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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -  (Read 716491 times)
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #1060 on: August 22, 2017, 07:12:31 PM »


Well, at least another year has gone by and some interest arises that brings Natalee's name back into public view so I guess that is good.

You know what I just abhor is Bull pucky. Mendacity and Bull pucky.
Good to be able to see that Natalee's supporters are still faithful.
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Hi Kermit!  

The peace this could give would be amazing, there's nothing I want more for Natalee's family.

But yeah it feels like double rainbows and dolphins and lies, again.  

I hope I'm wrong.

We'll be here, waiting and hoping Joran is as uncomfortable as we want him to be in his cell at Challapalca.

Justice for Natalee!  

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1061 on: August 22, 2017, 07:39:15 PM »

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D264QVO8GA8

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John's Crazy adventures

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Joran van der sloot and John ludwick special love confession How they both had sex with each other
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1062 on: August 22, 2017, 08:17:44 PM »

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D264QVO8GA8

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Joran van der sloot and John ludwick special love confession How they both had sex with each other

Disgusting is all I can say. (the above quote).

I can see why Dave chose now to do the movie.  Maybe it has been confirmed it is Natalee's bones.  Maybe not.  But one thing is for sure-in order to continue the search and investigation you have to have money to do it.  Doing the show now would allow more money to continue the search.  It also allows money to have DNA tests done.  I can assure you Aruba is not paying for any of this.

Hi Kermit  
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« Reply #1063 on: August 22, 2017, 09:07:13 PM »

I'm lurking, but it has been crazy at work and traveling constantly. I haven't seen any episodes yet, so I'm counting on everyone's comments. Seeing more and more old faces and names is heartwarming!
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« Reply #1064 on: August 22, 2017, 10:38:51 PM »

IMO: John Ludwick is full of and crazy as batchit

Tribute for Joran Der Sloot from John Ludwick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIIWZibVRjo
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« Reply #1065 on: August 22, 2017, 11:50:34 PM »

Well, at least another year has gone by and some interest arises that brings Natalee's name back into public view so I guess that is good.

You know what I just abhor is Bull pucky. Mendacity and Bull pucky.
Good to be able to see that Natalee's supporters are still faithful.
Love to you all




So nice to hear from you, Kermit. Hope all is well in your world. 


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« Reply #1066 on: August 23, 2017, 12:19:55 AM »

The Persistence, the trap, and the complicity of the Americans.....


 
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« Reply #1067 on: August 23, 2017, 12:21:15 AM »

The Persistence, the trap, and the complicity of the Americans.....


 

The deception by so many
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« Reply #1068 on: August 23, 2017, 12:27:24 AM »

The Persistence, the trap, and the complicity of the Americans.....


 

The deception by so many

A girl who was celebrating the beginning of the rest of her life, before it was snatched by Urine, Deepak, Satish, Paulus, and the rest of the evil that permeates that rock called Aruba.....Your time will come....TICK! TOCK! TICK! TOCK!

Time caught up to Paulus and Urine...

Who's next???

 
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« Reply #1069 on: August 23, 2017, 08:58:22 AM »

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D264QVO8GA8

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Joran van der sloot and John ludwick special love confession How they both had sex with each other

Disgusting is all I can say. (the above quote).

I can see why Dave chose now to do the movie.  Maybe it has been confirmed it is Natalee's bones.  Maybe not.  But one thing is for sure-in order to continue the search and investigation you have to have money to do it.  Doing the show now would allow more money to continue the search.  It also allows money to have DNA tests done.  I can assure you Aruba is not paying for any of this.

Hi Kermit  

Why does Dave get paid for filming his story on oxygen?
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« Reply #1070 on: August 23, 2017, 11:25:28 AM »

Do we still have that aruba bay video 24 2005 body in the bag Klass
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« Reply #1071 on: August 23, 2017, 05:03:00 PM »

Well, at least another year has gone by and some interest arises that brings Natalee's name back into public view so I guess that is good.

You know what I just abhor is Bull pucky. Mendacity and Bull pucky.
Good to be able to see that Natalee's supporters are still faithful.
Love to you all




Kermie!
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Hi all. Checking in every day while this latest blip is dinging.
 
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Why did they have to disappear her body?

