Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13

[grace-land]

July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/RHughesWFTV

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  1m 
Defense will not bring in marijuana evidence, @Markomaralaw says. #ZIMMERMANon9.

[MuffyBee]

July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara on not using #TrayvonMartin THC testimony: "It didn't seem to be significant enough" to be "worthwhile making the focus on that."

[MuffyBee]

July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@seemaiyeresq Not yet, argument tomorrow. State wants manslaughter & agg assault.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Frustrated by "some of the phone evidence we got so late," says was still able to put on "pretty decent case." #ZimmermanTrial

[grace-land]

July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/RHughesWFTV

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  31s 
"We'll be cautious" if there's an acquittal, Mark O'Mara says about safety. #ZIMMERMANon9

[MuffyBee]

July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42s
Press conference over. Court resumes 9 a.m., state's closing argument at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@Justin_Edward81 The defense rested today. Arguments tomorrow & Friday. Verdict could be as soon as Friday.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: "Last year's worth" of burglary records in #GeorgeZimmerman's neighborhood admitted as evidence."Context of why George was calling."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Jury has been "listenting attentively," believes they'll follow instructions. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

[MuffyBee]

July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
Press conference over. Court resumes 9 a.m., state's closing argument at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 christine ‏@TWEETLEYYOURS 9m
@JeffWeinerOS does defense go second in closing? Isn't that typical?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@TWEETLEYYOURS Yes, that's how it goes. State, defense, state rebuttal.
3:32 PM - 10 Jul 13 ·

 christine ‏@TWEETLEYYOURS 3m
@JeffWeinerOS state twice? Hardly seems fair

[MuffyBee]

July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Just in: Special Prosecutor Angela Corey will answer media questions "immediately following" verdict #ZimmermanTrial. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Inoculated City ‏@Inoculated_City 1h
@JeffWeinerOS will this be live-streamed from the OS site?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@Inoculated_City Yup, same link as usual: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz

 Inoculated City ‏@Inoculated_City 8m
@JeffWeinerOS any idea what time Angela Corey will be answering questions? Thank you!

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@Inoculated_City After the verdict, can't predict when that will be.
3:35 PM - 10 Jul 13 ·

[Red]

July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson denies motion, Donnelly's testimony won't be struck. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Judge Nelson doesn't believe Donnelly knew he wasn't allowed in court. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

George Zimmerman trial: Judge denies prosecution request to strike witness testimony
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57593167-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-judge-denies-prosecution-request-to-strike-witness-testimony/

A judge in the case of suspected murderer George Zimmerman has denied a prosecution request to strike testimony of a friend of Zimmerman who said he heard the former neighborhood watch captain screaming in the background of a 911 call.

"On one hand the court is very very, very, very, very concerned -- that's four 'very's' for those who want to know -- about the rule of sequestration and the witnesses and counsel abiding by them, the question becomes whether the witness themselves had knowledge. I do not believe Mr. Donnelly had the knowledge because it was relayed to the court he was not specifically told," Judge Debra Nelson said.

[Red]

Watch Press conference with Mark O’Mara that he held with reporters and took questions from reporters.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-zimmerman-defense-attorney-mark-omara-holds-press-conference/

O’Mara said the jury should be able to conclude that “George had no alternative and he did only what he believed reasonably that he had to do to protect himself from great bodily injury.” He hoped that whatever sympathies the jurors may feel either way can be brushed aside for a decision that’s just based on the facts of the case.

He admitted he’s “still frustrated” that his team wasn’t able to get out all the evidence they wanted, but the man with bigger worries right now is Zimmerman, whom O’Mara said is very fearful for his love should he be found not guilty.

[islandmonkey]

OMG she isn't letting the phone in, REVERSIBLE error.  im sorry but this judge is so off the mark its ridiculous. 

  ITA- I see reversible error all over this case........very low threshold to bring in text messages and I wish I could say I was shocked, but with with Biatch totally not.....

