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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #8 7-11-13 -
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July 12, 2013, 11:37:37 AM »
July 12, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 55s
O'Mara: Following somebody is not illegal. "If it was, you would be instructed on it." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 2m
O'Mara: "Put yourself in the mind of what #GeorgeZimmerman was going thru." If he had reasonable fear of great injury "he's not guilty."
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: If "reasonable doubt" on whether GZ justified in using force or not, "you should find #GeorgeZimmerman not guilty." #ZimmermanTrial
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Diana Tennis @TennisLaw
Reasonable doubt about reasonable force is not guilty, State must disprove beyond reasonable doubt, this is point defense needs juror to no
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Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: Following somebody because suspicious and reporting to the police is not against the law. State may suggest.
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Quote from: MuffyBee on July 12, 2013, 11:37:37 AM
July 12, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 55s
O'Mara: Following somebody is not illegal. "If it was, you would be instructed on it." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 2m
O'Mara: "Put yourself in the mind of what #GeorgeZimmerman was going thru." If he had reasonable fear of great injury "he's not guilty."
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: If "reasonable doubt" on whether GZ justified in using force or not, "you should find #GeorgeZimmerman not guilty." #ZimmermanTrial
My bold in blue:
So this is how MOM worked around Judge Nelson not allowing instruction to jury that following someone is illegal.
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July 12, 2013, 11:39:30 AM »
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Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: Why did _I_ have to call Serino to testify Tracey said it wasn't TM, if they are seeking the truth
Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: Why didn't State tell you about all the other robberies at Twin Lakes?
Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: Where was State's expert on defensive use of force? This their case to prove, their burden.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: State "should have" played all 6 #GeorgeZimmerman calls "just to be complete." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #8 7-11-13 -
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Quote from: Red on July 12, 2013, 11:32:02 AM
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Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: You have to leave your natural sympathy for Martin's loss outside of your judgment of guilt, not guilt.
This will be the hard part. Unless someone dies a natural death, we have a tendency to look for who could have saved them or who is responsible. In the case of our loved ones dying, often we even ask ourselves, should I have done more? And in the case of a shooting death, that concept is heightened. This IMO will be the tough part for the jury. Everyone is sorry Martin died. No matter what side of the court room you sit on. The jury has an incredible task before it -- to separate that which comes natural from what they will perceive as the law. It will be a daunting task.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara says it's unhelpful for Prosecutor Guy to shout #GeorgeZImmerman curses at jury: "Listen to the tape, don't listen to Mr. Guy."
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara mentions "fact that I had to call" #TrayvonMartin's father. Defense had use-of-force expert, "Where's their guy?" #ZimmermanTrial
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
O'Mara says it's unhelpful for Prosecutor Guy to shout #GeorgeZImmerman curses at jury: "Listen to the tape, don't listen to Mr. Guy."
Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: Do we need that kind of anger coming from the prosecutors, at the jury? Is that REALLY how GZ said those words?
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Brilliant way to attempt to neuter Guy in his final prosecution argument if he planned to get emotional.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Where's proof GZ "did anything to justify in any form or fashion the onslaught... perpetrated on him by" #TrayvonMartin?
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Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA:That is NOT an unarmed teenager, with nothing but Skittles trying get home.Used dangerous items, fists and concrete.
Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: Claim by State that cement is not a weapon, can't cause great bodily injury is disgusting.
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 52s
The defense again criticized the state for screaming and cursing and exaggerating #Zimmermanon9 's voice.
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 3m
The defense points out that the state did not call Martin's father or a use of force expert though that's their argument. #Zimmermanon9
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara brings out big chunk of concrete. Says it's "disgusting" for state to argue couldn't cause great bodily injury. #ZimmermanTrial
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Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: There WAS anger and hostility and ill-will that night, but GZ was the VICTIM of it.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 43s
O'Mara: "If #TrayvonMartin had been shot through the hip and survived it, what do you think he would've been charged with?" #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: There was anger, ill will, hatred & spite that night, and #GeorgeZimmerman "was the victim of it." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 1m
The defense showed the jury concrete and said the state's claims it's not a weapon and all he had was skittles is disgusting. #Zimmermanon9
WFTV Eyewitness News @WFTV 3m
O'Mara brought out a big piece of cement to demonstrate to the jury that #TrayvonMartin was "not an unarmed teenager." #Zimmermanon9
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Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: SD is a defense to EVERYTHING. Littering, speeding, battery, assault, manslaughter, second degree murder.
Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: Need go no further than conclude that State failed to convince you beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ did not act SD.
Andrew Branca, LOSD2 @LawSelfDefense2
#zimmermantrial O'MARA: You look at all this evidence, and you HAVE TO have a reasonable doubt that GZ acted in SD.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 19s
O'Mara's wrapping up, thanks jurors for time & attention. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara on finding reasonable doubt #GeorgeZImmerman acted in self-defense: "It's an easy decision." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Start deliberations w/whether reasonable doubt on self-defense. "If you reach that conclusion, you get to stop." #ZimmermanTrial
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Quote from: MuffyBee on July 12, 2013, 11:37:37 AM
July 12, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 55s
O'Mara: Following somebody is not illegal. "If it was, you would be instructed on it." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 2m
O'Mara: "Put yourself in the mind of what #GeorgeZimmerman was going thru." If he had reasonable fear of great injury "he's not guilty."
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: If "reasonable doubt" on whether GZ justified in using force or not, "you should find #GeorgeZimmerman not guilty." #ZimmermanTrial
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So this is how MOM worked around Judge Nelson not allowing instruction to jury that following someone is illegal.
BRILLIANT!!!
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 37s
O'Mara asks jurors to find #GeorgeZimmerman not guilty, "let him get back to his life." Done with argument. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin
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#zimmermantrial O'MARA: You're not being asked to decided GZ innocent. You're being asked to decide if State has proved guilt BRD.
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