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« Reply #1072 on: August 23, 2017, 06:53:05 PM »

msmarple, go to the top or bottom of the page where the page numbers are and "reply" is there to click on and make a new post.
Reply is to the right of the last page number on my screen.

Glad you're checking in!     

I've noticed more in the bleachers too.  Come on down and say HI if you're a member!

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted.   

I know one of my favorite monkeys has a birthday tomorrow iirc! 

Justice for Natalee!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1073 on: August 23, 2017, 07:35:56 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/AshleighBanfield/videos/10155594905414757/?hc_ref=ARRGQkPMAYjZxv-r5Zri2jrBRPm9a6lZoVMb1TfjkQJK9-L9zWW0gXfMQFoi6xndb-4&pnref=story
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« Reply #1074 on: August 23, 2017, 08:01:01 PM »

I'm lurking, but it has been crazy at work and traveling constantly. I haven't seen any episodes yet, so I'm counting on everyone's comments. Seeing more and more old faces and names is heartwarming!

Hi wreck!   
Hopefully others will chime in and fill you in more.
A few things did stand out to me without going back and watching again.  Dead Paulus is thrown completely under the bus for disappearing the body etc., but (living breathing litigious) Kalpoes are completely cleared other than dropping Joran and Natalee off; that is if you believe what Gabriel says John says Joran said...  This is the previously unknown to the public tidbit that Dave said he learned from a Kalpoe attorney in 2005, and Gabriel said John knew too:  They were dropped off on the road by the Marriott that goes down to Moomba Beach, not the road by the fisherman's huts as has always been reported. 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1075 on: August 23, 2017, 08:26:48 PM »

thanks texasmom for 'splainin' to me how to post - it has been so long, I had forgotten !!!
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« Reply #1076 on: August 23, 2017, 08:44:26 PM »


Thanks Blonde!

Valid points in the video. 

I've had the same question in my mind as the whether the location the remains were gathered is the same location they told the Aruban authorities about?

My understanding so far is that there is the original burial site, and then the site where the souvenir was buried.

If it's Natalee, and the family gets peace in knowing, the end justifies the means. 

Aruba hasn't been known to be fair or honest in previous finds.  Who was in the fish trap, Aruba?!!!

But putting us through six episodes to find out, is cruel and unusual treatment.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1077 on: August 23, 2017, 08:45:20 PM »

thanks texasmom for 'splainin' to me how to post - it has been so long, I had forgotten !!!


You're welcome, glad I could help!   

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1078 on: August 23, 2017, 09:00:26 PM »

 

I sure do hope this ends with Natalee's remains, or at least a part of her, so her family can bury her properly and end all this agonizing uncertainty. So far..after the first and second parts, I am intrigued and hopeful!! If this is a hoax, I hope sincerely that the guilty ones can be held accountable. I fear that they are being fed another lie. I so want to believe this is HER and it will be horrible if it is not. Since I am just a watching member of society, it will not be as bad for me as it will be for the family. I cannot imagine being in their shoes!!!

So..a Question...IF this IS HER REMAINS, can that be used at all when van der sloot is sent here for the extortion charges? I get that aruba says if it is human remains, it is tampering with evidence...I would not care..since it seems like they (aruba) never intended her to be found. At least, they can lay her soul to rest.   Jammsnana
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« Reply #1079 on: August 23, 2017, 09:45:53 PM »



I sure do hope this ends with Natalee's remains, or at least a part of her, so her family can bury her properly and end all this agonizing uncertainty. So far..after the first and second parts, I am intrigued and hopeful!! If this is a hoax, I hope sincerely that the guilty ones can be held accountable. I fear that they are being fed another lie. I so want to believe this is HER and it will be horrible if it is not. Since I am just a watching member of society, it will not be as bad for me as it will be for the family. I cannot imagine being in their shoes!!!

So..a Question...IF this IS HER REMAINS, can that be used at all when van der sloot is sent here for the extortion charges? I get that aruba says if it is human remains, it is tampering with evidence...I would not care..since it seems like they (aruba) never intended her to be found. At least, they can lay her soul to rest.   Jammsnana
Yes, this appears as if they have given up on hoping to gather evidence for prosecution - they are excluding Aruban authorities. This is for answers and closure for the family.
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