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Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5 6/19/13 - 7/2/13 (Read 342997 times)
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
West tried to ask whether there's any good reason for group questioning. State objects repeatedly. Judge sustains. #ZimmermanTrial
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
West trying to make point that officials shouldn't have played the 911 call for parents of #TrayvonMartin while they were in the same room
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 2m
West asks three times: Is there any good reason to play a voice sample for a room full of people? State objects each time and is sustained
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Nakasone says there's an increased chance of listener bias if you play the 911 call or other recordings for a room of people.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nakasone again says there was only 2.53 seconds of unobscured screams in call & need 30 secs of natural speech for tests. #ZimmermanTrial
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I would like to know Alicia Stanleys opinion of who it is on the call. Unbiased since she is not on the money trail.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nakasone reiterating and expanding on why audio in the case wasn't suitable for FBI analysis. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman @renestutzman 3m
Jurors seem to be zoning out as FBI guy drones on about minimal sample size. Alternate E13 is playing with her hand, scratching arm #Trayvon
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 37s
Nakasone says he told fellow FBI agents not to try a #GeorgeZimmerman reenactment for comparison. 911 tape not good enough. #TrayvonMartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nakasone on screams in 911 call: "uttered under extreme emotional state." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nakasone: Screams aren't just higher pitch than normal speaking. Also may be "physiological" differences, he says. #ZimmermanTrial
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Quote from: alagary on July 01, 2013, 10:28:48 AM
I would like to know Alicia Stanleys opinion of who it is on the call. Unbiased since she is not on the money trail.
I think that she would be very biased...
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trayvon-martins-stepmother-speaks-out-i-dont-think-zimmerman-picked-him-out-because-he-was-black/
Trayvon Martin’s Stepmother Speaks Out: I Don’t Think Zimmerman ‘Picked Him Out Because He Was Black’
11:35 am, June 29th, 2013
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She became emotional again when talking about losing a child she raised for most of his life, and described how painful it was to not be able to sit in the front row at Martin’s funeral. She told Cooper that it would be “heartbreaking” and “unbelievable” if ZImmerman is found not guilty.
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 2m
Nakasone says you can't tell how old person is in 911 call in question because situation is too extreme and could come from ppl of many ages
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 4m
Nakasone told the FBI a reenactment to try to get a voice sample to compare to 911 call would be too difficult to do b/c situation extreme
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 8m
Nakasone says screams on 911 call came from someone in an "extreme emotional state--facing deadly situation."
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 10m
Nakasone going over why 30 seconds of conversational speech is needed to make voice analysis sample testable.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
West's done with cross-examination. Mantei back up for redirect. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: You'd caution jury about relying on witness opintions of screamer? State objects. Sustained. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
West: Best chance to ID speaker is people familiar with #GeorgeZimmerman and/or #TrayvonMartin? Nakasone: "That is my opinion, yes."
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
West: Screamer could've been 50? Nakasone: A scientist "may not attempt.. to guess or estimate" age. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 55s
Nakasone: FBI doesn't dictate law enforcement's approach to sample gathering unless asked to direct them. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Has Alicia ever said who she thought was screaming?
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Almost 2 hours and still going to say "I don't know"
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 36s
Nakasone again says it's best to have people id voices, even familiar voices, by listening individually. People tend to "follow the leader"
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 4m
Nakasone, answering state, says cops don't always mimic lab techniques.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 5m
Nakasone reiterates that people familiar with a voice in a lot of conditions are best to identify voice.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 7m
West is done questioning. Mantei is doing re-direct.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nakasone on bias issue: When people listen together, "they have a tendency to sort of follow the leader." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nakasone says FBI uses a mix of computerized and human analysis "woven together." #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
Nakasone says FBI uses a mix of computerized and human analysis "woven together." #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
Robert Mitchell IIIRobert Mitchell III @RLM_3 4m
@JeffWeinerOS I think he said a #hybrid
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
@RLM_3 He said both.
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Robert Mitchell IIIRobert Mitchell III @RLM_3 19s
@JeffWeinerOS Hybrid means "mixture" so he possibly could have said both, but you omitted hybrid. Thanks.
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Court is in recess for 15 minute. Nakasone is done testifying
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 5m
Jury still looks interested in Nakasone's testimony.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 6m
It seems clear that Nakasone would not suggest what Sanford officials did--gathered family of #TrayvonMartin and played 911 call together
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Court in recess for 15 minute break. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nakasone: No "technology or scientific device" can judge this audio. Doesn't preclude people familiar with parties. #ZimmermanTrial
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 5m
Court is back in session. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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