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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #8 7/11/13-7/15/13  (Read 382521 times)
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« Reply #640 on: July 13, 2013, 07:00:47 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on July 13, 2013, 06:40:02 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/breaking-down-charges-and-sentences-zimmerman-faci/nYpC6/

For either conviction, the state must prove Zimmerman is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Second-Degree Murder

    The state must prove Zimmerman killed Martin and it was an intentional killing that was not premeditated or planned.
    If Zimmerman convicted of second-degree murder, he will face up to life in prison.
    If the 10-20-Life Law is taken into consideration, a second-degree murder conviction means Zimmerman will have to serve a minimum 25 years in prison.

Manslaughter

    The state must prove Zimmerman committed an act that caused death.
    If Zimmerman is convicted of manslaughter with a firearm, he could be sentenced to a maximum of 30 years in prison.
    Under the 10-20-Life Law, a manslaughter conviction means Zimmerman will have to serve a minimum of 25 years in prison and face a maximum of life in prison.
 

YUP. This is why a jury is not supposed to do a compromise verdict. Sometimes the compromise carries just as long a sentence as the first charge.

It is also why I feel that the State should not be allowed to over charge a case, because they know they can fall back on the lesser charges. Not just for this case, but any case. If the State cannot prove a case, they should not be able to charge it. JMO.
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« Reply #641 on: July 13, 2013, 07:02:57 PM »
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Nelson: Lawyers are on standby for 15 minutes while in recess, to wait for the jurors reply to their response to question. #ZimmermanTrial

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@JeffWeinerOS Will they make the jury's clarifying question public?

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@OCCUPYTWITTA It will be read in the courtroom.
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« Reply #642 on: July 13, 2013, 07:03:34 PM »
might be a hung jury...
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« Reply #643 on: July 13, 2013, 07:08:04 PM »
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Attorneys are officially loitering in the c-room, waiting to see if jurors send out a new note. Pins and needles. Pins and needles.
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« Reply #644 on: July 13, 2013, 07:08:55 PM »
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Nelson: Jurors have ordered dinner. Apparently working late tonight. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

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@JeffWeinerOS Any word on what they are allowed to order: Chinese takeout, pizza? Or is it hospital/court food from cafeteria?

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@RLM_3 No, unfortunately they're not telling us.
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@JeffWeinerOS Thanks!
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« Reply #645 on: July 13, 2013, 07:13:38 PM »
Quote from: cookie on July 13, 2013, 07:03:34 PM
might be a hung jury...

 
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« Reply #646 on: July 13, 2013, 07:14:22 PM »
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@himynamescorey Jury can go as late as they want. Ordering food in could mean they're close, could mean they're just hungry.
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« Reply #647 on: July 13, 2013, 07:20:53 PM »
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Attorneys given hour break, jurors' dinner has arrived. Still no reply regarding what they want to know about manslaughter. #ZimmermanTrial

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Jurors' dinner is here. Judge gives atty's an hour dinner break. #Zimmerman, #Trayvon.
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Judge sends word thru deputy the jurors food is here. They are taking an hour recess for dinner. Court is in recess. #Zimmerman
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@misswhatalife He self-identifies as Hispanic, as far as I know. I've never seen/heard him use white Hispanic.
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« Reply #648 on: July 13, 2013, 07:22:59 PM »
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The jurors' meals are here. Court is in recess for an hour. #Zimmermanon9
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« Reply #649 on: July 13, 2013, 07:24:39 PM »
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Sign up for @orlandosentinel alerts to find out the moment we have a verdict on #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin http://www.orlandosentinel.com/about/mobile/
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@CliffLeFou We don't know what they're eating, unfortunately. Probably had something delivered.
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« Reply #650 on: July 13, 2013, 07:25:56 PM »
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Attorneys given hour break, jurors' dinner has arrived. Still no reply regarding what they want to know about manslaughter. #ZimmermanTrial

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@JeffWeinerOS Jeff is 'the bomb' tweeter! I follow him very closely. Good non-bias analyst too. We love Jeff here in the 'D'! SMILES #Fox35

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@PamDetMI Thanks!!
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« Reply #651 on: July 13, 2013, 07:31:45 PM »
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Don't know yet. It's up to them. RT @jakihix: @JeffWeinerOS if they don't come up with a verdict today.....do they work on it on sunday?
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« Reply #652 on: July 13, 2013, 07:33:51 PM »
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Don't know yet. It's up to them. RT @jakihix: @JeffWeinerOS if they don't come up with a verdict today.....do they work on it on sunday?

