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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #1140 on: August 27, 2017, 01:48:34 PM »


https://www.facebook.com/greta/photos/a.162242790457256.36266.158671177481084/1122544001093792



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1141 on: August 27, 2017, 01:49:48 PM »

Gabe coming clean about past bad deeds in the fb vid
guess get it out there b4 the press does
guess he is in fl he used the word causeway
some flashes of the background looks fl.

Heard him say we're calling him a scumbag too.   Monkey Devil!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1142 on: August 27, 2017, 01:50:03 PM »

scroll down Gabe has more vids
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/teamgabe?source=feed_text&story_id=1929525480592322
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« Reply #1143 on: August 27, 2017, 02:02:02 PM »

here are a few from the link
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/teamgabe?source=feed_text&story_id=1929525480592322

Gabriel Madrigal
August 25 at 6:03pm
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1928862220658648/
Gabriel Madrigal
17 hrs
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1929272470617623/
Gabriel Madrigal
Yesterday at 9:06am
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1929126523965551/
Gabriel Madrigal
August 23 at 6:01pm
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1927917140753156/
Gabriel Madrigal
August 24 at 4:02pm
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1928471064031097/


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« Reply #1144 on: August 27, 2017, 02:18:07 PM »

Gabe is a lot to take in   

sure hope the remains are Natalee, or at least someones loved one
closure is important, Gabe seems sincere in what he did/doing
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« Reply #1145 on: August 27, 2017, 02:19:49 PM »

Thanks for the links cw618!  

I'd questioned whether he was a professional poker player, he said that's what he was doing for a living when he met John in 2013.

He said the media's not talking to him because he's not a professional like TJ,
and also because he's Latino.  wth?  

He's the one that keeps saying "never trust a mexican".  If that's the reason the media won't talk to him, maybe they looked at his social media first?  

My guess, it has more to do with his criminal history.  I think he knows that too, he talked about it all in his live video today.




  
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1146 on: August 27, 2017, 02:43:16 PM »

if im understanding him, at around 22min he says, he has vid of talking to the
aruba LE, about the bones
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1929525480592322/

ya put the crim history out there,1st b4 press,now the press has
nothing to talk to him about,all the doc stuff Gabe cant talk about
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« Reply #1147 on: August 27, 2017, 02:46:23 PM »

YW
im going to have to watch the vids at least 3x
to get all the little stuff, he seems to throw in
now and again
id watch his doc if he does one with all his videos
he did with john,aruba ect.
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« Reply #1148 on: August 27, 2017, 02:48:42 PM »

Gabe is a lot to take in   

sure hope the remains are Natalee, or at least someones loved one
closure is important, Gabe seems sincere in what he did/doing

Yes, he is.   

He does seem sincere.  And if he is, I'm sorry he was trusting of Dave and TJ and didn't take the steps he should have to ensure the compensation and/or recognition he obviously is demanding with all of this outcry 2 episodes in.  I don't know what he expects to be called other than an informant?

Google dictionary:

in·form·ant
inˈfôrmənt/Submit
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a person who gives information to another.
another term for informer.

If his description of how it all went down is true, there will always be a question in my mind even if it is Natalee.
According to Gabe, John flaked out on the trip to Aruba in March with TJ, Dave, and the film crew.  They'd all thrown in the towel.  So him and John went to Aruba alone at the end of April dug up the bones and after calling Dave, who called TJ, and Gabe says TJ told Dolph Richardson to arrest him, gave the bones to Dolph Richardson.
So here we are again, all of the evidence turned over to the Aruban authorities who continue to claim they are animal bones.
He says Dolph Richardson gave the bones to TJ and/or Dave two months later.
And here we are with human remains, and no trustworthy chain of possession, so we'll probably never know where they really came from.

He obviously hasn't spent much time here if he expected us to just trust he was for real. 

We question everything, that's our job.   

Justice for Natalee!   



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1149 on: August 27, 2017, 03:02:52 PM »

poker dont know,he isnt listed in TOP WINNERS IN FLORIDA CASINOS
for lifetime tab, later ill look around more for poker player Gabe
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-leaderboards/states/fl
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« Reply #1150 on: August 27, 2017, 03:06:11 PM »

hmmm not an informant or LE detective or PI
fb him and ask what he wants to be considered
during that investigation   
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« Reply #1151 on: August 27, 2017, 03:11:18 PM »

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If his description of how it all went down is true, there will always be a question in my mind even if it is Natalee.

he says he has vid of it all, and its or most of it isnt in the doc
guess thats his insurance for the truth, but cant see a conviction
coming only closure
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« Reply #1152 on: August 27, 2017, 03:25:24 PM »

i think this is Gabe,and prob told truth about cailf.
i cant remember the date he gave, this Gabe is 39
in 2010. bottom of the 5th column left to right

