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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5 6/19/13 - 7/2/13  (Read 341052 times)
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« Reply #260 on: June 25, 2013, 08:18:13 PM »




Trayvon Martin's body.


Trayvon Martin gunshot wound[/b]

source: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-pictures-evidence-photos-released-in-the-shooting-death-of-trayvon-martin-20120517,0,6090406.photogallery
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/trayvon-martin-crime-scene-photos_n_3497991.html#photos



source: http://rollingout.com/criminal-behavior/trayvon-martin-graphic-crime-scene-photos-released/
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« Reply #261 on: June 25, 2013, 08:49:09 PM »

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/24/ijvm.01.html
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
George Zimmerman Trial
Aired June 24, 2013 - 19:00   ET


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/24/ng.01.html
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Bizarre Opening to Zimmerman Trial; Latest on Missing Child
Aired June 24, 2013 - 20:00:00   ET

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« Reply #262 on: June 25, 2013, 09:25:23 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-friend-trayvon-martins-father-cursed-courthouse/story?id=19475915



Tracy Martin, left, and Sybrina Fulton, parents of slain teen Trayvon Martin, speak in a news conference prior to opening arguments in the trial of George Zimmerman at the Seminole County Courthouse, June 24, 2013, in Sanford, Fla. (John Raoux/AP Photo)

The tree from which the apple fell?

  

Seriously shocked and saddened.  A young man trying to find his way and his parents who deeply loved and are mourning him.  You don't have to agree with them, you don't have to believe that Trayvon was afraid and defending himself, but this....

Then the comments about peaceful protesters and the hopes they get tear gassed.

I'm sickened.
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« Reply #263 on: June 25, 2013, 10:37:01 PM »

The peaceful protesters that said no one tells them what to do.
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« Reply #264 on: June 25, 2013, 11:54:04 PM »

6/25/13  Teenage Star Witness Against George Zimmerman Has Tweeted About Case, Getting High, And Her "Court Nails" 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/twitter/rachel-jeantel-758403
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« Reply #265 on: June 26, 2013, 12:10:22 AM »

Is Rachel the same Dee Dee who talked to crump and did not tell anyone for three weeks and refused to talk to LE?

And is this the same Dee Dee that you can hear her interiview with crump on Youtube?

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« Reply #266 on: June 26, 2013, 12:11:32 AM »

If we all thought alike, there'd be no need for elections, trials, choices of retail goods, different religions, etc. We just all have to learn to be more tolerant of each others POV, and agree to disagree.

Personally at this point, it's very sad how both TM and GZ have lost their lives to this unfortunate tragedy.  I'm open to learning the truth as best I can.  Right now though GZ is innocent until proven guilty and I have thought that and said that since the beginning.  The last thing need at that trial is thug mentality and that's what NAACP is putting forth claiming they don't have to follow no stinking rules.

I don't want to see anymore harm come to anyone over this case, so everyone needs to dial it back and obey the rules and that means the NAACP and anybody else who wants to dive into the fray and stir up trouble, racial or otherwise.   jmho
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« Reply #267 on: June 26, 2013, 12:21:20 AM »

I'm really shocked that no WS came out and protested.

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« Reply #268 on: June 26, 2013, 01:26:45 AM »

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/06/the-george-zimmerman-trial-so-far-a-fiasco-for-the-prosecution.php

Posted on June 25, 2013 by John Hinderaker in Crime
The George Zimmerman Trial So Far: A Fiasco For the Prosecution?

If you are interested in the George Zimmerman trial, in which testimony is now under way, the place to go is Legal Insurrection, where Andrew Branca, a Massachusetts lawyer who authored The Law of Self Defense, is posting a thorough, witness-by-witness commentary on the evidence, with videos of the actual courtroom scene.

Branca thinks today’s testimony was “an utter debacle for the prosecution.” In Branca’s view, the witnesses called by the state did far more to bolster Zimmerman’s defense than to advance the prosecution. The portrait they painted of Zimmerman was positive, and in a dramatic moment that Branca describes and which you can also see on video, the one witness who purported to have any information about the actual events surrounding the shooting of Trayvon Martin–an “ear witness,” as Branca calls her–was shown to have signed a petition calling for the prosecution of Zimmerman as “the killer of our son Trayvon Martin.” Ouch!
 
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Link to Legal Insurrection:  http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-trial-day-2-analysis-of-states-witnesses/

Zimmerman Trial Day 2 – Analysis of State’s Witnesses
Posted by Andrew Branca    Tuesday, June 25, 2013 at 9:04pm
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« Reply #269 on: June 26, 2013, 04:14:21 AM »

Is Rachel the same Dee Dee who talked to crump and did not tell anyone for three weeks and refused to talk to LE?

And is this the same Dee Dee that you can hear her interiview with crump on Youtube?


She was the one on the phone, I'm not sure of the reason for different names.
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« Reply #270 on: June 26, 2013, 07:34:03 AM »

I'm just having my first cup of coffee, so please bear with me...

If I remember correctly, there was some confusion about DeeDee, her identity, her age and etc.,  It was first reported she was Dee Dee, aged 16, and TM's gf and was on the phone with TM the night he was shot.  Afterward  I think she spoke with Crump, the Martin's attorney, who it was found later knew her name and her real age (not 16) and etc. and didn't divulge this etc., etc.  Anyone remember any of that  And I think this is part of the reason some wanted Crump deposed.  I'm looking around a bit for some info, but am supposed to be preparing for a trip this a.m., so forgive me if I don't get it all straight before then. 

