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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5 6/19/13 - 7/2/13  (Read 341025 times)
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« Reply #1120 on: July 02, 2013, 09:01:16 AM »

I would go one further and ask all ... has the prosecution even laid down evidence of 2nd degree murder? Many of their witnesses have actually benefited GZ not hurt him.

Every defense atty asks for a motion to have the charges dismissed when the State is done presenting their case against the defendant. Usually it is procedural. I would not be surprised if the judge granted it in this case. The State has presented witnesses that have greatly benefitted Zimmerman and his story. Yesterday they actually allowed Zimmerman to testify on tape and not be forced to cross. Who does that?

Just strange.

It reminds me of the Brad Pitt movie 'Sleepers'. Not being conspiratorial but when is the prosecution going to actually present damning testimony or evidence against Zimmerman?

The case is one of the weakest I have ever seen.

Its shocking after having watched the Casey Anthony case and her being found "not guilty" as sin.
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« Reply #1121 on: July 02, 2013, 09:08:13 AM »

July 2, 2013 Tweets cont

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Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  3m 
Gallery, public and media, is pack today.
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
De la Rionda wants to strike Serino's opinion that #GeorgeZimerman was telling the truth and is a believable guy. #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #1122 on: July 02, 2013, 09:10:04 AM »

Came in late . Is state trying to get Serinos testimony thrown out?
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« Reply #1123 on: July 02, 2013, 09:16:37 AM »

July 2, 2013 Tweets cont

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara argues letting Serino say #GeorgeZimmerman is believable is part of his right to a fair trial

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Judge Nelson reads several cases that say it's harmful for a witness--especially an officer--to offer his or her opinion about truthfulness

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara says b/c Officer Serino did interviews to determine if Zimmerman was telling truth he should offer opinion

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  11m 
Gallery, public and media, is pack today.
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« Reply #1124 on: July 02, 2013, 09:21:46 AM »

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Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman  2m 
Prosecutor Richard Mantei is talking about Seminole State College of Florida professor Gordon Pleasants, who taught Zimmerman
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda wants judge to read Serino's testimony that #GeorgeZimmerman was telling the truth and ask the jury to disregard it.
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« Reply #1125 on: July 02, 2013, 09:25:44 AM »

Let the jury hear it twice and then tell them to forget about it.
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« Reply #1126 on: July 02, 2013, 09:28:00 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Officer Christopher Serino is back on the stand. Reminder: He was the lead investigator for the shooting for the Sanford Police.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Don West wants to question professor by Skype and admits he missed a scheduled deposition of the witness.

Local 10 Zimmerman Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman  6m 
Zimmerman's Criminal Justice teacher is a retired Casselberry Police Department Lieutenant
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« Reply #1127 on: July 02, 2013, 09:29:10 AM »

Let the jury hear it twice and then tell them to forget about it.

 
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« Reply #1128 on: July 02, 2013, 09:31:24 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Judge Nelson just asked the jury to disregard Serino's comment that he thought #GeorgeZimmerman was telling the truth.

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« Reply #1129 on: July 02, 2013, 09:39:06 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Zimmerman told Serino 911 screams didn't sound like him but Serino says that didn't change the direction of officer questions

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
O'Mara playing Serino's interview w/ Zimmerman where the officer asked Zimmerman if he was the voice screaming in the background of 911 call
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« Reply #1130 on: July 02, 2013, 09:47:57 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
De la Rionda plays #GeorgeZimmerman call to the police dispatch and let's jury hear him say "f--king punks" and "a-- holes" again

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda asking Serino about #GeorgeZimmerman saying "f--king punks" and "a-- holes." Is that ill will? Serino: Yes

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
O'Mara sits. De la Rionda now questioning Serino
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« Reply #1131 on: July 02, 2013, 09:47:59 AM »

July 2, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 42m
Bernie wants the detective's answer - I believe #Zimmerman was telling the truth - stricken and jurors to be instructed to set it aside.
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43m
@xfilestrustno1 Yes, if the state requests it, a manslaughter charge will be one of their options.
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43m
Prosecutor BDLR: Defense asked Serino to weigh in on "truth or veracity of" #GeorgeZimmerman's statements. State argues that's improper.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 46m
Court starts with a motion to exclude what the state says is improper opinion evidence by witneses.  #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 52m
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman returns to court today. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/uYue1qKZLK
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 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 53m
#Trayvon's mom & dad have taken their seats. #Zimmerman
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 53m
When #ZimmermanTrial resumes at 9, defense will continue cross examination of lead SPD Investigator Serino. Watch: http://bit.ly/11wpinH

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 55m
De la Rionda, JohnGuy, Rich Mantei in #GeorgeZimmerman c-room, ready for trial which starts at 9am. #Trayvon
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« Reply #1132 on: July 02, 2013, 09:50:21 AM »

