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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #8 7-11-13 -
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July 12, 2013, 12:57:55 PM »
Guy used between 6-8, maybe 10 times the word child to refer to TM.
Just food for thought as the State has asked us all to use our common sense. Who thinks that Travon Martin would have thought it an insult to refer to him as a child when he was alive?
17 years old is hardly a child. Had he ever committed a crime at that age, he would have been charged as an adult.
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Anticipating backlash from the Black community if GZ is acquitted … anticipating personal risk if GZ is acquitted … could it be that that the jury will render a guilty verdict on the manslaughter charge. Think about it. Judge Nelson will be instructing the jury prior to deliberations … Judge Nelson who appears to be thisclose with the Prosecution.
Zimmerman Jury Will Be Allowed to Consider Lesser Manslaughter Charge
Published: July 11, 2013
In Florida, manslaughter is automatically included as a lesser charge in a second-degree murder case, unless the prosecution asks that it be omitted, and it did not. The defense sought unsuccessfully to strike the lesser offense, hoping to keep pressure on the prosecution to prove murder. …
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/us/zimmerman-jury-will-be-allowed-to-consider-lesser-manslaughter-charge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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A Could it be that the State’s closing statements that did not support a 2nd Degree Murder charge were all about making a case for the manslaughter charge? Could the fall back manslaughter option for the jury to consider have been the State’s strategy from the getgo? In other words ... GZ must not be acquitted!! Until the words "Not Guilty" on both charges on read ... I remain concerned.
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State’s Closing Argument: Two Hours of Raising Doubt
Thursday, July 11, 2013 at 8:10pm
What the jury got was not a compelling narrative of guilt, however, but a rambling monologue of isolated bits of circumstantial evidence, much of which was consistent with–and even supportive of–the defense’s “self-defense” theory of the case.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/states-closing-argument-two-hours-of-raising-doubt/
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If the jury does their job and actually follows the law, there will be an acquittal. However, if the allow their emotions to rule the day, GZ will be convicted of manslaughter. Second degree murder will not be a factor and should never have been allowed to have been charged in the first place. By doing so it enabled the State to do the lesser charge of manslaughter.
I like many after the Casey Anthony case can probably never read or trust a Florida jury.
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George Zimmerman would never have been arrested if it had not been for “higher ups” who were h— bent on appeasing the Black community. Was pressure/intimidation applied to the Prosecution and Judiciary in the GZ trial to assure that there is not an acquittal? Will the Judge's instructions to the jury prior to deliberations reveal a bias?
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Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ‘taken away from us’
Wed July 10, 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/justice/sanford-bill-lee-exclusive/index.htm
‘Justice for Trayvon’: Audio released of DOJ member urging action against George Zimmerman
Thursday, July 11, 2013
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/11/justice-trayvon-audio-released-doj-member-urging-a/
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Quote from: Red on July 12, 2013, 01:08:44 PM
If the jury does their job and actually follows the law, there will be an acquittal. However, if the allow their emotions to rule the day, GZ will be convicted of manslaughter.
I like many after the Casey Anthony case can probably never read or trust a Florida jury.
(Bolded by me) I feel your pain.
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Zimmerman Jury Will Be Allowed to Consider Lesser Manslaughter Charge
Published: July 11, 201
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Manslaughter has a lower threshold for prosecutors to prove and is defined in Florida as the unlawful killing of a human being without malice — including the result of an accident or other act in which the person does not have the mental state to commit a murder.
Though Mr. Zimmerman could receive a sentence of life in prison if he is convicted of murder,
the maximum penalty in Florida for manslaughter with a deadly weapon is 30 years
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Quote from: Red on July 12, 2013, 01:08:44 PM
If the jury does their job and actually follows the law, there will be an acquittal. However, if the allow their emotions to rule the day, GZ will be convicted of manslaughter. Second degree murder will not be a factor and should never have been allowed to have been charged in the first place. By doing so it enabled the State to do the lesser charge of manslaughter.
I like many after the Casey Anthony case can probably never read or trust a Florida jury.
... and the OJ Simpson case. If OJ had been White ... justice would have prevailed. IMO
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Quote from: Red on July 12, 2013, 12:57:55 PM
Guy used between 6-8, maybe 10 times the word child to refer to TM.
Just food for thought as the State has asked us all to use our common sense. Who thinks that Travon Martin would have thought it an insult to refer to him as a child when he was alive?
17 years old is hardly a child. Had he ever committed a crime at that age, he would have been charged as an adult.
