RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 7

[Ben]

Again, can someone tell me where the name "Roel" Comes into this?

[DJTAYLOR]

Another Steve Croes in Aruba:

http://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~ensermo/mike/pages/alltogether.htm

Third Picture from the bottom on the right.

Also, I'm not saying that the websites I'm posting are for the right guy.  I'm just looking for websites so that we can see them before they are removed - IF they belong the the arrested individual.

I think I saw a picture of that guy on Jorans site.

that steve you send on the website is the one i know, he was the best friend of my ex boyfriend of 6 years.............this is very chilling

[Flmom47]

Another Steve Croes in Aruba:

http://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~ensermo/mike/pages/alltogether.htm

Third Picture from the bottom on the right.

Also, I'm not saying that the websites I'm posting are for the right guy.  I'm just looking for websites so that we can see them before they are removed - IF they belong the the arrested individual.

Hi everyone, I've been lurking all week at this site. Like all of you, praying very hard that Natalee will be found alive and safe.

Quick question, who was the guy interviewed last night on FOX by Greta who stated he's a friend of the two brothers? I ask, because one photo in that link above looks very familiar. Not sure it's the same guy, 2nd on right from the bottom.

Correction: It may not have been stated if he was friends with the two brothers, I can't remember.?? He could have been just a guy that Greta stopped on the street to interview.

[Brenda]

Anyone remember the Patty Hearst case that made the "Stockholm Syndrome" known world wide?

It was a case of a young girl getting kidnapped, drugged....girl starts identifying with the kidnappers, and joins their cause.....case involved one of the richest and most famous American families of the 19th century...

Now....say Natalee did go out and partying....did overdose (even if by being slipped a "mickey")....these people call EMT friend....EMT friend saves her....

Now say that while recovering - she exhibits symptoms of the "Stockholm Syndrome" and identifies with those she has been with - thus didn't call her family....

I am not suggesting that this is what has happened, but am suggesting this is one of many possible scenarios....one that could be unraveling and be a case of a live and well Natalee vs. a dead, shark fed, or sold off Natalie....

[waitingtoknow]

I am closing the MSN chat...seems like 99% of the info they are gettng is from SM....and...soon they will be moving to aol chat....

[TTownMike]

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Found this on Amazon books reviews.  I think this guy is an EMT.  Maybe Joren called him to help or something.

I too just found this and was wondering the exact same thing.  It seems logical that if Natalee was drugged and had a bad reaction that the teens would search out a friend that had some medical background.

Good theory but, if he was there he'd wouldn't fail to call ambulance.  Wouldn't let her die like that.  Also not likely to coverup!

[writenow]

Good afternoon all! I've been on for two hours reading and trying to catch up! You guys have been busy!

I'm only on page 4 (I'm reading as fast as I can!), but I wanted to post this again (for like the 5th time) because this question keeps coming up about the FBIs involvement. (And maybe Tom & Red & Cat will post this on the front). It's an article from the Miami Herald (most of the FBI agents and the 2 search and rescue people with dogs are out of the Miami office.) There are also DEA on the island I'm sure (read that early on).

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11887882.htm
Posted on Tue, Jun. 14, 2005

ARUBA
Miami FBI assists in missing-woman case

FBI agents from the Miami office have been in Aruba during the probe into the fate of an Alabama high school graduate, but their role has been limited.

BY LUISA YANEZ
lyanez@herald.com

Highly-trained agents from Miami's FBI office have been in Aruba for two weeks, but are playing a limited role in the search for Natalee Holloway, the missing Alabama woman whose case has drawn international media attention.

That's because the agents from the top federal investigative agency have been invited on the Dutch Caribbean island only as observers. Local authorities are leading the investigation.

Up to now, the Aruba government has requested minimal FBI assistance, said Judy Orihuela, the FBI spokeswoman in Miami.

''We are there at the request of the Aruban government and we'll help in anyway they ask us,'' she said.

Six Miami-based agents are on the island along with a seventh agent based in Barbados. The team of agents, along with a supervisor, watched from behind a glass the questioning of the five men implicated in the 18-year-old's disappearence.

Aruba officials also asked the FBI to analyze a DNA sample taken from the backseat of a suspect's vehicle. The sample was flown to the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Va., but came back negative for blood.

Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, has publicly criticized the pace of the investigation.

Even if Holloway Twitty wanted the FBI more involved in the case, the Dutch government would have to approve.

''Aruba is a sovereign nation,'' Orihuela said of the island, an autonomous member of the Kingdom of the Netherlands where Dutch is the official language, but English is widely spoken.

Investigators have said they continue to pursue all leads and emphasize that no one is above the law in Aruba.

But Holloway's mother told the Associated Press Sunday she believes island authorities might be protecting the three young men believed to be the last to see her daughter on May 30.

''All three of those boys know what happened to her,'' Holloway Twitty told AP. ``They all know what they did with her that night.''

One of them -- a 17-year-old Dutch boy -- is the privileged son of a Justice Ministry official.

The teen and the Surinamese brothers said they dropped Natalee off at her hotel after they drank and danced at a local night spot and a ride to the beach. It was Natalee's last night in Aruba.

The brothers, Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Deepak Kalpoe, 21, told police that the three took Holloway to a lighthouse near Arisha Beach. There, the Dutch teen kissed and fondled Natalee in the back of the car.

The brothers said they returned Holloway to her hotel about 2 a.m. But security video from the hotel does not show her walking back into the Holiday Inn on Palm Beach, where she stayed during the five-day high school graduation trip, her mother said.

The trio pointed the finger at two hotel guards, who were also taken into custody. Holloway Twitty told the news agency she believes the security guards had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance. Their attorneys have appealed for their release.

