RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5

[Sleeks]

Here is a recap of the Most Believable Scenario (MBS). Joran van der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalmoe fed Natalie Holloway a date rape drug just before she left Carlos and Charlie's. To her friends, she appeared sober, but within minutes she was incapacitated and was shoved into a car and told that she was being driven back to her hotel. She was driven to a remote location, far from the Marriott and far from the Holiday Inn, and raped by all 3. Under the MBS, the Kalmoe brothers were in on the crime, since there would be no other way for Joran to get a ride home and it was over 2 miles to his house. This also explains why all 3 lied about the two security guards. Sometime during the rape, something bad happened, and Natalie was killed. Her body was disposed of, perhaps with the help of others. Perhaps Joran's family. But she was not disposed of at the site where Deepak claimed he dropped off Joran. That was just a smoke screen. Now, 17 days have passed. Valuable forensic evidence has either been disposed of or degraded, and all 3 suspects are beginning to feel that they can "beat the rap," if they can just maintain a consistent story. It may be full of inconsistencies, but, at this point, the prosecution will have a hard time proving that a crime has been committed.

OK I heard earlier on that the car they all were in had more miles than just from point A (c&c) to Pt. B Lighthouse to Pt. C HI???????  What if they did take her to the caves or someother spot.  Secluded of course.

[klaasend]

I am sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes.  I don't have time to give you specific statistics right at the moment, but check out NC's educational ranking compared to Alabama.  Chapel Hill has the highest rating for public schools in NC and the University of North Carolina is located there.  I am positive the ranking for UNC is much higher than any university in Alabama.  If I am wrong, then I apologize but I am 99% certain, I'm right!

According to Newsweek, the best high school in the entire country is in Alabama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7723397/site/newsweek/?g=1[/quote]

My question is...how is this relavent to finding Natalee??

[Candide]

How are school ranking relevant here? I'm confused

Please don't be confused.  I will help you.  They are not and that's why the subject was changed a long time ago!  

[Kat]

What was the link to Joran's brother's website?  I remember clicking on the link to his girlfriend's site and the girls in some of those photos were dressed very...interestingly.

[dragonfly]

Okay, FOM, if the brothers did in fact set Joran up, how did they do that?  If they dropped he and Nat at fisherman huts and Joran is now admitting to that?  I believe they must have some evidence pointing in that direction or Joran would not have changed his story.  Maybe it is proof that the brothers were at home on the internet and phone records indicating Joran was not at home as he said.  But I don't know how Joran changing his story again points to being set up by the brothers.

[mustiquemama]

The porn movie connection has been disproved.  By the Aruba Today editor, someone whose friend had the video and even Fox backed down on that story the same night. And Geraldo the ass didn't mention it on The View the next day.

[friend of monkeys]

According to Newsweek, the best high school in the entire country is in Alabama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7723397/site/newsweek/?g=1[/quote]

My question is...how is this relavent to finding Natalee??[/quote]

           ACCORDING TO SCARED MONKEYS
             THIS SITE IS ABOUT THE DISAPPEARANCE
                   OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY

[Compananzi]

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OK I heard earlier on that the car they all were in had more miles than just from point A (c&c) to Pt. B Lighthouse to Pt. C HI???????  What if they did take her to the caves or someother spot.  Secluded of course.[/quote]

Hmm that would be assuming that each time you would reset the trip odometer no?

[Debatl]

Debatl, now that you say that I do remember Clinton.  So, do you know her?  When she moved to MB?  Or anything about the Costa Rico disappearance rumor?

Edited to add -- I'm not bashing Natalee.  The Costa Rico rumor keeps coming up and it would be nice to put it to rest.

No, I've been gone from there for many years--Clinton is just a pretty small town so it surprised me to learn that she had lived there before moving to B'ham.  

BTW, where did the Costa Rica rumor come from?  I haven't seen ANYTHING confirming it--so just wondering how and when the rumor got started

[iquitos]

So, did Natalee move to her mother's for high school.  Did she chose to or was she forced to.  Maybe that explains any attempt to run away 4 years ago.  She is from a broken home and the divorce rate in MB is very low, almost as low as the nonwhite population.

[Professor]

To Sleek: My guess would be that they took Natalee to the southern end of the island, far away from where the previous searches were held. There was a report earlier this AM that Joran made a call from his cell phone from the southern end of the island around 6:30 am* on the morning Natalee disappeared. So, the 3 might have worked all night to dispose of the body.

* Yahoo Natalee Holloway group site.

[wwizard]

they are PROS and no exactly watt theyre doin. they will walk cause we aint got no body. lying, while immoral, may not b illegal.

I think there's merritt in your theory. However I would hardly give the scum credit for being pros. At 17 how much experience could one have and a pro would have had his story ready to go and be sticking to it. Not changing it as these fellas have. I also don't feel a pro would have chosen an individual that was part of large group.

