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Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5 6/19/13 - 7/2/13 (Read 343201 times)
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5
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Quote from: alagary on June 24, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
I'm surprised at how few are monitoring this site during testimony.
It isn't that surprising at all. This has been a very polarizing event and the undercurrent here is that GZ is innocent and TM is a thug and a dirtbag. The best part is the tweet posting and I thank you all for doing that.
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5
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June 25, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/yamiche
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Prosecutor Richard Mantei says the calls are relevant because the case will include info about Zimmerman's neighborhood watch activity
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Here's a story by colleagues and I @USATODAY did about Zimmerman's calling history
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-12/zimmerman-trayvon-martin-shooting/56166884/1
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 7m
Yesterday however the jury heard a call by #GeorgeZimmerman about another suspicious black male before the defense had time to object.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 8m
Reminder: Lawyers will argue about whether a call by #GeorgeZimmerman about another suspicious black male will be allowed into evidence
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 11m
Lawyers this morning immediately approached the bench and now both sides are discussing among themselves.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 16m
Court is back in session. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Quote from: MuffyBee on June 24, 2013, 09:18:12 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-friend-trayvon-martins-father-cursed-courthouse/story?id=19475915
Tracy Martin, left, and Sybrina Fulton, parents of slain teen Trayvon Martin, speak in a news conference prior to opening arguments in the trial of George Zimmerman at the Seminole County Courthouse, June 24, 2013, in Sanford, Fla. (John Raoux/AP Photo)
The tree from which the apple fell?
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What good is a neighborhood watch that does not call the poliice?
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June 25, 2013 Tweets cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 5m
Mantei on prior calls of Zimmerman about other suspicious people: "This is evidence of hostility."
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 8m
Mantei says the calls show an ongoing building up of frustration by #GeorgeZimmerman
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June 25, 2013 Tweets cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Mantei: #GeorgeZimmerman created these calls and the encounter with #TrayvonMartin
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Mantei also shows calls show that Zimmerman was not a "naive caller" and knew dispatcher language.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 4m
Mantei also says the calls may also show one of the reasons Zimmerman purchased a gun since defense said GZ got it to shoot neighbor's dog
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5
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Quote from: flamom on June 25, 2013, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: alagary on June 24, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
I'm surprised at how few are monitoring this site during testimony.
It isn't that surprising at all. This has been a very polarizing event and the undercurrent here is that GZ is innocent and TM is a thug and a dirtbag. The best part is the tweet posting and I thank you all for doing that.
FLAMom, sadly this took a racial tone from the outset. When Zimmerman was referred to as a "white" Hispanic by the MSM I thought that to be one of the most offensive and uncalled for reporting's I have ever seen. They wanted to make it racial, instead of about the law. Sad, very sad.
I have my theories as to what happened and will hold for a little later. But I think they are spot on for what happened. Zimmerman I do not believe set out to shoot Trayvon, but sadly it happened. All too often in today's society we have confrontations both verbal and physical. However, one never knows if one has a gun.
The fact the race card has been played is unreal. Would that be the case if George Zimmerman was a "black" Hispanic?
Justice is supposed to be blind, we shall see.
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5
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June 25, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 19m
Mantei: Standard is evidence could prove "any material fact," in this case, helps to prove element of crime. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 20m
Mantei: State will present more testimony & evidence on #GeorgeZimmerman's law enforcement interest, Neighborhood Watch. #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 21m
Prosecutor Mantei: Jury already heard one prior #GeorgeZimmerman call, hard to "unring that bell." #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 22m
State & defense start out argument by disagreeing on who should go first. Nelson: "Somebody start." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Orlando Sentinel @orlandosentinel 24m
Follow @JeffWeinerOS, @renestutzman and @OSTrayvonMartin for #GeorgeZimmerman and #TrayvonMartin coverage.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 24m
Before testimony today, lawyers will debate whether #GeorgeZimmerman's prior calls to police are relevant to the #TrayvonMartin shooting.
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 25m
Lawyers are still talking something over at the bench. Stay tuned. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 29m
@PaulHSullivan Welcome! You can bookmark that link; barring tech issues, we'll be using the same one thru the trial.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 34m
Court's back in session. Begins with lawyers at the bench with Circuit Judge Debra Nelson. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5
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Quote from: alagary on June 25, 2013, 08:50:14 AM
What good is a neighborhood watch that does not call the poliice?
So there are past calls to 911 of black teenagers in the neighborhood committing crimes by Zimmerman? Oh the horror. Isn't that what his job was supposed to be as a volunteer neighborhood watchman? So that is considered profiling? That would be called a fact, not profiling. Its about those that are committing crimes or attempting to, not the color of one's skin. Geez.
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #5
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June 25, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 11m
Mantei on #GeorgeZimmerman: "He is not a naive (police) caller." #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 13m
Mantei: #GeorgeZimmerman calls show "building level of frustration this defendant had" before #TrayvonMartin shooting.
Amy Kaufeldt @amykaufeldt 14m
Oh! Our first "bad word" of the day during #zimmerantrial coverage. Viewer discretion is advised! #Fox35
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 15m
Mantei: Calls help show if #GeorgeZimmerman suspicion specific to #TrayvonMartin "or if he considers a lot of other things to be suspicious"
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 15m
Mantei mentions "profiling" in discussion of #GeorgeZimmerman's state of mind. #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 17m
Mantei: "I'm still waiting for any showing of prejudice to the defense" if calls are let in. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 19m
@mrdaveyd Thanks!
