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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13  (Read 278191 times)
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« Reply #840 on: July 11, 2013, 12:10:03 PM »

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Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

It amazes me that judges nowadays seem not to care whether what they do or say is prejudicial to the case or not.  It is obvious where her feelings are . . .
 
I truly have tried to keep an open mind about this case and just read and listen.  Like the jury perhaps.  But I can tell you, if I was on the jury and all of a sudden lesser charges were being presented as an option, I would think the prosecution is just trying to "win" their case.  It would not set well with me.  JMO
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« Reply #841 on: July 11, 2013, 12:10:09 PM »

I have been gone all morning to clear up my chores before closing. After catching up I know thats a good thing because I would have posted words that would have me banned.


Don't go getting yourself banned alagary.    Keep in mind "appeal".    JMHO 

This is way passed appeal or sanctions. What they are doing has to be criminal.
The whole thing has turned into a legal lynching.

 
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« Reply #842 on: July 11, 2013, 12:11:42 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

It amazes me that judges nowadays seem not to care whether what they do or say is prejudicial to the case or not.  It is obvious where her feelings are . . .
 
I truly have tried to keep an open mind about this case and just read and listen.  Like the jury perhaps.  But I can tell you, if I was on the jury and all of a sudden lesser charges were being presented as an option, I would think the prosecution is just trying to "win" their case.  It would not set well with me.  JMO


I agree!
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« Reply #843 on: July 11, 2013, 12:24:40 PM »

I've kept my mouth shut all morning too, b/c I've been dumbfounded.

How can an attorney plan his clients defense if he doesn't know the charges until after the trial?  Just doesn't make sense and would seem to not be a "fair" trial to allow the State to change the charges b/c the State failed to make their case.

TM's family wanted this to be a landmark civil rights trial of the 1st century. It's turning into one for a travesty of GZ's civil rights.
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« Reply #844 on: July 11, 2013, 12:34:59 PM »

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@JeffWeinerOS @OSTrayvonMartin - any decision on Agg Assault yet? THX

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
@seemaiyeresq State dropped agg assault, replaced it with 3rd degree felony murder. No decision on that yet. Manslaughter is in.
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« Reply #845 on: July 11, 2013, 12:35:11 PM »

@mhilgtx: #hoodies #corrupit Judge Nelson "Do you have anything to say before I pass sentence on your client?" Don West "Can we have a trial first?"
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« Reply #846 on: July 11, 2013, 12:35:55 PM »

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Yes. Story we'll update: http://bit.ly/13QFt56  MT @ts14ts: @JeffWeinerOS Can you confirm bomb threat at Sanford Civil Courthouse?
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« Reply #847 on: July 11, 2013, 12:36:11 PM »

I've kept my mouth shut all morning too, b/c I've been dumbfounded.

How can an attorney plan his clients defense if he doesn't know the charges until after the trial?  Just doesn't make sense and would seem to not be a "fair" trial to allow the State to change the charges b/c the State failed to make their case.

TM's family wanted this to be a landmark civil rights trial of the 1st century. It's turning into one for a travesty of GZ's civil rights.

exactly and you raise some good points.
I'm serious, if I was on the jury I would be saying WTH is going on . . .
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« Reply #848 on: July 11, 2013, 12:38:51 PM »

The article goes on to say deputies deemed the building safe for employees and visitors to return around lunchtime.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-seminole-county-civil-courthouse-bomb-20130711,0,1049319.story?sade
Bomb threat made at Seminole's civil courthouse
July 11, 2013

Seminole County's civil courthouse was evacuated while deputies investigated a bomb threat at the Sanford building, the Sheriff's Office said.

The agency's explosives team was on scene late Thursday morning at the courthouse on North Park Avenue.

Criminal trials are not conducted at the North Park Avenue location.
 
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« Reply #849 on: July 11, 2013, 12:40:59 PM »

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Nelson tells West not to continue arguing after she's ruled on an issue. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

It's about time.  He has been extremely disrespectful of the court.  Even O'mara has had to keep him in check a few times.

