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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
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The state showed the jury the autopsy photo of Martin and said it was one of the last photos taken of him. #Zimmermanon9
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Quote from: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:34:23 PM
I was thinking about some thing yesterday when they did the "dummy" reenactment of the crime with TM on top and GZ on the bottom ... the State tried to get the witness to say that the gun shot angle could be at 90 degrees with TM leaning back.
However, that is 100% in disagreement with autopsy (gun shot wound, entry, area around wound) and expert testimony of pathologist Vincent Di Maio that the clothing was hanging down. Which could not happen if TM was leaning backward. Look for defense to use that in closing argument to jury.
I can try to find it in a bit, but I thought in the State's opening statement, GZ and TM were in standing position, with GZ shooting TM at close range.
You are correct, but they changed their theory in at the end of the case because it became obvious through witness testimony that TM was on top. They even showed that during the "dummy" reenactment. Not good for State as they now pretty much say that TM was on top.
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July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 1m
Bernie: Opens quietly but he gets loud in a hurry, shows jurors a morgue photo of #Trayvon. Blameless 17-yo dead because of #Zimmerman.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Events leading to #TrayvonMartin shooting began "months before" the shooting. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 7s
He played #Zimmermanon9 's statement that started with talking about the past crimes that led him to start neighborhood watch.
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 2m
The state says #Zimmermanon9 never tried to rescue Martin after Zimmerman says the teenager had beaten him.
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Quote from: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:34:23 PM
I was thinking about some thing yesterday when they did the "dummy" reenactment of the crime with TM on top and GZ on the bottom ... the State tried to get the witness to say that the gun shot angle could be at 90 degrees with TM leaning back.
However, that is 100% in disagreement with autopsy (gun shot wound, entry, area around wound) and expert testimony of pathologist Vincent Di Maio that the clothing was hanging down. Which could not happen if TM was leaning backward. Look for defense to use that in closing argument to jury.
I can try to find it in a bit, but I thought in the State's opening statement, GZ and TM were in standing position, with GZ shooting TM at close range.
You are correct, but they changed their theory in at the end of the case because it became obvious through witness testimony that TM was on top. They even showed that during the "dummy" reenactment. Not good for State as they now pretty much say that TM was on top.
Thank you.
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BDLR: Starting neighborhood watch wasn't anything "sinister... nothing sinister or wrong with that." #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR plays #GeorgeZimmerman interview from night of shooting. GZ: "The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes..." #ZimmermanTrial
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BDLR: #TrayvonMartin "was minding his own business" but #GeorgeZImmerman decided "he was up to no good." #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin went to store, bought Skittles & Arizona drink. "That was his crime." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: But in this case, #GeorgeZimmerman "profiled him as a criminal... and that is what led to his death." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
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I feel bad for the jury, I have a volume control.
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BDLR: #TrayvonMartin doing "a normal everyday thing," walking back from store. Wearing hoodie, "last I heard, that's not against the law."
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I feel bad for the jury, I have a volume control.
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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman pursued, didn't wait "for the police to come & do their job." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman called cops, "then he followed him, he tracked him... in the defendant's mind, this was a criminal." #ZimmermanTrial
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The state says #Zimmermanon9 trapped Martin, even though he said Martin approached his car and Zimmerman never stopped him from running.
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BDLR: "Who was more scared," the "kid" being followed by man in a truck? "That is the person" scared, "I would submit." #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZImmerman decided #TrayvonMartin was a criminal. "That is why we're here," not self-defense. #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman decided that "he was gonna be what he wanted to be, a police officer." But police are trained. #ZimmermanTrial
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Hmm, I have to wonder if the prosecution keeps saying what GZ did was a "good thing" is not a bad thing for the prosecution.
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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "part" of NW, "I would submit he was the Neighborhood Watch." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 1m
E6 is not taking notes now.. After taking notes the entire trial. Others are taking some notes. #Zimmermanon9
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Quote from: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:55:39 PM
Hmm, I have to wonder if the prosecution keeps saying what GZ did was a "good thing" is not a bad thing for the prosecution.
I wondered about that too. But then maybe they're just sneaky, like when they tried to shoehorn the third degree murder/child abuse charge. I'd say he's just winding up, so we need to wait for it. JMHO
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 38s
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman decided "that #TrayvonMartin was a f***ing punk, and he was an asshole... wasn't going to get away this time."
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: "To quote the defendant, and pardon my language, he was one of those assholes who get away... those f***ing punks." #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin unarmed, unless you "would consider Skittles" or tea a weapon. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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Quote from: alagary on July 11, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
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We knew that was coming, right? And GZ said "punks" not punk, meaning the ones that got away, not TM. JMHO
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