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@JeffWeinerOS - is everyone on brk til 815? Thank u

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@seemaiyeresq About 8:15 p.m., yes.

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I was watching, thanks!! RT @SonniAbatta: Just gave on-air shoutout to @JeffWeinerOS -- "the man" for all #Zimmerman coverage!  #Fox35
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« Reply #653 on: July 13, 2013, 07:39:34 PM »
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/what-happens-if-jury-cannot-reach-verdict-george-z/nYp2d/

Posted: 5:08 p.m. Saturday, July 13, 2013

What happens if the jury cannot reach a verdict in George Zimmerman trial?

SANFORD, Fla. —

If the jury deliberating in George Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial tells Judge Debra Nelson it cannot reach a verdict, she will read them an Allen Charge.

What's an Allen Charge? An Allen Charge is a strongly worded reminder given by a judge to a jury that is hung or divided, and it can only be read once during deliberations.

Ultimately, the jury decides how long it will continue deliberations. If jurors still cannot reach a verdict, Nelson will declare a mistrial and the state will be free to try the case with a new jury.
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« Reply #654 on: July 13, 2013, 07:44:05 PM »
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. @DoctorKnow007 Cost of Zimmerman's legal defense likely approaching $1 million.
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« Reply #655 on: July 13, 2013, 07:55:57 PM »
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@garrettjurss They'll decide when to stop. No definite cutoff.
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« Reply #656 on: July 13, 2013, 08:00:48 PM »
Quote from: Red on July 13, 2013, 07:00:47 PM


YUP. This is why a jury is not supposed to do a compromise verdict. Sometimes the compromise carries just as long a sentence as the first charge.

It is also why I feel that the State should not be allowed to over charge a case, because they know they can fall back on the lesser charges. Not just for this case, but any case. If the State cannot prove a case, they should not be able to charge it. JMO.


Defence Attorney Mark O’Mara concurs!!

Judge allows jury to consider manslaughter in Zimmerman case
1:22 PM 07/11/2013

SANFORD, Fla. – Judge Debra Nelson ruled Thursday that the jury in the George Zimmerman trial will have the option to convict Zimmerman of manslaughter for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, but that they won’t be able to consider third-degree murder.

The highest charge against Zimmerman is second-degree murder. Under Florida law, that charge is an unlawful killing which “evinces a depraved mind regardless of human life.”

Zimmerman’s defense said they only wanted the jury to consider the initial second-degree charge. “We don’t want a compromise verdict, just like we don’t want a jury pardon,” said Zimmerman attorney Mark O’Mara on Wednesday. “We want a verdict based on the facts of the law and that’s an acquittal.”

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http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/11/judge-allows-jury-to-consider-manslaughter-in-zimmerman-case/
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« Reply #657 on: July 13, 2013, 08:09:47 PM »
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The lawyers' hour break is almost over. Could hear the jurors more-specific manslaughter question shortly. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #658 on: July 13, 2013, 08:18:22 PM »
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@misswhatalife No pressure? That's some pressure right there. Will do my best. : )

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@RebeccaTjon I'm in the Orlando Sentinel newsroom. @ReneStutzman's our reporter in court.

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@AndrewGibson27 Not yet, but might be on our site later. Sometimes they get posted, sometimes not.
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« Reply #659 on: July 13, 2013, 08:24:00 PM »
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@Barry_Russell We were waiting to see if they were coming back with question, but they got their meal instead. #Zimmermanon9 #VerdictWatch
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