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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13  (Read 279756 times)
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« Reply #240 on: July 09, 2013, 06:56:32 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei suggests Schumaker changed avatar positions to make #GeorgeZimmerman's access to gun mesh with "mounting" account. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #241 on: July 09, 2013, 06:59:29 PM »



What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.
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« Reply #242 on: July 09, 2013, 07:00:30 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Screengrab: Another position from animation. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/nbQZG6T0ba



 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Screengrab: Animation of later position, again from Good's vantage. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/AqMmkc4iLA


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« Reply #243 on: July 09, 2013, 07:01:59 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker done testifying. Time for argument on animation. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker: Animation "isn't to examine the bullet trajectory," it's "position of Mr. Martin on top" consistent w/Di Maio. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #244 on: July 09, 2013, 07:02:59 PM »

Thank you for posting the pics Klaas!   
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« Reply #245 on: July 09, 2013, 07:03:32 PM »

July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
@PrettyInChrist I'm in court but you can watch @USATODAY  http://usat.ly/123GbGE
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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Nelson: Let's begin arguments.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Schumaker is done testifying and leaves with his roller bag, computer and water.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Schumaker says the purpose of the video is not to show bullet trajectory but to show the position of bodies and Trayvon on top of Zimmerman
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« Reply #246 on: July 09, 2013, 07:05:00 PM »

July 9, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Latest version of video based on trial testimony, "most up to date testimony available." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Schumaker "presented many many times," I'd suggest has been "generally accepted." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: "Underlying foundation" of animation "has been admitted in courts a lot." Schumaker never disqualified as expert.
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« Reply #247 on: July 09, 2013, 07:06:29 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: Where's testimony that #TrayvonMartin's punch was left handed? O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries support that. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #248 on: July 09, 2013, 07:07:34 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48s
#TrayvonMartin's mother testified TM is right handed, Nelson notes. O'Mara says physical evidence supports lefty strike. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Animation showed a left-handed punch. O'Mara adds that state expert Dr. Rao also said face injury was left-to-right. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #249 on: July 09, 2013, 07:08:55 PM »



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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
Interesting moment: O'Mara uses opposing counsel Mantei to demostrate righty-vs-lefty punch. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #250 on: July 09, 2013, 07:14:09 PM »

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@jasonsickles Thanks!

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Pic of Mantei-vs-O'Mara punch demonstration --> RT @jasonsickles: @JeffWeinerOS pic.twitter.com/ReyJXiUBWu

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson: Notes don't indicate Lauer saw anything, DS used her to put initial conflict at T? O'Mara: "She says she heard." #ZimmermanTrial

https://twitter.com/jasonsickles/status/354739773707005952/photo/1

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« Reply #251 on: July 09, 2013, 07:15:44 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Lauer said in cross-ex "that it happened in the area of the T-intersection." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@DianeAx Thanks! Yep, I'll be tweeting tomorrow morning too.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: Lauer used for position based on "where she heard it (noises) come from." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #252 on: July 09, 2013, 07:16:38 PM »



What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.

Magnolia, the following article might be helpful in answering your question/concerns:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/in-busting-zimmerman-myths-jonathan-capehart-perpetuates-the-greatest-myth-of-all/
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Posted by William A. Jacobson    Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 9:22am
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« Reply #253 on: July 09, 2013, 07:16:43 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
O'Mara: "no evidence to support anything but" what Good saw. Also included Di Maio. Acknowledges it is "estimation." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #254 on: July 09, 2013, 07:19:39 PM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
Mantei fake punches O'Mara for demonstration. Mantei looked happy.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Nelson asking why animation shows Trayvon punching Zimmerman with his left hand when Trayvon is right handed
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« Reply #255 on: July 09, 2013, 07:21:13 PM »

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Jorge K Gonzalez ‏@jorgekgonzalez 1m
In case you're wondering, we're still live with the Zimmerman trial on #fox35.
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Caselaw doesn't require a "perfect frame by frame rendition" to be admissible. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Court has already allowed state's timeline graphic as a visual aid, "That's exactly what an animation is." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara argues animation "would in fact assist the trier of fact (jury)" in understanding what happened between GZ & TM. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #256 on: July 09, 2013, 07:22:18 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei on animation: It's a "supposition inside a riddle, wrapped in an enigma." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@irasiegel Could be. Possible could be used as demonstrative aid, even if not admitted as evidence.
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« Reply #257 on: July 09, 2013, 07:23:55 PM »

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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  20s 
Angela Corey is back.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Nelson is expressing concerns including Lauer's testimony of what she heard being used to depict whether the fight started.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
State Attorney Angela Corey just left the courtroom. The trial and courtroom hearings have been going for more than 11 hours as of right now
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« Reply #258 on: July 09, 2013, 07:26:14 PM »

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mantei now arguing against animation. He's focusing on Schumaker never having re-created such a fight for a case before.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara basically says the animation doesn't have to be perfect but can show jurors what witnesses may have seen.
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« Reply #259 on: July 09, 2013, 07:27:30 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29s
Nelson: If allowed as demonstrative aid, same argument? Mantei: Standard "much higher" if evidence, would object either way. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei citing from caselaw. Says court may find "analytical gap" too large to admit. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartiN #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei: Schumaker "has never testified before" about this type of case, w/ this technology. #ZimmermanTrial
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