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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #6 7/2/13 - 7/9/13  (Read 83373 times)
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« on: July 02, 2013, 05:43:50 PM »

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I'm with the majority of American's that voted for Hillary Clinton

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 05:48:21 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 06:28:13 PM »

Thanks for the clean cage Klaasend!!!   
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 08:11:31 PM »

     Thank you to any monkey who has helped me follow what is happening without
having to sit and watch it on TV.  I find it painful to hear the talking heads.  I know that I can go on with life and come back to this thread to bring myself up-to-date...

I keep wanting to say that, while some feel that GZ was not beaten up "enough", would "enough" be if he had had a skull fracture....because hitting your head on cement may cause that to happen...it just had not happened yet.  And of course
this is just my own opinion....thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 10:47:24 PM »

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-update-exclusive-mid-day-7-serino-more-ambivalent-osterman-supports-self-defense/

Zimmerman Update Exclusive Mid-Day 7 Serino more ambivalent, Osterman supports self-defense
Posted by Andrew Branca    Tuesday, July 2, 2013 at 1:52pm

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-trial-day-7-wrap-up-prosecution-recovers-a-little-prepared-to-introduce-college-records-2/

Zimmerman Trial Day 7 Wrap Up: Prosecution recovers a little, prepared to introduce college records
Posted by Andrew Branca    Tuesday, July 2, 2013 at 7:00pm
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 07:46:19 AM »

https://twitter.com/NancyGraceHLN

Nancy Grace ‏@NancyGraceHLN 11h
There is a hell of a difference between saying #Trayvon jumped out from bushes & that he walked from 15 feet away #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 08:08:52 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13s
#ZimmermanTrial resumes 8:30 a.m. | Stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
State's motion seeks to block defense expert who says #GeorgeZimmerman followed law, "exhibited restraint" before shooting #TrayvonMartin.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
PDF: State asks to block defense law-enforcement expert's opinions in #ZimmermanTrial http://bit.ly/16O5XSM  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31m
#ZimmermanTrial: Argument this morning on #GeorgeZimmerman college records | Story we'll update: http://bit.ly/16O3l7w  #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 08:43:24 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
O'Mara says if history of #GeorgeZimmerman is relevant so is the history of #TrayvonMartin fighting

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Mark O'Mara says the information is irrelevant and state would have to prove #GeorgeZimmerman was at a lecture about stand your ground.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  12m 
Lawyers are discussing whether to allow the jury to learn about a class Zimmerman took that mentioned stand your ground.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
Court is back in session. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  17m 
Court starts at 8:30 this morning. #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 08:44:39 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara on #GeorgeZimmerman coursework w/law enforcement scenarios: "None of these scenarios would have any relevance to anything."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara also argues school records documenting #GeorgeZimmerman's criminal justice classes are irrelevant. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara says Prince William County PD rejection letter for #GeorgeZImmerman police application is also irrelevant, no "proper foundation."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
O'Mara on release form for #GeorgeZimmerman police ride-along: "I don't find any relevance in it," 2 years old. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
For new folowers: O'Mara = defense attorney Mark O'Mara. Nelson = Circuit Judge Debra Nelson.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
O'Mara: If #GeorgeZimmerman's history is relevant, so is #TrayvonMartin's "history of fighting." Nelson: That's not what the law says.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
O'Mara: State must show evidence addresses state's theory "in legal ways & in factual ways." Otherwise, "collateral issue." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
O'Mara: Textbook state wants to admit doesn't mention "stand your ground." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
O'Mara: College records "irrelevant." State 1st needs to show "he was actually at the class." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Orlando SentinelOrlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 15m
Follow @renestutzman, @JeffWeinerOS and @OSTrayvonMartin for #GeorgeZimmerman trial updates. Watch live and chat http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Corut back in session, argument soon on #GeorgeZimmerman school records. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 08:49:20 AM »

https://twitter.com/AmandaOberWESH

Amanda Ober ‏@AmandaOberWESH 5m
O'Mara says defense will put on a "full case".  Says they have lots of witnesses to refute state's case in #GeorgeZImmerman
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 08:50:49 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mantei says #GeorgeZimmerman had a desire to become a police officer and spoke in police jargon. That's why history is relevant, Mantei says