This just isn't true.  It's been common knowledge in the legal community that these texts and images would likely not be permissible:

Article from May 2013
http://www.news4jax.com/news/george-zimmerman-attorneys-release-pictures-from-trayvon-martins-cellphone/-/475880/20273016/-/item/1/-/xglunr/-/index.html
 
Many other lawyers say most of this material will never be shown inside the Seminole County Courtroom during the trial this summer.

The new president of the local chapter of Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers agrees with the prosecutor on this issue.

"There is no reason why this information has been released, other than to affect jurors," said attorney Gene Nichols. "The allegation, or what the Zimmerman defense team wants everyone to believe, is that Trayvon was a violent young man. They want you to believe that Trayvon was involved with drugs because maybe he made statements over his texts. These are texts that would most likely never see the light of day in court."
 

It's also very unlikely that Trayvon Martin's parents believe losing their son was a favor to them.  You're a parent Island Monkey so I'm surprised you would believe that.

Well, facts are facts.......he was a thug ...sorry but I am not so naive as to believe he was the angel the MSM tried to portray him as, he was fighting so much his friends were telling him he needed to chill, swigging purple drank, vandalism, I believe he absolutely stole the jewelry found in his back pack, smoked a blunt on the way back from the conv store and was desperate to see more "bleed" , and trying hard to find a gun. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.......it's s damn duck!  And I didn't say favor or I don't think I did in my opinion, but lets be real, he certainly helped them move there way to the evil 1%'ers and are still suing. Again mom gave him up to baby daddy looking to lapdance Tracy and Alicia practically raised him, he went back to Sybrina who kicked him out and anyone would have a chip on their shoulder, and now their son who neither bothered to discipline now pays for their lifestyle and more coming, all politically driven by the racial agitators who stir shit because that's how they become the 1%'ers too, I have had it seeing parents with missing kids and dead thug teen or whatever makng money off of the pretense of justice and righteous indignation. If thie were black on black crime as in Chicago every damn day, or had he been white I guarantee this case could would have never been charged, GZ might have very well been too involved in trying to keep his community safe, but in a split second he became the sacrificial lamb to race baiters including our own corrupt DOJ and POTUS. My being a parent has nothing to do with it, I just call it as I see it and we all know what shit will go down if he walks and frankly I think the bat shit crazy judge who has perverted the constitution for the powers that be might shit her pants and throw another tantrum .

[grace-land]

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-defense-rests-closing-statements-start-tomorrow/

Zimmerman Defense Rests, Closing Statements Start Tomorrow
Posted by Andrew Branca    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 at 6:00pm

[grace-land]

Video at the link

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/07/10/Dershowitz-Zimmerman-Prosecutors-Going-for-a-Compromise-Manslaughter-Verdict

Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutors Going for a Compromise Manslaughter Verdict
by John Sexton  10 Jul 2013, 2:11 PM PDT

Speaking on the Steve Malzberg show, professor Alan Dershowitz argues that prosecutors had no business charging George Zimmerman with murder. They did so, he believes, in order to improve their chances at a "compromise verdict" of manslaughter.

As Dershowitz sees it, there is plenty of reasonable doubt to say that George Zimmerman is not guilty of murder and even enough to say he should not be convicted of manslaughter. However, jurors who feel sorry for the victim and his family may be induced to split the difference between murder and a not guilty verdict by finding Zimmerman guilty of manslaughter.

In reality a manslaughter conviction could result in Zimmerman spending nearly as much time behind bars as a murder conviction. From his perspective it is not a middle-ground.
 

[labubske]

Sonni AbattaSonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 5m
Defense:  This is ancient in time and act and was a "non-event to begin with."  Does not prove #Zimmerman is a fighter.  #Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: If state brings in #GeorgeZimmerman's prior arrest as character evidence, defense could call 30 to counter it. #ZimmermanTrial

So Zimmerman's prior bad acts, which by all accounts was a trumped us bunch of BS can be considered, but TM's prior bad acts can't be? HA! Wow is all I have to say.