The voice of one crying out in the wilderness

I keep reposting this so everyone sees it. it is completely plausible and in my mind very, very likely. it fits all the "evidence" better than n e thing else Ive herd. it fits watt we no bout the area. it fits watts likely to happen next. BTW, these forums and blogs is where u learn, not by watching CNNABCBSFOX. it just fits.


aruba has jerked my chain 4 the last time.......NH is probably alive (if
she's minding).....but she ain't n or around aruba....what seems like random events is really a well oiled machine and it is ABOVE THE LAW...this is white slavery territory we're n....no "rules".....I no the game now....and we ALL need to deal w/ it.......if there was no internet I wood no only watt the mainstream media tells me (laughable) and b OK......but I no more now....

the scam is this....the dutchguy is the setup man. he takes the "mark" and
plays kissy kissy wink wink all week and plants the "trust me" hook.....he
sets em up and the brothers carry em 2 the boat......after they seperate the "mark" from "the herd" and away we go......no body ever found means no murder conviction.....they do their "time" and are released........what a gig......foolproof......I feel for the people caught up in this twisted vortex....the ONLY way her parents will ever see her is 2 pay 2 have her back and it's very slim odds because that wood b an admission of guilt by the pirates of the caribbean.....u just don't kill women like NH....unless u can throw away $20,000, $50,000, $100,000.........way 2 valuable......the abducted women cooperate or die....real simple....what wood u do in their place? b honest
w/ yourself......I'm through checking EVERY headline cause it don't
matter.....I now no how it's gonna play now.....the "student"
brothers......."students" of watt and tell me about their mainland
connections.....the 3 will b released.....b honest agin.......no
evidence.....if this disturbs u, I apologize, it's just the reality of the
situation......hug ur fam, kids, friends 2 day because ur free and not in a nightmare like this......watt did NH ever do to warrant her punishment....the trio is a lot more scared of their BOSS than the law......all the king horses and all the kings men......be well

NH has been SOLD. Don't shoot the messenger. The truth is ugly and it hurts. We must deal with it though as adults and stop pretending it doesn't happen. There's BIG money playing the game. Here's an example:
You buy a blonde women (popular where everyone is dark headed) for $100,000. She could easily make you $50,000 a year for say 20 years. After 2 years she's paid for and pure profit. $50,000 x 20 years = $1,000,000.
We lead sheltered lives in the US. Painfull to think about but it happens
ALL the time. She's NOT on Aruba, look all you want. She left Aruba on a boat within an hour of leaving the bar. This is the ONLY scenario that fits all the "evidence". She was stalked from day 1, nothing accidental about it. Time will bear this out.

[friend of monkeys]

So, did Natalee move to her mother's for high school.  Did she chose to or was she forced to.  Maybe that explains any attempt to run away 4 years ago.  She is from a broken home and the divorce rate in MB is very low, almost as low as the nonwhite population.

DOES THIS MAKE ALABAMA GIRLS MORE OR LESS LIKELY TO BE VICTIMS OF SEX TRADE TO VENEZUELA???

[klaasend]

What was the link to Joran's brother's website?  I remember clicking on the link to his girlfriend's site and the girls in some of those photos were dressed very...interestingly.

The girls I saw at his website looked like they dressed just like most of the teens I see these days.  I'm not saying I think it's appropriate attire, just how they all seem to be dressing.

[RubaRiba]

I've been trying to keep up and read all the posts from last night, whew that is very hard! Just saw a couple of posts regarding Costa Rica....

Reason for my post is that towards the beginning of all this, on another BB, someone had asked if NH was ever in Costa Rica, then the post was deleted and I haven't seen that mentioned again until now.......my question is, is there any connection? or just another rumor type things going around?

[cjm]

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americaninaruba is in the car right now and checking the area 3 blocks away from JORANS HOME and shes going to HI and the distance is aproximatly 6.5 kilometers...

Thanks Americaninaruba for making the drive!

So, from the area of Juron's house (Montana/Noord) to the Holiday Inn (Palm Beach) is 6.5 Kilometers, which is about 4 miles.  That's driving, so by foot it might be even a more direct route (i.e., 2 miles).  

I would think that an athletic, strapping 17 year old young man could make that walk in under 1 hour (2-4 miles).  Just a thought, perhaps he sent Deepak a text message that he would be online in about an hour to establish an alibi, knowing he could make it home in under 1 hour (he's probably made that walk before).  Maybe he got the brothers involved after that...

I agree!!!  Joran could easily have walked home, or he could have ran.  

I am 5'4 and I walk a mile in about 10 minutes.

[nancy_drew]

For those of us at work and scanning the threads for news, is it possible for the new, news reports to be marked, maybe

BREAKING NEWS
OR
NEWS UPDATE

Since moving through the threads and reading older pages is difficult and hard especially when at work, it would really help!

ALSO, I don't put any stock into the porn movie report.  It could be true, but that was part of a report from Geraldo the other night.  Notice he's no longer reporting from or on Aruba!!!

AND, I sure hope we can do anything and everything to denounce that dreadful radio woman...can't remember her name!!!  It was/is embarrassing to think she is thought to be representative of how people in this country feel or think!

[mbhs05]

So, did Natalee move to her mother's for high school.  Did she chose to or was she forced to.  Maybe that explains any attempt to run away 4 years ago.  She is from a broken home and the divorce rate in MB is very low, almost as low as the nonwhite population.

I don't think she was forced, but I didn't know her in J-High. She didn't run away four years ago. That rumor is FALSE. And she loves her whole family very much-no problems with it. There are plenty of other kids in my grade with divorced parents, and I only know one who resents the situation. (Just because her dad has been rather...just not cool about it. And it was very recent.)

[klaasend]

I've been trying to keep up and read all the posts from last night, whew that is very hard! Just saw a couple of posts regarding Costa Rica....

Reason for my post is that towards the beginning of all this, on another BB, someone had asked if NH was ever in Costa Rica, then the post was deleted and I haven't seen that mentioned again until now.......my question is, is there any connection? or just another rumor type things going around?

Rumor.  As far as we know it never happened.

[Compananzi]

So, did Natalee move to her mother's for high school.  Did she chose to or was she forced to.  Maybe that explains any attempt to run away 4 years ago.  She is from a broken home and the divorce rate in MB is very low, almost as low as the nonwhite population.

What is the story I hear she ran away?