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 19m
Mantei: "Obviously the state has the burden of establishing that this is also not self-defense." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 20m
Mantei: "Anything that is relevant to establish... the defendant's state of mind meets the definition of relevance." #GeorgeZimmerman
Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 20m
#Trayvon's parents enter the c-room w/ atty Daryl Parks. No BenCrump, whom the court ordered out yesterday after argument. #Trayvon.
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June 25, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Lyle Mazin @LyleMazin 5m
The numbers O'mara is referring are the Rules of Evidence. Rule 404 is the rule regarding character evidence. #Zimmerman
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
That last quote may have been "little to no," based on other tweets I'm seeing.
Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 6m
#GeorgeZimmerman's sister has entered the c-room. His mom & pop are banned cause they're listed witness. #Trayvon
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: State has "little, if any direct evidence to support" 2nd-deg murder. Using this as circumstantial. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara now arguing: State's trying "to bring in similar fact evidence" as prior bad acts. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 8m
Mantei: #GeorgeZimmerman calls relevant to "element of the crime" & "potential defense." #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 9m
Mantei: #GeorgeZimmerman calls "relevant to establish context" to #TrayvonMartin shooting.
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 12m
Mantei: State entitled to evidence "which paints an accurate picture of the events surrounding the crime charged." #GeorgeZimmerman
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Now I'm caught up...
June 25, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara asks judge to make state establish "connectivity" of calls, other evidence. Says they can't. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: State needs to give judge basis for calls, "now we've shown #GeorgeZimmerman as this whatever they're going to show." #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara: Still at issue whether "any prior act of my client should come into evidence." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: State to tell jurors: "Well now we want you to presume... he was seething unde
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June 25, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara asks judge to make state establish "connectivity" of calls, other evidence. Says they can't. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara: State needs to give judge basis for calls, "now we've shown #GeorgeZimmerman as this whatever they're going to show." #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Still at issue whether "any prior act of my client should come into evidence." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: State to tell jurors: "Well now we want you to presume... he was seething under the surface." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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June 25, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: State can only use character evidence to rebut. Judge: What about your opening? O'Mara: Not evidence #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: State putting #GeorgeZimmerman's character on trial. "They can stay state of mind, but it's character." #TrayvonMartin
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Quote from: alagary on June 25, 2013, 08:50:14 AM
What good is a neighborhood watch that does not call the poliice?
In my opinion, not calling a non-emergency number to report suspicious activity is an ineffective neighborhood program. He and his neighbors were doing their job in helping police with community safety and preventing crime. I think that the prosecutors are trying to connect previous calls with a call that ended tragically--in this case.
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June 25, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: "Basically both arguments are apples and oranges." State & defense far apart in argument on this. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
@myideaof No ruling yet. That's what O'Mara argued.
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Diana Tennis @TennisLaw 3m
Both will open doors to unintended consequences w/ cross exam. Def. pointing out if GZ character at issue = good evid. coming in. #fox35
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
@natural_beauT No ruling yet. Judge asked them to research further overnight and come back for more argument.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: Defense has to put #GeorgeZimmerman's character at issue first, then state gets to rebut. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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https://twitter.com/yamiche
Nae.✨ @AshleyJonnae 3m
follow @Yamiche for live tweets from the zimmerman trial
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O'Mara says prior "good acts" can't be used against #GeorgeZimmerman so prior calls to police shouldn't come in. #TrayvonMartin
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Judge Nelson asks whether the defense opened the door when asking dispatcher about Zimmerman's behavior.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 7m
O'Mara says #GeorgeZimmerman 's character is at issue and that the state can't bring up character unless the defense brings it up
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 10m
O'Mara says #GeorgeZimmerman was acting responsibly and state will try to argue he was doing something wrong
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 11m
O'Mara says the calls don't show ill will, hatred or second degree murder
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 13m
Mark O'Mara says calls don't show any bad acts by #GeorgeZimmerman "He was acting fine."
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June 25, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 17s
O'Mara made repeated reference to 90.404 in the evidence code. Here's that statute:
http://bit.ly/11XTSpA
#GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
State is arguing relevance, defense is arguing prior bad acts, though O'Mara calls them "prior good acts." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Quote from: grace-land on June 25, 2013, 09:13:53 AM
Quote from: alagary on June 25, 2013, 08:50:14 AM
What good is a neighborhood watch that does not call the poliice?
In my opinion, not calling a non-emergency number to report suspicious activity is an ineffective neighborhood program. He and his neighbors were doing their job in helping police with community safety and preventing crime. I think that the prosecutors are trying to connect previous calls with a call that ended tragically--in this case.
My area doesn't have a neighborhood watch, but because there have been 6 break ins during the day in the last 6 months, we've been told by the Sheriff's Dept. to call in any suspicious activity to 911. There is a non emergency number, but they said use that for other things, like reporting a dead deer in the road etc. I live in a very nice, upscale neighborhood, btw. No crime until this summer. The homes that were broken into were profiled by the thieves as occupants that leave daily for work and don't have alarms.
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June 25, 2013 Tweets cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
O'Mara on prosecutors: "They have nothing and they want to make a stealth argument." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 5m
O'Mara basically says the state doesn't have direct evidence and state wants to use calls and make circumstantial arguments.
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===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Natalee Holloway
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