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Assistant State Attorney Richard Mantei says some coursework of #GeorgeZimmerman include chapters on profiling & excelling as a witness

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
O'Mara says #GeorgeZimmerman was just somebody who wanted to ride along with the police. That fact is irrelevant, O'Mara says
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 08:51:47 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei gives example of #GeorgeZimmerman police jargon: "'I unholstered my firearm,' not, 'I pulled my gun.'" #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: "His extracurricular life" mirrored interest. "He profiles," speaks in "written police jargon." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei on #GeorgeZimmerman: "He has had a desire to be an actual police officer." GZ "elected to take" this coursework. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Prosecutor Mantei: "More than one" theory in case. O'Mara's argument "overstates what the actual law is." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
O'Mara: Textbook includes section on profiling. Says it's "speculative," would be "dangerous" to submit to jury. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 08:52:40 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Records relevant if they show "why the defendant took a particular series of steps." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2013, 08:59:05 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
Mantei gives example of #GeorgeZimmerman police jargon: "'I unholstered my firearm,' not, 'I pulled my gun.'" #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Mantei: Shooting was straw that broke the camel's back. #GeorgeZimmerman was a camel carrying around an ambition to be a police officer

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Mantei: The jury should know that #GeorgeZimmerman was taking classes on criminal litigation and investigation.
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2013, 09:01:50 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  49s 
Mantei: #GeorgeZimmerman applied to be a police officer. "He still wants go be one."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Mantei: Did #GeorgeZimmerman observe or did he profile? Jury should decide using past history.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  8m 
Mantei: "This is simply a fact the jury ought to know."
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2013, 09:04:22 AM »

New legal argument: The defendant did nothing illegal so he must be guilty.
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2013, 09:08:54 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mantei: Information about #GeorgeZimmerman shows a continuous interest in policing and criminal justice issues

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2013, 09:11:42 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: State will use #GeorgeZimmerman's class work as bad acts, didn't give proper notice. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara asks for "a couple of hours" continuance to review caselaw. Nelson: No continuance. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara asks for more time. Nelson: I gave you overnight, "I have a jury sitting back there." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Mantei: #GeorgeZimmerman didn't have to be present in class for relevance: "He paid for it, he took it" & pursued degree. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Mantei on #GeorgeZimmerman ride-along & Va. rejection letter: "It shows his continuing involvement" and "defendant's state of mind."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
Mantei: There's been testimony #GeorgeZimmerman followed #TrayvonMartin bc of dispatcher's questions. School records show he "knows better."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
Mantei: Knowledge of tactics isn't necessarily character or "prior bad acts" evidence, "It's just relevant evidence." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Mantei: "The state isn't asserting that these are bad acts," but can help jury understand GZ's actions on night of #TrayvonMartin shooting.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
Mantei citing caselaw, using powerpoint presentation. Notes state has burden to disprove #GeorgeZimmerman self-defense claim. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
Mantei: Records relevant if they show "why the defendant took a particular series of steps." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2013, 09:12:51 AM »

July 3, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  55s 
O'Mara says state shouldn't be able to bring in #GeorgeZimmerman 's good acts and argue to jury that they are bad acts and fustrations

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mantei was adamant that records show state of mind of Zimmerman and the idea that Zimmerman could have known how police investigations work

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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2013, 09:14:37 AM »

July 3, Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 53s
O'Mara: "The problem here is that we do not have any connection" between #GeorgeZimmerman's interest in law enforcement & facts of case.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara wants a proffer (no-jury-present testimony) to establish relevance. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
Watch the #GeorgeZimmerman trial as both sides go at it http://www.orlandosentinel.com/oslivevideo-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-20130528,0,7496592.htmlstory
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: "What does the state say happened... that makes this information relevant to prove a fact?" #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
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