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George Zimmerman trial: Defense testimony continues today
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 1m
@DestiGrace1 I did not see him but I didn't know who he was until yesterday. The judge has not addressed that accusation by the state
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Only one person is sitting in the back row of the public seating section. #Zimmermanon9
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 9m
He does crime scene reconstruction. He uses case information and measurements to create animation. #Zimmermanon9
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Shoemaker says he also uses motion-capture suit to add people to scene reconstruction. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Shoemaker uses motion capture suits to capture human movement and recreate crimes.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Shoemaker says he uses between 200 and 500 points on a crime scene to measure and reconstruct it.
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 2m
Marijuana will likely play role in Zimmerman trial
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Shoemaker: Suit uses accelerometers, which "give you a running log of your movements." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 2m
The motion suits are also used in medical applications to monitor a patient's progress. #Zimmermanon9
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 4m
The defense expert says he uses "motion capture" suits to simulate what happened at a crime scene. #Zimmermanon9
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 41s
Shoemaker is talking about other simulations he's done. Now will show one to the judge. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 37s
Shoemaker now showing Circuit Judge Debra Nelson an animation he did of another shooting.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 2m
State motion says employees of O'Mara's firm put motion capture suits on to recreate movements of #TrayvonMartin & #GeorgeZimmerman
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 4m
He can map the movements of the people involved by programming the recreated movements into their size measurements. #Zimmermanon9
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They're having problems showing the prior-case simulation in court. Shoemaker will play it for Nelson on his laptop. #ZimmermanTrial
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Quote from: Amys Sister on July 09, 2013, 02:02:51 AM
Quote from: cookie on July 08, 2013, 06:57:46 PM
would this case be getting so much attention if the crime was black on black, white on white or hispanic on hispanic?
what decides which cases get the most attention? the public? there must be hundreds of shootings that never get any attention...other than when the case is over and the shooter is sentenced or released....dunno...
Hi Cookie. IMO the case is getting attention because there was no arrest after the shooting of an unarmed teenager walking home. The person who left their vehicle and is the shooter exhibited anger at the 'punks who always get away'. He's also a big fat liar who knew he couldn't fight so carried a loaded ready to kill (oops, I mean shoot) gun instead. IMO, if both the killer and the victim were white this would still be newsworthy but let's face it, if Trayvon were white Zimmerman wouldn't have gone after him.
Imagine Trayvon was your son, black or white or whatever, and he had been shot in the dark in his own neighborhood by a man who had left his vehicle and come after him? Wouldn't you want an investigation and subsequent trial?
As an aside and not in response to you, doesn't everyone know pot makes a person more relaxed and calm and way less likely to start a fight or confrontation?
Hi amy's sister, I love reading your posts because you and i disagree on this case but you are always respectful about it. I have a few issues with your post and they are JMO as always and not directed at you.
First, IMO, this case is getting all the attention it is due to race baiters, the Crump/Jackson team, and Al Sharpton sticking their heads into this. One could argue that they did this because they wanted a thorough investigation (which I somewhat understand) but IMO there were other ways to do this rather than enrage the masses to the point that OBAMA said "trayvon could have been my son." If Trayvon had beaten GZ to death that night which is a huge possiblity had GZ not used justifiable means to defend himself, there would be no media attention on this outside the local media. I say this because we had a case like this a few years ago where two black teenagers beat a white man to death in the same manner (against concrete) and it only ever made the local news. Once the national media got involved with the Martin/Zimmerman case it also drew the interest of gun rights activists, etc, and now it's turned into a new animal. Also, Angela Corey's press conference announcing the charges was one of the most disturbing press conferences involving a case I have EVER seen. If Trayvon was my son, I would certainly want a thorough investigation, I can't say what I would do if that investigation showed that my son was the aggressor but I am willing to bet I would still be in a state of denial and want a trial anyway just as the Martin's have. Looking at this case as an *******, and trying to go into it with an open mind I now understand fully why the Sanford prosecutors office didn't feel they had enough for charges, and why Corey bypassed a grand jury (she was prob afraid she wouldn't get an indictment). This trial, unfortunately is about politics.
Secondly, GZ had a right to carry. My husband is in the army, a cop, and has a concealed weapons permit (i realize this might not be a fair comparison to GZ but still), he usually carries most places we go, believe me, my husband and others I know who carry don't carry because they know they can't fight. I personally don't like guns at all and would never own one or carry because I worry it could be used or turned against me as I am not proficient enough with firearms at this point.
Also, who's to say Zimmerman wouldn't have called the NEN number if Trayvon was white? There has been NO evidence of GZ being a racist. It just so happened that the other times he called to report crimes, the suspicious people were black. I'm sorry but statistically blacks commit more crime than whites and this is a fact. The FBI did a full investigation and found nothing that would point towards GZ being racist. I will however concede that it's possible he does have racist thoughts but just nothing that has been presented in evidence that I think a jury could hang their hat on to show "ill will, hatred, or a depraved mind." Especially after his black professor came on the stand and was very happy to see George, even saying "how you doin george?" this will not be lost on the jury, imo.
Also, in terms of your statement about pot making people relaxed, I can attest first hand that the one time I smoked weed in high school I was so paranoid I thought I was dying. I personally think the pot issue will be a wash with the jury but it had to come in because of the autopsy and Dr. Bao's statements (wow that man was a whacky M.E!).
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Nelson now watching the animation on Shoemaker's laptop and hearing him explain it.
David Ovalle David Ovalle @DavidOvalle305 4m
As of July 1, Florida dropped "Frye" standard, so this hearing conducted under "Daubert" test -- harder to get scientfic evidence in
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
The jury may have come to the courthouse 9 mins ago. It may be a while before they enter the courtroom since this hearing is for judge only
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 4m
The defense expert is showing animation he created in another case to the judge. The jury is not in court for this. #Zimmermanon9
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 6m
I have seen this type of animation used by a defense team in at least one case in the past. I will try to remember which one! #Zimmermanon9
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Screengrab: Shoemaker at the bench to show Judge Nelson animation he did in another case. #ZimmermanTrial
pic.twitter.com/LgSEtMRG9k
https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354588839030956035/photo/1
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Valerie Boey @vboey 1m
Public seating filling up. Looks like 1 or 2 seats left.#fox35
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Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Shoemaker testifies he goes through frequent training & certification, webinars every Friday, etc. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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@LyleMazin Lol. Will do.
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Shoemaker says he had more data in #GeorgeZimmerman case than for animation he just showed Nelson. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
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When a lady's cell went off the bailiff quickly snatched it out of her hands and took it outside, then told lady to leave.#fox35
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Shoemaker says he also uses Luxology software for 3-D scene reconstruction. Site:
http://bit.ly/HiXm6
#ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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What a life: Defense contractor who made 3D animation: I have a helicopter ... a drone. It takes aerial photos. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
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from Sanford, FL
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Shoemaker says first time he created animation for a court case was 2009.
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 2m
Shoemaker said he sometimes uses a helicopter to photograph crime scenes to provide an aerial view of them.
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Shoemaker explaining that he trains regularly on software he uses to recreate animations.
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