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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13  (Read 279812 times)
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« Reply #980 on: July 11, 2013, 03:07:25 PM »

George's story that Trayvon 'somehow' got Zimmerman many yards away from the T intersection is absurd.  I stated that the first time I watched George's reenactment.  At that time I also stated I believe George showed Trayvon he was armed and as a result Trayvon was forced to defend himself.

George's story that he didn't fight back is also ridiculous.  Even the smallest of girls would fight back.  I agree with the prosecutor that there was a struggle that went on prior to witnesses seeing them on the ground.

Trayvon did not just attack George for no reason. 
BBM - and GZ did not attack him for no reason. IF he had planned to just beat TM up or kill him, why call the police?
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« Reply #981 on: July 11, 2013, 03:08:43 PM »

I agree with Schaeffer... Trayvon is not being represented well at all.

I would go further and state the cards have been stacked against this kid from the moment Zimmerman laid eyes on him.  George's knowledge of the law and hunger to be some kind of hero, the piss poor investigation, the media attention, the race issue, the prosecutor, and more has all worked to prevent justice from being served.

I note that George exhibits shame and guilt in his expressions as the prosecutor presents his closing arguments.  IMO George knows what he's done, he knows the death of Trayvon is his fault, and he will have to live with that and answer for it upon his own death.

I am not sure if you can go by how some one looks. Unless one is a sociopath like Casey Anthony or Joran Van der Sloot, being front and center in the defendants chair of a murder case, whether you are innocent or guilty, it is an unnerving and pressuring situation that is beyond imagine. JMHO
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« Reply #982 on: July 11, 2013, 03:09:37 PM »

I agree with Schaeffer... Trayvon is not being represented well at all.

I would go further and state the cards have been stacked against this kid from the moment Zimmerman laid eyes on him.  George's knowledge of the law and hunger to be some kind of hero, the piss poor investigation, the media attention, the race issue, the prosecutor, and more has all worked to prevent justice from being served.

I note that George exhibits shame and guilt in his expressions as the prosecutor presents his closing arguments.  IMO George knows what he's done, he knows the death of Trayvon is his fault, and he will have to live with that and answer for it upon his own death.





I respectfully disagree - GZ is exhibiting shame because taking a life, justified or not, is not a pleasant or desirable thing to most people. It would bother me more if GZ was gloating.
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« Reply #983 on: July 11, 2013, 03:10:26 PM »

Red  Is this the first trial watch on here where it seems most are on the side of the defendant?
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« Reply #984 on: July 11, 2013, 03:13:58 PM »

George's story that Trayvon 'somehow' got Zimmerman many yards away from the T intersection is absurd.  I stated that the first time I watched George's reenactment.  At that time I also stated I believe George showed Trayvon he was armed and as a result Trayvon was forced to defend himself.

George's story that he didn't fight back is also ridiculous.  Even the smallest of girls would fight back.  I agree with the prosecutor that there was a struggle that went on prior to witnesses seeing them on the ground.

Trayvon did not just attack George for no reason. 
BBM - and GZ did not attack him for no reason. IF he had planned to just beat TM up or kill him, why call the police?

He didn't plan it.  He planned to easily detain the 'suspect' until police arrived.  He's an idiot.  IMO.
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« Reply #985 on: July 11, 2013, 03:16:30 PM »

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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "knew that there wasn't any videotaping out there of this," so didn't fall for Serino's ploy. #ZimmermanTrial

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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman was "caught" in multiple lies in his statements/interviews. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

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BDLR: GZ had gun, "wanting to make sure that" #TrayvonMartin "didn't get away." Now, GZ wants to get off because "killed the only witness."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: Dr. Di Maio said you can hit someone & hand's not bruised, "that could also be true for #GeorgeZimmerman's hands." #ZimmermanTrial

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Watch #ZimmermanTrial closings live: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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Court is back in session, jury is being brought back. Bernie de la Rionda to continue state's argument. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #986 on: July 11, 2013, 03:17:30 PM »

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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman said #TrayvonMartin circling car scared him. "If he's really that in fear of him, why does he get out of the car?"

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Jury hears audio of #GeorgeZimmerman saying he didn't know street name, #TrayvonMartin circling his car. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #987 on: July 11, 2013, 03:25:02 PM »

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BDLR: If #GeorgeZimmerman not sure shot hit #TrayvonMartin "what the heck is he doing holstering his gun if he's so scared?" #ZimmermanTrial

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BDLR shows jurors #GeorgeZimmerman's gun & holster. Says hidden holster, small gun. "How did the victim see this in the darkness?"

