GHB and sex, but planning to kidnap or murder someone who they knew would be missed fairly quickly would not be something a "pro" would do.  And people can fault Natalee's friends all they want for not noticing that she was gone sooner, but there were over 100 of them, some hanging out by the pool and some probably passed out.  They last saw her between 1am and 2am and she was noticed gone (from what her mother and Dash said) around 8:30am.  That is only about 7 hours and they are hours when many were sleeping.  The problem lies in that it was double that time that Joran and brothers had to cover tracks before anyone even questioned them.  Let alone the days they had after they were question and pointed the finger at the two security guards.

[mustiquemama]

Debatl, now that you say that I do remember Clinton.  So, do you know her?  When she moved to MB?  Or anything about the Costa Rico disappearance rumor?

Edited to add -- I'm not bashing Natalee.  The Costa Rico rumor keeps coming up and it would be nice to put it to rest.

[mbhs05]

mbhs05, I read in a Miss. paper that Natalee went to Junior High in that state.  That would be 4 years ago.  When did she move to MB and start going to school with you?

Yeah she's from Meridian I believe. She moved here in 8th grade.

....coming out of lurkdom....... I think she actually lived in Clinton, MS (which is where I grew up).  ..........back into lurkdom........

Yeah I didn't know I just knew she moved here from Mississippi. No one pays attention when a new student comes here, not even in the J-High (it's 7-9, by the way). She was just another one of us really quickly.

[bkhypnotic]

I am sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes.  I don't have time to give you specific statistics right at the moment, but check out NC's educational ranking compared to Alabama.  Chapel Hill has the highest rating for public schools in NC and the University of North Carolina is located there.  I am positive the ranking for UNC is much higher than any university in Alabama.  If I am wrong, then I apologize but I am 99% certain, I'm right![/quote]


According to Newsweek, the best high school in the entire country is in Alabama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7723397/site/newsweek/?g=1

[bamabelle11]

How are school ranking relevant here? I'm confused

[iquitos]

Mrs. Twitty has it right.  The three know what happened to Natalee if anybody does.  I think it is stretching it to involve Joran's father who is an officer of Justice and a respcted person on the island.  Why attribute base motives to everybody around Joran?   Any parent would draw the line at disposing of bodies.  It might be as simpe as an overdose.  But where is the body?

[Candide]

The porn movie makes more sense to me than sex slave trade because Natalie's virginal, pristine look would have been perfect for a film but for a sex slave, I would think the "master" would need a stronger more sensual type of female.    From the looks of Joran's websites, I don't think he had a problem getting laid, so I think he would either want Natalee for a money making business (porn) or he and the friends are perverted enough to just want to "waste" a little white girl from the United States.