I think it will be interesting to have Rachael (formerly known as Dee Dee) on the stand.  I hope there can be some clarification about what occurred that night.  JMHO
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« Reply #271 on: June 26, 2013, 07:39:53 AM »

I just googled "Dee Dee Trayvon Martin's Girlfriend" and the most recent article I could find is an opinion piece.  There are more references I found using the search feature at SM. 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/06/25/zimmerman-trayvon-martin-trial-jury-opinionline-column/2458011/
What people are saying about the start of the Trayvon Martin trial
June 25, 2013

 
Tom Maquire, Just One Minute: "The prosecution is putting 'Dee Dee' (Tryavon Martin's girlfriend) on the stand for the second day of the Zimmerman trial. The circumstances of her original deposition are, hmm, controversial, and her credibility may not be all the state might hope for in a star witness. And credibility aside, her basic story has Martin initiating the verbal confrontation."
 
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« Reply #272 on: June 26, 2013, 07:44:25 AM »

This gentleman says Dee Dee is a credible witness.  There were questions about Dee Dee saying she didn't go to Trayvon Martin's funeral because she was at the hospital.  Lots of comments. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AgIbyNObf0
Mark O'Mara And Team Depose Witness #8 Dee Dee (Trayvon Martins Girlfrie
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Zimmerman attorneys depose Trayvon Martin's girlfriend


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« Reply #273 on: June 26, 2013, 08:12:18 AM »

June 26, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#ZimmermanTrial resumes at 9 a.m. | Stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
#ZimmermanTrial: Testimony continues today on #TrayvonMartin shooting | Story we'll update: http://bit.ly/15F6Bja  #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #274 on: June 26, 2013, 08:14:30 AM »

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« Reply #275 on: June 26, 2013, 08:18:03 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-friend-trayvon-martins-father-cursed-courthouse/story?id=19475915



Tracy Martin, left, and Sybrina Fulton, parents of slain teen Trayvon Martin, speak in a news conference prior to opening arguments in the trial of George Zimmerman at the Seminole County Courthouse, June 24, 2013, in Sanford, Fla. (John Raoux/AP Photo)

The tree from which the apple fell?

  

Seriously shocked and saddened.  A young man trying to find his way and his parents who deeply loved and are mourning him.  You don't have to agree with them, you don't have to believe that Trayvon was afraid and defending himself, but this....

Then the comments about peaceful protesters and the hopes they get tear gassed.

I'm sickened.

I agree with your comments about a young man trying to  find his way, and two parents grieving the loss of their son- and that possibly Trayvon was in fact defending himself.

I was referring to the use of the MF word being used in the court of law. It has been reported that they wish justice to be served.  And so do I. But one needs to have respect for the court of law that is handling the process. 

Cursing, using the F word, in that court of law is disrespectful. 

I am sorry I offended you. This was my statement on the cursing episode.

Humbly submitted.
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« Reply #276 on: June 26, 2013, 08:24:17 AM »

4/5/13    Trayvon Martin's girlfriend's credibility is crumbling
 

"Attorneys for George Zimmerman were expected to ask his judge this morning to order the state's most important witness, the young Miami woman who was on the phone with Trayvon Martin just before he was shot, to produce medical records.

However, defense lawyer Don West made a startling claim shortly after the hearing began: The state had revealed, before the hearing, that there are no medical records.

The woman, the defense lawyer said, "misrepresented" in a sworn statement that she missed Trayvon's funeral because she had been hospitalized.

"In fact, she lied," West said.....

Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon's family, identified her as 16 years old when he played for reporters a recorded interview he conducted with her in March.

But she was 18 at the time and 19 now, O'Mara says.

During that interview by Crump, (she)  said she had been on the phone with Trayvon and he said he was scared because a strange man was following him. She said she heard Trayvon and the man come face to face and heard them exchange a few words then the phone went dead."
"This puts in a bind those who have vested their beliefs in this case on this young woman's account of the phone call and on discrepancies in accounts of the shooting given by defendant George Zimmerman. It's on her version of events that the "Zimmerman was stalking a frightened Martin" narrative rests, and the exposure of this very odd lie in a sworn statement suggests she won't do very well on the witness stand."

 http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2013/03/trayvon-martins-girlfriends-credibility-is-crumbling.html


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« Reply #277 on: June 26, 2013, 08:53:48 AM »

6/25/13  Teenage Star Witness Against George Zimmerman Has Tweeted About Case, Getting High, And Her "Court Nails" 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/twitter/rachel-jeantel-758403

oh good god.  i'm not trying to be the grammer police or anything but reading her twitter posts is just...ugh.  this should be an interesting cross examination.  as one commenter posted on the article "I feel bad for the court stenographer"  I will have to agree if this is how she speaks in the courtroom
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« Reply #278 on: June 26, 2013, 09:18:06 AM »

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m Surdyka says she heard "a very loud, dominant voice." Opened window to listen. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m Surdyka says it would have been dark at time of shooting. Heard voice outside her house. #GeorgeZimmerman #

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m 1st witness today: Jane Surdyka, who lived in #GeorgeZimmerman's neighborhood at the time of the #TrayvonMartin shooting.
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« Reply #279 on: June 26, 2013, 09:23:07 AM »

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m Surdyka says 2 people were "wrestling" and "you could hear scuffling," didn't see "arms swinging." #GeorgeZimmerman #

John Brown ‏@JohnBrownTV 3m Surdyka/Witness 18... "2 people on the ground, one on top of the other."  #fox35Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m Surdyka says she turned off light that was causing glare, then looked out window and saw 2 people on the ground. #GeorgeZimmerman #

Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 4m Neighbor says she heard a dominent voice and a softer voice.#fox35Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m Surdyka says she was 20-30 feet from source of voice. "Wasn't a normal conversation." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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