I agree that alleging child abuse at this point is wrong and am glad Nelson disallowed it.  Should have been a charge from the get go as Zimmerman admitted to knowing Trayvon was a child which makes his actions that night even worse, but it would be unfair to the defendant to include it just prior to closing.
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« Reply #850 on: July 11, 2013, 12:41:04 PM »

All anyone has to do is listen to former Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee's interview with CNN to understand the hatchet job that was done to GZ and the US Constitution:

Justice? Ex-Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Says He Was Pressured By City Officials To Arrest George Zimmerman in Death of Trayvon Martin Even Though He Already Cleared Him Of Any Wrongdoing (VIDEO)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/11/justice-ex-sanford-police-chief-bill-lee-says-he-was-pressured-by-city-officials-to-arrest-george-zimmerman-in-death-of-trayvon-martin-even-though-he-already-cleared-him-of-any-wrongdoing/

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So much for the US Constitution, its now about mob rule. So this is how we arrest individuals and administer justice now for a crime in a Banana Republic United States?

Former Sanford, Florida Police Chief Bill Lee told CNN in an interview that he was fired for not arresting George Zimmerman. According to Bill Lee, he was pressured by city officials who cared more about appeasing the public, rather than if George Zimmerman was guilty.  The city officials just wanted an arrest and did not care whether the US Constitution was followed or not.  Lee told the officials you can’t arrest without probable cause, and was fired for upholding Zimmerman’s constitutional rights


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« Reply #851 on: July 11, 2013, 12:47:08 PM »

Was Zimmerman legally parked?
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« Reply #852 on: July 11, 2013, 12:50:52 PM »

July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE
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« Reply #853 on: July 11, 2013, 12:52:38 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59m
Court to recess until 1 p.m., then more argument on 3rd-degree murder lesser. Then state's closing. #ZimmermanTrial

 Kathryn Maher ‏@CmaherMaher 2m
@JeffWeinerOS Nice job with tweeting arguments. Still following:)

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@CmaherMaher Thanks!!
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« Reply #854 on: July 11, 2013, 01:00:16 PM »

This case has made my mind up. If I ever have to kill someone in self defense I am going to dump the body in the swamp.
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« Reply #855 on: July 11, 2013, 01:02:59 PM »

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#GeorgeZimmerman returns to court, #ZimmermanTrial resumes soon. Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #856 on: July 11, 2013, 01:04:22 PM »

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Nelson: Testimony is "you don't have to have any injury" to be in reasonable fear. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

That's incredibly insane to our society.  Anyone anywhere could claim they are in fear and murder someone.  Add in someone who is prone to being in fear and can't keep their head straight and we could see people getting shot all over the damn place then claiming self defense.

This whole thing is so stupid.  You're a grown man and you don't know better than to follow a person you know is a kid on a dark rainy night?  You can't see he's freaked out by you following him?  You don't even bother introducing yourself as neighborhood watch (and there was ample opportunity to do that according to Zimmerman's story)?  Then you're surprised he punches you in the nose???

I have a teenage son and if he were being followed by some man at night I can say it is VERY likely he would punch the dude in the nose and IMO it would be self defense. 

Oy vey... this whole thing is Zimmerman's fault. 
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« Reply #857 on: July 11, 2013, 01:05:16 PM »

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Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman's parents in courtroom. His wife & uncle are also there. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/nH2ADIJj2R

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« Reply #858 on: July 11, 2013, 01:06:30 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE

The fat,ugly ass cow overuled West before she even knew what the objection was about. How's that for disrespect?
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« Reply #859 on: July 11, 2013, 01:07:03 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson: Evidence doesn't support 3rd degree felony murder charge. Jury won't have that option. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Court back in session, Mantei continues arguing for 3rd degree felony murder to go to jury as lesser offense. #ZimmermanTrial

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Video: Don West reacts to state pursuing 3rd-deg. felony murder via child abuse http://bit.ly/1brVWOE  #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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