July 2, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
Defense wants to cross examine the witness by Skype. Don West acknowledges there was a deposition defense missed on Tues. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 30m
Prosecutor Richard Mantei now discussing out-of-area witness, a professor at Seminole State College, #GeorgeZimmerman's former school.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31m
BDLR counters that state is entitled to a fair trial, too. Argues again to have the testimony struck. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33m
O'Mar: Caselaw is different from this case. In those cases, testimony in question harmed defendant; here, helped, he says. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 35m
O'Mara now reading caselaw on this issue. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36m
Nelson adopts state's "truth & veracity" language: "He's testifying as to the truth & veracity of your client's statement." #ZimmermanTrial.

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 38m
This is interesting because Bernie did not object yesterday when O'Mara asked the question. It was the last of the day, asked about 5:50p.
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39m
Judge Nelson reads caselaw that says having (esp police) witness testify about someone's credibility undercuts jury's role. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #1133 on: July 02, 2013, 09:51:24 AM »

Looks like state entire case relies on Z using the F word.
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« Reply #1134 on: July 02, 2013, 09:51:54 AM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
O'Mara asks Serino about #GeorgeZImmerman comment that screams don't "even sound like me." Serino: Didn't change direction of questioning.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Jurors are hearing portion of Serino's #GeorgeZimmerman interview where 911 screams play, Serino tells GZ, "That's you." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman remained consistent? Serino: "Yes he was," no significant inconsistencies. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

rJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
O'Mara continues questions on "challenge" interview. Undermine #GeorgeZImmerman's confidence? Serino: "More trying to extract truth."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 22m
Jury told to disregard Q & A: If "pathological liar" off the table, "you think he was telling the truth?" Serino: "Yes." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
Serino's testimony will resume now. Jury's being brought back in. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
Nelson asks state to find out when witness is available tomorrow. Argument tabled for now. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 52s
O'Mara objected repeatedly to versions of that question and answer, suggests it opens the door to other Serino opinions. #ZimmermanTrial

Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: If I assume someone is committing a crime, could I be profiling? Serino: "It could be construed as such yes?" #ZimmermanTrial


 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: #GeorgeZImmerman used "always get away" phrase repeatedly, including night of #TrayvonMartin shooting? Serino: "Correct."

Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@PamDetMI Good morning!
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman told by dispatch not to follow #TrayvonMartin? Serino: "In so many words, yes." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
BDLR: #GeorgeZImmerman comments show ill will, spite? Serino: "No it does not," then changes: "That is ill will and spite." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
BDLR plays #GeorgeZimmerman's "these a**holes" comment. Friendly? Serino: "No sir, it is not." #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda now doing redirect questioning of Serino. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman was cooperative? Serino: "Yes he was." Did whatever you asked? "Yes, he did." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #1136 on: July 02, 2013, 09:58:58 AM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24s
Serino says there's no evidence that #GeorgeZimmerman would've had reason to believe #TrayvonMartin was recording.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 58s
BDLR now questioning Serino on #GeorgeZImmerman's "thank God" comment in reply to Serino bluff that #TrayvonMartin could've recorded fight.

 Alisia AdamsonAlisia Adamson ‏@AlisiaEsq 2m
TM=Trayvon Martin | GZ=George Zimmerman | BDLR=Bernie de la Rionda (prosecutor) | MOM=Mark O'Mara (GZ's defense attorney)
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Serino on #GeorgeZimmerman following/not following: "An inconsistency as far as his acts and his words." #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #1137 on: July 02, 2013, 09:59:34 AM »

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Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  9m 
Jury taking lots of notes as DLR points out suspicious ppl #zimmerman described as always getting away. #trayvonmartin
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
It's pretty clear de la Rionda is trying to show jury that #GeorgeZimmerman was profiling #TrayvonMartin as a criminal

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Serino says a person assuming someone is a criminal can be construed as profiling.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
De la Rionda plays #GeorgeZimmerman telling officer after shooting that "these guys always get away" and burglaries as shooting explanation
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« Reply #1138 on: July 02, 2013, 10:03:18 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda is getting loud and animated. This seems to be a very important part of the state's case.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
De la Rionda: Was there any evidence that #TrayvonMartin was committing a crime or was armed? Serino: No. #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #1139 on: July 02, 2013, 10:04:38 AM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR points out that there's a numerical address on front of house #GeorgeZImmerman walked past. Serino agrees. #ZimmermanTrial

 Orlando SentinelOrlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 6m
Follow @renestutzman, @JeffWeinerOS and @OSTrayvonMartin for #GeorgeZimmerman and #TrayvonMartin coverage.
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