EVIDENCE from the cell phone belonging to this 17 year old "CHILD" named Trayvon Martin ... the cell phone with a DOUBLE-PASSWORD APP. The judge denied the request of the Defence to allow this EVIDENCE to be presented to the jury.
Thanks to the Prosecution and the Judicial ... in deliberations the jurors will be left with the impression that TM was an innocent CHILD on his way home following a purchase of Skittles when the encounter with GZ occurred.
Janet
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Breaking – Jury will not get to see Trayvon fighting texts
July 10, 2013 at 9:15 am
The Judge in the Zimmerman trial just ruled that the jury will not get to see numerous text messages on Trayvon Martin’s phone regarding his prowess at fighting, including texts as to how to punch someone in the nose and make them bleed.
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http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/breaking-jury-will-not-get-to-see-trayvon-fighting-texts/
Judge Rules Whether Trayvon’s Alleged Past Drug Use And School Suspension Permitted In Zimmerman Trial
May 28th, 2013
During a pre-trial hearing Tuesday afternoon, a Florida judge ruled that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot use the late Trayvon Martin’s alleged prior marijuana use, school suspension, past fighting, personal text messages or pictures during its opening statement in next month’s high-profile second-degree murder trial.
This comes nearly a week after Zimmerman’s lawyer Mark O’Mara made the cable news rounds, showing off new photographs taken from Martin’s cellphone, including a shot of a marijuana plant and an unidentified hand holding a gun:
O’Mara had also claimed his team had obtained text messages in which Martin talks about organized fighting. “He got mo hits cause in da 1st round. He had me on da ground nd I couldn’t do ntn,” reads one text from November 2011. ….
The judge also ruled that she might allow the fact that a small amount of marijuana was found in Martin’s blood the night of the shooting, but only after hearing from experts about the toxicology tests performed on the late teenager. ….
O’Mara also informed the court that his team had obtained video of three fights, two of which include Martin acting as referee. “There is certainly enough evidence,” he told the judge, “that’s going to suggest Trayvon Martin involved himself ongoingly with fighting with other people.”
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-rules-whether-trayvons-past-drug-use-and-school-suspension-permitted-in-zimmerman-trial/
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
Tuesday, May 29, 2012
More Than a Bag of Skittles - Trayvon Martin and Purple Drank
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Purple Drank or Lean is a cocktail that is created by mixing Robitussin or other over-the-counter cough medicines with, you guessed it, Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Juice, the flavor of tea Trayvon Martin was carrying that night.
Purple Drank also goes by other street names such as sizzurp, lean, syrup, sip sip, drank, barre, purple jelly and Texas tea. It has opiate like effects. Some of its side effects include confusion, agitation, and hallucinations among others.
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http://thekansascitian.blogspot.ca/2012/05/more-than-bag-of-skittles-trayvon.html
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July 12, 2013 Tweets
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Ok, I'm out of Twitter jail (the crime: tweeting too much). For my tweets from the end of John Guy's argument see @OSTrayvonMartin.
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I see your bolded and raise
I like many after the Casey Anthony case can probably never read or trust a Florida jury.
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July 12, 2013 Tweets
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The jury be instructed soon in the #ZimmermanTrial. Read along:
http://bit.ly/18e1XQb
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July 12, 2013 Tweets
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#ZimmermanTrial: Jury to deliberate soon in #TrayvonMartin shooting case | Updated story:
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Nelson's back on the bench, tells gallery no one can leave once she starts instructing. If anyone wants out, now's the time. #ZimmermanTrial
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Judge reads jury instructions. WATCH LIVE:
http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF
| READ the instructions:
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#Zimmermanon9
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.@BillSheafferPA says it could take up to an hour for the judge to read the jury instructions. #Zimmermanon9
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 6m
"@ellacutler: @KBelichWFTV why not 12?" This is not a capital murder case, so only 6 jurors are needed. #Zimmermanon9
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.@monadrose 27 pages! Here are the #Zimmermantrial jury instructions in full:
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"@tre0808: @KBelichWFTV @ryansmithtv if #zimmerman is acquitted can civil action be pursued?" @DanaChaabanWFTV says it can. #Zimmermanon9
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#ZimmermanTrial: Judge to read jury instructions | Watch:
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This is always true MT“@JeffWeinerOS: Nelson back on the bench, tells gallery no one can leave once she starts instructing. #ZimmermanTrial”
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#ZimmermanTrial: Judge Nelson reads "Introduction to Homicide," "Justifiable Homicide" intructions. Read along:
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All jurors are looking directly at the judge as she reads them their instrux. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman.
She shud be done in 10 to 20 minutes.
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=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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