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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #6 7/2/13 - 7/9/13  (Read 240349 times)
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2013, 09:21:32 AM »

July 3, Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Judge rules testimony, records from #GeorgeZimmerman's criminal justice courses are allowed into trial. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Nelson: "The testimony bears directly on an issue in this case." It's allowed in. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@Shelley514 He got an A and a B in the two classes the state wants to introduce testimony on. Unclear which involved SYG.
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@swkr_in_trning A proffer would involve witnesses testifying, not just argument by attorneys. Like trial testimony but no jury.
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2013, 09:21:42 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Ten minute recess.

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@Feeney4NABJ Thanks!
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@Feeney4NABJ Thanks.
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Make sure yall follow this year's NABJ Emerging Journalist of the Yr @Yamiche who is providing updates on the Zimmerman trial. Great job
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Judge Nelson has ruled that school records, rejection letter from police department and police ridealong of #GeorgeZimmerman will come in
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2013, 09:22:32 AM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
10 minute recess as attorneys prepare for next witness. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Also in: Virginia police department's rejection of #GeorgeZImmerman's police application & Sanford PD ride-along paperwork. #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2013, 09:25:20 AM »

It's probably just me, but it seems to me if GZ's classes, his ride along and etc. is relevant, so would Trayvon's school records, including his suspensions and his fighting.  Did TM have a history?    I'm not just trying to be tit for tat, but to me it could show frame of mind, etc. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2013, 09:26:16 AM »

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#ZimmermanTrial: Judge allows testimony on #GeorgeZimmerman's criminal justice classes | Updated: http://bit.ly/16O3l7w  #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2013, 09:28:41 AM »

It's probably just me, but it seems to me if GZ's classes, his ride along and etc. is relevant, so would Trayvon's school records, including his suspensions and his fighting.  Did TM have a history?    I'm not just trying to be tit for tat, but to me it could show frame of mind, etc. 
Hi muffy! 
TM is not on trial. His state of mind is not an issue..if he was the last man standing and GZ had died, TM records would most certainly be appropriate. Travis Alexander was remurderd and slandered... that is not the norm
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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2013, 09:30:52 AM »

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Judge allows #georgezimmerman police training school records in evidence. Well argued by state. I agree.  #trayvonmartin @cnn @cfn13 @hlntv
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2013, 09:34:47 AM »

Martins twitter would be better. He wanted a gun and bragged about fights. Just the sort of boy scout that would love the chance to jump some creepy ass cracka so he could score points with dd
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2013, 09:37:47 AM »

It's probably just me, but it seems to me if GZ's classes, his ride along and etc. is relevant, so would Trayvon's school records, including his suspensions and his fighting.  Did TM have a history?    I'm not just trying to be tit for tat, but to me it could show frame of mind, etc. 
Hi muffy! 
TM is not on trial. His state of mind is not an issue..if he was the last man standing and GZ had died, TM records would most certainly be appropriate. Travis Alexander was remurderd and slandered... that is not the norm

Yes TM is not on trial, but the rules of evidence are not supposed to be bias toward one individual. These types of rulings create grounds for appeal. This evidence does not identify a fact, it is to create an image of an individual. Thus, why wouldn't the other be valid as well. A judge is determining the relevancy of evidence. That may later be appealable. Just saying.
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2013, 09:38:17 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  16s 
Sonja Boles-Melvin is done with no cross.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Witness is Sonja Boles-Melvin, registrar of Seminole State College. She was quickly questioned. Zimmerman applied to graduate spring 2012

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Court is back and jury is back in court. State just called its next witness.

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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2013, 09:42:21 AM »

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Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  2m 
Kearns says official applications are destroyed after 3 yrs. but retains some info.
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Next is state witness Scott Kearns, operations officer with Va. Prince Williams Co. Police.
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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2013, 09:44:32 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Don West up for cross. He's pointing out that Kearns doesn't have knowledge of #GeorgeZimmerman 's application.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Kearns says #GeorgeZimmerman was sent rejection on July 8, 2009. He says nothing sinister when someone gets rejected b/c a lot apply.
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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2013, 09:49:47 AM »

It's probably just me, but it seems to me if GZ's classes, his ride along and etc. is relevant, so would Trayvon's school records, including his suspensions and his fighting.  Did TM have a history?    I'm not just trying to be tit for tat, but to me it could show frame of mind, etc. 