Attorneys for all five men maintain their clients' innocence.

For now, the agents -- members of the extra-territorial squad that deals with events in the Caribbean and South America -- will continue in their role as observers. Among them: an expert in evidence processing, a crimes against children specialist and a victim/witness coordinator. ''It's really up to the Aruban government what they want us to do,'' Orihuela said.

[joebob]

Again, can someone tell me where the name "Roel" Comes into this?

There was a Roel linked on the first croes website on zorpia. And there is a Roel that is a friend of Eldwean who as linked to Joren. Currently, I do not think the two Roel's are the same person.

[DT]

Another Steve Croes in Aruba:

http://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~ensermo/mike/pages/alltogether.htm

Third Picture from the bottom on the right.

Also, I'm not saying that the websites I'm posting are for the right guy.  I'm just looking for websites so that we can see them before they are removed - IF they belong the the arrested individual.

I think I saw a picture of that guy on Jorans site.

that steve you send on the website is the one i know, he was the best friend of my ex boyfriend of 6 years.............this is very chilling

What does he do for a living?

[nancy_drew]

Anyone remember the Patty Hearst case that made the "Stockholm Syndrome" known world wide?

It was a case of a young girl getting kidnapped, drugged....girl starts identifying with the kidnappers, and joins their cause.....case involved one of the richest and most famous American families of the 19th century...

Now....say Natalee did go out and partying....did overdose (even if by being slipped a "mickey")....these people call EMT friend....EMT friend saves her....

Now say that while recovering - she exhibits symptoms of the "Stockholm Syndrome" and identifies with those she has been with - thus didn't call her family....

I am not suggesting that this is what has happened, but am suggesting this is one of many possible scenarios....one that could be unraveling and be a case of a live and well Natalee vs. a dead, shark fed, or sold off Natalie....

Brenda, Stockholm Syndrome doesn't come on quickly...it takes time.  I think theories like this and panic attacks should be placed on the theories thread.

[iquitos]

Now, is Steve the Dutch guy who works at the Marriot Beach son of the deceased car dealer?   Or is that Lorenzo?  This Steve does not look Dutch to me.

[Dallas Also]

I am closing the MSN chat...seems like 99% of the info they are gettng is from SM....and...soon they will be moving to aol chat....

waitingtoknow, thanks for monitoring the MSN chat for us and posting just the pertinent information that came up.

That was how we got Steve Croews' name.  Our local posters AmericaninAruba and DJTAYLOR are now pursuing if this Steve Croews is the same as their friend Steve Croews.

[chloe2]

Anyone remember the Patty Hearst case that made the "Stockholm Syndrome" known world wide?

It was a case of a young girl getting kidnapped, drugged....girl starts identifying with the kidnappers, and joins their cause.....case involved one of the richest and most famous American families of the 19th century...

Now....say Natalee did go out and partying....did overdose (even if by being slipped a "mickey")....these people call EMT friend....EMT friend saves her....

Now say that while recovering - she exhibits symptoms of the "Stockholm Syndrome" and identifies with those she has been with - thus didn't call her family....

I am not suggesting that this is what has happened, but am suggesting this is one of many possible scenarios....one that could be unraveling and be a case of a live and well Natalee vs. a dead, shark fed, or sold off Natalie....

Patty Hearst wasn't drugged and she wasn't out partying.

[TTownMike]

After looking at it more closely, I'm not sure thats the same Roel.  The picture is real dark.

Doesn't look like the same guy on TV!  Body set looks heavier!

I agree, much bigger in the pic.

Yeah, the guy on tv was slim, this ones meaty, so to speak! LOL!

[DT]

After looking at it more closely, I'm not sure thats the same Roel.  The picture is real dark.

Doesn't look like the same guy on TV!  Body set looks heavier!

I agree, much bigger in the pic.

Yeah, the guy on tv was slim, this ones meaty, so to speak! LOL!

The guy on the tv was one of the brothres.

[CaliGirl]

Good morning or should I say afternoon! lol ((((Hugs everyone))))

Trying to catch up on everything. Seems like a lot, again, has happened over night.

[DJTAYLOR]

Another Steve Croes in Aruba:

http://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~ensermo/mike/pages/alltogether.htm

Third Picture from the bottom on the right.

Also, I'm not saying that the websites I'm posting are for the right guy.  I'm just looking for websites so that we can see them before they are removed - IF they belong the the arrested individual.

I think I saw a picture of that guy on Jorans site.

that steve you send on the website is the one i know, he was the best friend of my ex boyfriend of 6 years.............this is very chilling

What does he do for a living?

he used to have KAYAK rentals now he drives the boat known as TATTOO its a party boat that you can rent with your friends and have fun on. basically he is always on the beach

[Robert J]

VIDEO: MSNBC report on 4th arrest in Aruba
(Arrested a high-profile member of the community)

http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?t=1&p=News_NBC%20News&i=221999f2-7922-4211-92e2-855d30a73bdf&rf=

[americaninaruba]

Now, is Steve the Dutch guy who works at the Marriot Beach son of the deceased car dealer?   Or is that Lorenzo?  This Steve does not look Dutch to me.

Steve is the one whe THINK is the S.D.C.  taht was arrested this mornign at 6am.....me and DJTAYLOR suspect that its an old freind of ours......taht we knew from curacao.....when shelived tehir.......but we dont know if it s really him but al theclues match lets see well keeop you postde...he works ont he party boat Tattoo  you can google it Tattoo Party BOats

[da wench]

Good morning or should I say afternoon! lol ((((Hugs everyone))))

Trying to catch up on everything. Seems like a lot, again, has happened over night.

Where in Southern Cal are you, Caligirl?  I'm in Bakersfield.