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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13  (Read 279486 times)
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« Reply #780 on: July 11, 2013, 10:48:00 AM »

Let's face it. Every thing about this case is wrong. It is unfortunate that TM died and no one is arguing that, but this has gotten out of control just to prevent riots at the cost of a defendants right to a fair trial.

It was forced to have been brought against Zimmerman.

The judge has not acted in a fair and impartial manner.

And now the Court is allowing a Prosecutorial screw job to a defendant with this last second ambush.

Child abuse? Really? After not allowing all the evidence in on TM texts, she is going to allow this? What a travesty of justice to make sure GZ gets tried for something and the Al Sharpton's and Jesse Jackson's can have their pound of flesh.
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« Reply #781 on: July 11, 2013, 10:48:08 AM »

July 11, 2013 Tweets
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@JeffWeinerOS hi, why isnt Mark O'mara present?

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@Bogoroh He's working on defense's closing.
7:48 AM - 11 Jul 13 · Details

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@JeffWeinerOS thank you! Great reports!
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« Reply #782 on: July 11, 2013, 10:49:26 AM »

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#ZimmermanTrial MT @garywgreen: West motions towards Angela Corey in response to last minute child abuse charges. pic.twitter.com/Kar9WmZZjF

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« Reply #783 on: July 11, 2013, 10:50:09 AM »

If the judge allows this, whatever the verdict is will get reversed on appeal. This is what happens in 3rd world countries, not the USA

I agree Red. What this judge has done is guarantee that the case will continue to be a race issue for years ahead. Sad that GZ is being wronged like this. Where is the ACLU and Panthers during this violation of rights?
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« Reply #784 on: July 11, 2013, 10:50:22 AM »

July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  31s 
The instructions are the jury's guidebook in reaching a verdict. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The lawyers are arguing over the language in jury instructions which is tedious but important. #Zimmermanon9

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@veryfrank10 Scroll through: http://at.wftv.com/1344DqH  #Zimmermanon9
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense accused the state of pulling tricks again and the judge asked Don Wesr not to use the word "trick" any more. #Zimmermanon9
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« Reply #785 on: July 11, 2013, 10:50:26 AM »

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Mantei: #GeorgeZImmerman's admission of following #TrayvonMartin, testimony on pursuit is evidence of "provocation." #ZimmermanTrial

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West now disputing language about #GeorgeZimmerman "provoking" use of force against him. Says state must establish basis. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #786 on: July 11, 2013, 10:52:26 AM »

As I mentioned yesterday, I'm reading Andrew Branca's tweets, but haven't been posting them.  https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense
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« Reply #787 on: July 11, 2013, 10:53:04 AM »

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The state just said the facts show an equal possibility that either #Zimmermanon9 or Martin was the aggressor
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« Reply #788 on: July 11, 2013, 10:53:32 AM »

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West: "What Mr. Mantei just said isn't the law," adds "not even close to the law." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #789 on: July 11, 2013, 10:55:11 AM »

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West: #TrayvonMartin "had two or three minutes to get home... and chose not to." Says disputes #GeorgeZimmerman pursuing. #ZimmermanTrial

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West: One witness state cites made gross assumptions, another testified to new info on the stand. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #790 on: July 11, 2013, 10:56:13 AM »

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West: "There was no pursuit," #GeorgeZimmerman agreed when dispatcher said following #TrayvonMartin not needed. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #791 on: July 11, 2013, 10:56:20 AM »

It appears the the Prosecution is determined that GZ is not going to walk ... one way or another.  Somehow I believe the judiciary will comply.  The arrest of GZ has never been about justice for GZ.  It is all about a PC appeasement of the many within the Black community.  IMO 

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The Closing arguments set to begin in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 201
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Prosecutors are expected to deliver closing arguments this afternoon in the trial of George Zimmerman, after the judge rules on several key issues – including whether the jury can find the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer guilty of manslaughter in the death last year of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman’s lead attorney, Mark O’Mara, told reporters Wednesday after resting his case that the jury’s only option should be the second-degree murder charge brought by prosecutors. If jurors are unable to convict Zimmerman or murder, then he should be acquitted, O’Mara said, because the shooting on Feb. 26, 2012 was intentional.

“What George did was an intentional act that he knew he was pulling the trigger, the reason why he did it was self defense and that doesn’t suggest the manslaughter charge would be appropriate,” O’Mara said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/


 


It appears that the Prosecution get to throw EVERYTHING on the table at the END OF THE TRIAL to assure a conviction of something!!!

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Jury can consider manslaughter charge in Zimmerman trial
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George Zimmerman can still be convicted of manslaughter if the jury can't agree on a second-degree murder verdict, the judge in the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer's trial ruled Thursday. ....

Defense lawyers, who say Zimmerman acted in self-defense, argued against including manslaughter instructions to the jury. When prosecutors sought other lesser charges -- including felony murder based on a charge of child abuse -- Zimmerman attorney Don West lashed out in court.

"Just when I thought this case couldn't get any more bizarre, the state is seeking third degree murder charges based on child abuse?" he said after the prosecution's request. "It's outrageous that the state would seek to do this at this point."

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/
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« Reply #792 on: July 11, 2013, 10:56:46 AM »

What next for charges? Jaywalking?
They can not prove their case so they will put any charges on and hope that something will stick. Which something will stick now because the jury has so many options! Not fair to change and b allowed by the court. The judge lives in the  Sanford area. She is covering her own butt for re election and also  trying to stop the riots that can happen. I am outraged by this and I really hope that George walks now. But he won't and he is not getting a fair trial. Jmo!
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« Reply #793 on: July 11, 2013, 10:58:35 AM »

40% black population in Sanford.
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« Reply #794 on: July 11, 2013, 10:59:09 AM »

July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
Mantei: "There is evidence that the defendant is a provoker." Determining witness credibility is jury's job, not West's. #ZimmermanTrial

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Here's the instruction West wants blocked: However, the use of deadly force is not justifiable if you (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rla0cs
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« Reply #795 on: July 11, 2013, 11:00:11 AM »

If the judge allows this, whatever the verdict is will get reversed on appeal. This is what happens in 3rd world countries, not the USA

I agree Red. What this judge has done is guarantee that the case will continue to be a race issue for years ahead. Sad that GZ is being wronged like this. Where is the ACLU and Panthers during this violation of rights?


Totally agree with all said above! I am so pissed right now. Not for GZ necessarily but come on!
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« Reply #796 on: July 11, 2013, 11:02:00 AM »

July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: "As a matter of law, following someone... is not against the law," especially if reporting info to police. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei: "There is evidence that the defendant is a provoker." Determining witness credibility is jury's job, not West's. #ZimmermanTrial

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Here's the instruction West wants blocked: However, the use of deadly force is not justifiable if you (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rla0cs
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« Reply #797 on: July 11, 2013, 11:02:03 AM »

July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense says there is no evidence #Zimmermanon9 provoked the deadly confrontation.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense says Martin's friend said Martin first spoke to #Zimmermanon9 and walking behind someone is not provoking.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The defense says Martin had almost 4 minutes to go 348 feet to get away from #Zimmermanon9 but chose not to.
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« Reply #798 on: July 11, 2013, 11:04:23 AM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge Nelson rules for defense: Jury will not be read instruction on #GeorgeZimmerman "provoking" #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial

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West: Legal to report someone suspicious. "Whatever you think is suspicious is good enough." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #799 on: July 11, 2013, 11:06:28 AM »

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In a similar case in Pinellas County last year, the state did not charge finding following is not illegal or improper. #Zimmermanon9
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