 Hi muffy! 
TM is not on trial. His state of mind is not an issue..if he was the last man standing and GZ had died, TM records would most certainly be appropriate. Travis Alexander was remurderd and slandered... that is not the norm

TM is not on trial here, I agree flamom.  However, he is a part of the equation, possibly beyond being a victim.  After reading the transcripts, reading reports, reading tweets, I have questions concerning TM's actions the night he was shot.  Did he have a history of violence or fighting?  Had he been involved in fights?  GZ may have "followed him" but I wonder why if he was afraid he didn't call 911 himself?  Why didn't he go on in to his Dad's house, he was close.   I wonder if he decided to whip GZ's hiney and put that on his smart phone.  How did it get to the point there was a fight on the ground?  Please don't get me wrong flamom.  It is really a tragedy there is a 17 year old dead in this.  I would like to know the truth.  I don't believe Rachel told the whole story, and I believe she's under pressure to keep it that way.  She may have been egging TM on.  On the flip side, I don't believe like GZ's air marshall buddy's statement that everyone that's not a convicted felon should carry a firearm.  That's nuts.  I do believe in the right to carry, but it's not for everyone, nor should it be. 



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« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2013, 09:51:27 AM »

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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
West: You don't have personal memory of #GeorgeZImmerman's application, his references? Kearns: No. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Defense attorney Don West up for cross examination of Kearns. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Date of #GeorgeZimmerman's police application rejection letter: July 8, 2009. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
Kearns: Records kept 3 years, then destroyed. #GeorgeZimmerman's application was destroyed. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
Next up: Scott Kearns, of Prince William County (Va.) police. #GeorgeZimmerman applied to be an officer there. #TrayvonMartin

 Betsy DevineBetsy Devine ‏@betsythedevine 16m
The Orlando Sentinel is live-streaming and covering #ZimmermanTrial http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-18-20130703,0,665387.story … Also @JeffWeinerOS @renestutzman live-tweeting it
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Defense has no questions, Boles-Melvin excused. Documents she authenticated moved into evidence. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Boles-Melvin: #GeorgeZimmerman applied for graduation 10/17/2011. Expected to graduate by Spring 2012. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
Next state witness: Sonja Boles-Melvin, registrar for Seminole State College. School #GeorgeZimmerman attended. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
Court back in session. Jury brought into court for 1st time today. http://bit.ly/11wpinH  #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2013, 09:52:23 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Kearns is done. Next up is professor who taught #GeorgeZimmerman criminal litigation in college

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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2013, 09:53:04 AM »

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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Carter: "We talked about the law, elements of the law," criminal proceedure. Says #GeorgeZimmerman got an A. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Next witness: Capt. Alexis Carter of U.S. Army JAG. Teacher for #GeorgeZImmerman's criminal litigation course. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
West: #GeorgeZimmerman was rejected because of his credit? Kearns: "Yes sir." #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
West takes #GeorgeZimmerman through paperwork, indicates GZ spoke Spanish. Kearns: That was self-reported, GZ wasn't tested. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jessica GillespieJessica Gillespie ‏@jessilespie 7m
Follow @renestutzman, @JeffWeinerOS and @OSTrayvonMartin for #GeorgeZimmerman trial updates. Watch live and chat http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ
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Follow @renestutzman, @JeffWeinerOS and @OSTrayvonMartin for #GeorgeZimmerman trial updates. Watch live and chat http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ
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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2013, 09:54:04 AM »

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Carter: Text wasn't specific to "stand your ground" law, but law was covered in class. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Carter on #GeorgeZImmerman: "He was probably one of the better students in the class." Text included self-defense info. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Carter now shown #GeorgeZimmerman's homework assignments. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2013, 09:55:51 AM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  22s 
Carter said he talked about self defense "quite a few times"  in class of #GeorgeZimmerman

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Professor is Alexis Carter who said #GeorgeZimmerman got an A in his criminal litigation class. They discussed stand your ground law
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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2013, 09:58:06 AM »

This is more interesting when the state is yelling at their own witness.
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« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2013, 09:58:54 AM »

muffybee ita on your perspective re: ccw.....  too many people with no self restraint or common sense.. 
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