If this is what our judicial system has come down too. How sad. 

Very sad...I expect GZ to get sentenced with something since the jury does not see what we are able to see...they likely see some sweet kid jut walking home and ambushed by GZ...some neighborhood watch guy with a gun...ya know...just wanting to shoot someone that night.  How ridiculous.  I just need to shut up.

[Tamikosmom]

Why was former police chief Bill Lee not called as a Defence witness? The entire article is a must read The implication is the George Zimmerman should never have been arrested. Was it all about PC Black appeasement?


Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ‘taken away from us’
Wed July 10, 2013

The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked “in a number of ways” by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial, told CNN’s George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

“It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn’t care if it got dismissed later,” he said. “You don’t do that.”

When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a “sound” investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said.

It had nothing to do with Florida’s controversial “Stand Your Ground” law, he said; from an investigative standpoint, it was purely a matter of self-defense.

Read more:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/justice/sanford-bill-lee-exclusive/index.html

[Tamikosmom]

DOJ ‘peacemakers’ helped Sanford stay cool amid rising tensions
10:52 p.m. EST, April 15, 2012

When racial tensions flared in Sanford, a league of secretive peacemakers reached out to the city’s spiritual and civic leaders to help cool heated emotions after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in February.

When civil-rights organizers wanted to demonstrate, these FEDERAL WORKERS taught them how to peacefully manage crowds.

They even arranged a police escort for college students to ensure safe passage for their 40-mile march from Daytona Beach to Sanford to demand justice.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-15/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-justice-departm-20120415_1_federal-workers-racial-tensions-peacekeepers
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Did Justice Department support anti-Zimmerman protests after Martin shooting?
Published July 10, 2013

A conservative watchdog group accused THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT of helping manage the “pressure campaign” last year against George Zimmerman in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting, citing documents that show an obscure agency spent thousands assisting local demonstrations

The little-known agency, the Community Relations Service, is described by the Justice Department as their “peacemaker” for community conflicts over race. ….

Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/10/did-justice-department-support-anti-zimmerman-protests-after-trayvon-shooting/

[Mere]

My idea of this case.....

Trayvon Martin, walking through the housing area with his purchases from the 7-11.
 
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch guy, walking through the housing area checking to see if the young man also walking is a neighbor or not.
 
Trayvon thinks George is suspicious.  George thinks Trayvon is suspicious.  They meet.  Why did they fight???
 
The easiest way to end the suspicion....."I am Neighborhood Watch."  "I am staying with my Dad."
 
Who threw the first punch?  Why did he do that?
 
 

[grace-land]

The information in the article below might be helpful, as a reference, when the lawyers/judge discuss the jury instructions tomorrow...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/even-if-george-zimmerman-is-found-not-guilty-of-murder-and-manslaughter-he-could-still-serve-25-years/

Even If George Zimmerman Found Not Guilty Of Murder And Manslaughter, He Could Still Get 25 Years
by Richard Hornsby | 10:05 pm, July 9th, 2013

To many people, there is no middle ground: George Zimmerman will either be convicted of Second Degree Murder or he will be found Not Guilty.

But the reality is much more complex, because the jury will have a number of Lesser Included Offenses to choose from.

And because of these numerous options, it is not uncommon for a jury to exercise what is known as their “pardon” or “nullification” power and return a compromise verdict that they believe is just under the circumstances. See generally Haygood v. State, 109 So. 3d 735 (Fla. 2013).

Lesser Included Offenses

In Florida, there are two types of Lesser Included Offenses:
1.Category One Lesser Offenses (Mandatory Lessers); and
2.Category Two Lesser Offenses (Discretionary Lessers).

