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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13  (Read 279684 times)
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« Reply #260 on: July 09, 2013, 07:29:25 PM »



What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.

Magnolia, the following article might be helpful in answering your question/concerns:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/in-busting-zimmerman-myths-jonathan-capehart-perpetuates-the-greatest-myth-of-all/
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Posted by William A. Jacobson    Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 9:22am



Thank you, Grace-land!!
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« Reply #261 on: July 09, 2013, 07:30:31 PM »

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Mantei: If defense wants "something like this" in closing, not a big issue. Says witnesses testified without needing it. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #262 on: July 09, 2013, 07:32:10 PM »

I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.
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« Reply #263 on: July 09, 2013, 07:32:55 PM »

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Mantei: Lefty punch in animation an assumption. "It is not hard for a right handed person to punch somone" on left of nose. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei says there's been no testimony method is peer-reviewed, or as to its error rate. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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Mantei: Tech not established as science. "What we've heard is they use it for the movies. Great. This is a murder trial." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #264 on: July 09, 2013, 07:34:51 PM »



What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.

Magnolia, the following article might be helpful in answering your question/concerns:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/in-busting-zimmerman-myths-jonathan-capehart-perpetuates-the-greatest-myth-of-all/
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Posted by William A. Jacobson    Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 9:22am



Thank you, Grace-land!!

You're welcome, Magnolia!
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« Reply #265 on: July 09, 2013, 07:34:54 PM »

July 9, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Lefty punch in animation an assumption. "It is not hard for a right handed person to punch somone" on left of nose. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei says there's been no testimony method is peer-reviewed, or as to its error rate. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei: Tech not established as science. "What we've heard is they use it for the movies. Great. This is a murder trial." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #266 on: July 09, 2013, 07:36:27 PM »

Sorry for the double post, I got distracted. 

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« Reply #267 on: July 09, 2013, 07:36:55 PM »

I do not think that the animation will b allowed.
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« Reply #268 on: July 09, 2013, 07:37:34 PM »

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Mantei: Defense using Schumaker for argument, that's "not the proper subject of expert testimony." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #269 on: July 09, 2013, 07:43:06 PM »

July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

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Mantei on why motion capture suits and animation as a whole shouldn't be admitted: "This is not Iron Man." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #270 on: July 09, 2013, 07:44:31 PM »

DAMMIT! I agree with Mantei , bullets and cars are one thing,, it can't do people. 
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« Reply #271 on: July 09, 2013, 07:46:11 PM »

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Mantei: Opinions in animation "are not of Mr. Schumaker," they're Di Maio's, who already testified without needing it. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #272 on: July 09, 2013, 07:47:35 PM »

I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

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It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.
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« Reply #273 on: July 09, 2013, 07:47:57 PM »

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Nelson: How does animation assist expert in testimony? O'Mara: "Animation itself is substantive evidence. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

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Mantei: If ani used, Court should craft "significantly strong admonishment to the jury," warning not meant to be accurate. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #274 on: July 09, 2013, 07:49:10 PM »

I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

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It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.


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I really wondered about that.    

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« Reply #275 on: July 09, 2013, 07:50:19 PM »

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O'Mara notes in-court demos he's done w/witnesses. Nelson: But "jury's not taking that back with them... to play over & over & over again."

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O'Mara again mentions state's timeline, which is already in. Nelson: "But your animation does more than a timeline." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #276 on: July 09, 2013, 07:50:59 PM »

I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

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It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.

It's a few facts with big holes filled in by a computer program and Schumaker
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« Reply #277 on: July 09, 2013, 07:51:33 PM »

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Nelson says animation uses Schumaker's common sense, assumption #TrayvonMartin used left hand for punch, not just evidence. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #278 on: July 09, 2013, 07:52:50 PM »

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O'Mara says it's "a given" that animation could be used in closing argument, but wants it in evidence. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #279 on: July 09, 2013, 07:54:06 PM »

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Nelson says she's reluctant to admit as evidence, mentions again concept of jury in deliberations watching it over & over. #ZimmermanTrial
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