Gabriel Madrigal, 39
Venice gondolier sun ( February 3, 2010 )
http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00028295/00745/6?search=gabriel

if you want to look for more on Gabe
ALL VOLUMES
http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00028295/00745/allvolumes?search=gabriel
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« Reply #1153 on: August 27, 2017, 03:56:44 PM »

Edited the f word

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1929109713967232&id=100006046668726&comment_id=1929159823962221&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R8%22%7D

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John Ludwick My conscience? A conscience is not part of the human anatomy. No not even close. And TJ f***ed up the bone evidence and any prior evidence is long gone so that answers the question of why i am not worried...Her blood is not on my hands, i washed them. LMFAO
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1154 on: August 27, 2017, 06:16:17 PM »

hmmm not an informant or LE detective or PI
fb him and ask what he wants to be considered
during that investigation   

Undercover. He fancies himself an undercover operative. Problem is, he lacks a "Smiley" - the person running the operation, paying him, etc.
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« Reply #1155 on: August 27, 2017, 06:47:28 PM »

Gabe is a lot to take in   

sure hope the remains are Natalee, or at least someones loved one
closure is important, Gabe seems sincere in what he did/doing

Yes, he is.   

He does seem sincere.  And if he is, I'm sorry he was trusting of Dave and TJ and didn't take the steps he should have to ensure the compensation and/or recognition he obviously is demanding with all of this outcry 2 episodes in.  I don't know what he expects to be called other than an informant?

Google dictionary:

in·form·ant
inˈfôrmənt/Submit
noun
a person who gives information to another.
another term for informer.

If his description of how it all went down is true, there will always be a question in my mind even if it is Natalee.
According to Gabe, John flaked out on the trip to Aruba in March with TJ, Dave, and the film crew.  They'd all thrown in the towel.  So him and John went to Aruba alone at the end of April dug up the bones and after calling Dave, who called TJ, and Gabe says TJ told Dolph Richardson to arrest him, gave the bones to Dolph Richardson.
So here we are again, all of the evidence turned over to the Aruban authorities who continue to claim they are animal bones.
He says Dolph Richardson gave the bones to TJ and/or Dave two months later.
And here we are with human remains, and no trustworthy chain of possession, so we'll probably never know where they really came from.

He obviously hasn't spent much time here if he expected us to just trust he was for real. 

We question everything, that's our job.   

Justice for Natalee!   

 So him and John went to Aruba alone at the end of April dug up the bones and after calling Dave, who called TJ, and Gabe says TJ told Dolph Richardson to arrest him, gave the bones to Dolph Richardson.YIKES
So here we are again, all of the evidence turned over to the Aruban authorities who continue to claim they are animal bones.

He says Dolph Richardson gave the bones to TJ and/or Dave two months later. Who's bones we can't trust ARUBA maybe Gabe didn't know this

And here we are with human remains, and no trustworthy chain of possession, so we'll probably never know where they really came from.

My Head is spinning  why would TJ do this Gabe WTF
Gabe is sincere he just doesn't know how aruba  works they must have a box of human bones they could have giving back any other person bones that meets Natalee's description  with all the dead bodies over there  they could be anyone's
 Now I'm sad 
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« Reply #1156 on: August 28, 2017, 07:03:55 AM »

DNA results will be back late this week. Maybe we'll hear something by the end of the week.

I asked if it's Natalee - TJ said who else could it be. I replied Robyn Gardner. Could also be someone else who is missing - and there could be many that fit that category.

Still, not getting my hopes up too high just yet.
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« Reply #1157 on: August 28, 2017, 08:55:16 AM »

DNA results will be back late this week. Maybe we'll hear something by the end of the week.

I asked if it's Natalee - TJ said who else could it be. I replied Robyn Gardner. Could also be someone else who is missing - and there could be many that fit that category.

Still, not getting my hopes up too high just yet.

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« Reply #1158 on: August 28, 2017, 09:04:50 AM »

O/T - I hear flooding in Dickenson TX is pretty bad, isn't that where Texas Equusearch is located?  Prayers to all in the path of the storms and flooding!
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« Reply #1159 on: August 28, 2017, 12:31:19 PM »

O/T - I hear flooding in Dickenson TX is pretty bad, isn't that where Texas Equusearch is located?  Prayers to all in the path of the storms and flooding!

Yes, I think that's where the office is.

Tim lives in the Houston area, house flooded earlier this year, it's probably worse with Harvey.   

http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/bayarea/news/article/Texas-EquuSearch-founder-Tim-Miller-s-home-hit-by-11080766.php

http://www.khou.com/news/community/volunteers-clean-up-damage-to-equusearch-founders-home/432551016
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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