While mandatory lesser offenses must be given, discretionary lesser offenses are only required if the Information alleges the essential elements of the offenses and one of the parties requests the lesser offense. See Herrington v. State, 538 So. 2d 850 (Fla. 1989).

Based on the schedule of applicable lesser offenses found in the Standard Jury Instructions for Second Degree Murder and the language found with the formal charging document filed against George Zimmerman, the likely lesser offenses applicable to George Zimmerman are:
•Manslaughter;
•Third Degree Felony Murder;
•Aggravated Battery;
•Aggravated Assault;
•Felony Battery;
•Culpable Negligence (Argument can be made not applicable);
•Battery; and
•Assault.

However, this equation is complicated by Florida’s 10-20-Life law (Florida Statute 775.087).

10-20-Life

Florida’s 10-20-Life law imposes enhanced penalties for crimes that involve a firearm.

The law has two primary enhancements:
 

 

[grace-land]

My idea of this case.....

Trayvon Martin, walking through the housing area with his purchases from the 7-11.
 
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch guy, walking through the housing area checking to see if the young man also walking is a neighbor or not.  GZ was in his vehicle when he saw TM and called non-emergency number to report suspicious person.  Followed TM.  GZ got out of the vehicle when he saw TM start to run.
 
Trayvon thinks George is suspicious.  George thinks Trayvon is suspicious.  Possible.  They meet.  Why did they fight???
 
The easiest way to end the suspicion....."I am Neighborhood Watch."  "I am staying with my Dad."
 
Who threw the first punch?  Why did he do that?  Depends on whose theory/story you believe--prosecution or defense.
 
 

 

My thoughts expressed in blue above.

The prosecution and defense will attempt to explain what happened that night during the closing arguments Thursday and Friday--their theories/stories, testimony of the witnesses, and evidence--then the jury will deliberate and come to a verdict.

 

[Amys Sister]

My idea of this case.....

Trayvon Martin, walking through the housing area with his purchases from the 7-11.
 
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch guy, walking through the housing area checking to see if the young man also walking is a neighbor or not.
 
Trayvon thinks George is suspicious.  George thinks Trayvon is suspicious.  They meet.  Why did they fight???
 
The easiest way to end the suspicion....."I am Neighborhood Watch."  "I am staying with my Dad."
 
Who threw the first punch?  Why did he do that?
 
 

Or George could have rolled his window down (after all, George states Trayvon circled his rig), informed Trayvon he was with Neighborhood Watch, and asked if he had a reason for being in the neighborhood.  Except George had to get all mister tough guy and make it weird by following him because he just knew this kid had to be up to no good and he wasn't going to let him get away.

[jamcakes]

http://www.qstarnews.com/a/articletemplate6.cfm?articlenumber=2715

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New Black Panther Party allegedly busing mobs to Sanford, Florida for expected riots

By Dean Chambers

Reports have come in from eye witnesses in Sanford, Florida that the New Black Panther Party, an extremist group that has called for the killing of George Zimmerman if he is found not guilty, is busing in thousands to that town. Sanford is the location of the trial and near the place where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by Zimmerman occurred. There have been threats of riots if Zimmerman is not found guilty and it is believed that the New Black Panther Party and other extremist groups will attempt to take advantage of racial tensions after a non guilty verdict by organizing riots.

Local police should be prepared for riots and Governor Rick Scott should be prepared to call in the National Guard at a moment's notice if needed. Local authorities should be ready to act and not allow this to create a situation like the South Central Los Angeles riots of 1992 after the verdict in the trial of the police officers that had beaten Rodney King.

It must also be remembered that these events are not “spontaneous” as the left wing media likes to portray them. They are deliberately organized. The riots in Los Angeles in 1992 were organized by several extremist left wing community organizer type groups including the local chapter of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

It should surprise no one that leftist groups are prepared to ignite rioting after the upcoming verdict in the George Zimmerman trial. Peaceful demonstrations should be allowed, but any degree of violence should immediately be stopped by local authorities.