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BDLR: In #GeorgeZimmerman's account, #TrayvonMartin must've reached for gun with "third hand." Adds: "Does that make sense?" #ZimmermanTrial

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BDLR: #TrayvonMartin "must've had like 10 hands out there, or 10 arms" to do everything #GeorgeZimmerman says he did. #ZimmermanTrial

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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman's "gotta convince the police... that he was just kinda walking & the victim came out of nowhere." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #988 on: July 11, 2013, 03:25:43 PM »

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BDLR: #TrayvonMartin must have had more than two arms if he was beating #ZimmermanOn9 into the ground as well as reaching for the gun.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
O'Mara has objected the closing argument claiming misrepresentation of case law. Nelson will rule at the end of the day. #ZimmermanOn9

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  3m 
Jury taking few notes, but all eyes on state prosecutor. #ZIMMERMANon9.
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
BDLR is replaying the recorded #ZimmermanOn9 statement.  BDLR is claiming the recording shows GZ didn't know street name.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
BDLR: #ZimmermanOn9 killed the only witness - #TrayvonMartin.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
BDLR: If one person is shot dead, and the other person lies - why would that person lie? #ZimmermanOn9

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Back in court.  State is continuing their closing arguments. #ZimmermanOn9
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« Reply #989 on: July 11, 2013, 03:28:19 PM »

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BDLR: (Playing the #ZimmermanOn9 recorded statement to Jury) Why is GZ holstering the gun if he wasn't even sure he shot #TravyonMartin.

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BDLR: How did #TravyonMartin see the gun when it's tucked in, behind #ZimmermanOn9 - in the dark?
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« Reply #990 on: July 11, 2013, 03:28:44 PM »

The Prosecutor’s closing statements appear to be supporting a charge of Manslaughter … not 2nd Degree Murder.

Is the NEW charge of Manslaughter requested by the Prosecution and upheld by the Judiciary all about assuring GZ does not walk? Could it be that this has been the strategy of the Prosecution and Judiciary from the getgo? Think about it. The Defence has put all their resources throughout the trial into defending a 2nd Degree Murder charge rather than a Manslaughter charge … a charge not supported by the Prosecution’s case. What is wrong with this picture?

Could it be that GZ is being framed by the Prosecutor, Judiciary and "higher ups"  to appease the majority within Black community? In other words … race is the issue … not justice.

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Jury can consider manslaughter charge in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 2013


Zimmerman’s lead attorney, Mark O’Mara, told reporters Wednesday after resting his case that the jury’s only option should be the second-degree murder charge brought by prosecutors. If jurors are unable to convict Zimmerman of murder, then he should be acquitted, O’Mara said, because the shooting on Feb. 26, 2012 was intentional

“What George did was an intentional act that he knew he was pulling the trigger, the reason why he did it was self-defense and that doesn’t suggest the manslaughter charge would be appropriate,” O’Mara said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/


Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ‘taken away from us’
Wed July 10, 2013


The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked "in a number of ways" by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial, told CNN's George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

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« Reply #991 on: July 11, 2013, 03:29:16 PM »

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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "claims that he went for the phone," has to explain why #TrayvonMartin overpowered him. #ZimmermanTrial

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BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "profiled a 17-year-old boy that had Skittles." Shows jurors Skittles each time he mentions them. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #992 on: July 11, 2013, 03:29:25 PM »

The prosecutor's style is not effective, IMO. 

And I'm afraid it isn't getting any better.  JMO
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BDLR: No proof #GeorgeZimmerman had broken nose. Physician assistant recommended X-ray, GZ "refused or declined to do that." #ZimmermanTrial

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BDLR: "Was he going for his phone, or was he going for his gun?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #994 on: July 11, 2013, 03:32:11 PM »

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BDLR on #GeorgeZImmerman's statements: "He's trying to make up one lie, after another, after another." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

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BDLR on #GeorgeZimmerman cuts: "How small were they?" Reminds jurors of physician assistant demontrating w/fingers. #ZimmermanTrial
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BDLR on #GeorgeZimmerman account: "of course, this criminal put his hands over my mouth and said 'You're gonna die tonight." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #996 on: July 11, 2013, 03:34:10 PM »

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BDLR: Where are all the scrapes & scratch marks on the jacket?  Why doesn't it show on the jacket #ZimmermanOn9 was wearing?

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BDLR questions - who was following who? #ZimmermanOn9

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BDLR continues to play parts of the recorded #ZimmermanOn9 statement.
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BDLR tells jury that #ZimmermanOn9 made one lie after another after another.

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E6 has 2 notebooks going. Looks as though she's comparing notes. #Zimmermanon9 - @RHughesWFTV
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« Reply #998 on: July 11, 2013, 03:38:44 PM »

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BDLR says #GeorgeZimmerman slipped up, said "When I walked back toward him... I saw him coming at me." #ZimmermanTrial
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BDLR argues that #ZimmermanOn9 is inconsistent in the recorded statement "When I walked back toward him -- I saw him coming toward me"
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