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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -  (Read 1618319 times)
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« Reply #1460 on: October 02, 2017, 08:11:37 PM »

#TEAMGABE join me tonight let’s debunk
with solid proof  not made up stuff like she claims
Gabe is talking shit about me I guess he's mad about the passport proof
That John L could have been in Aruba in 2005


I will call the FBI if he slanders me I have friends that email me info..
I just sent him a text showing him I know what he's going to do NO RESPONCE
  Actually I'm going to call the FBI I think he's dangerous especially the fact that he has been arrested before and has a record..

Also I have pictures to share of the last episode of oxygen Series 6 but I can't get them to you because I don't have any way to do that I wish this site was made different
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« Reply #1461 on: October 02, 2017, 10:14:52 PM »

Gabe believes John, cant be any other way, hard to sell a book or?
if John was there in 2005, that sets Johns knowing of crime and him
pos making up chit 4sale, cant have that Gabe stuff wont sell
 
johns age is?, im thinking 30/31, maybe 35
anyway 30-12 = 18, so John was 18 or older in 2005

guess we will see 10/6/17, im thinking results will be inconclusive

edit forgot: human bones John, WTH
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« Reply #1462 on: October 02, 2017, 10:25:50 PM »

Gabe believes John, cant be any other way, hard to sell a book or?
if John was there in 2005, that sets Johns knowing of crime and him
pos making up chit 4sale, cant have that Gabe stuff wont sell
 
johns age is?, im thinking 30/31, maybe 35
anyway 30-12 = 18, so John was 18 or older in 2005

guess we will see 10/6/17, im thinking results will be inconclusive

edit forgot: human bones John, WTH
John says on record  in his video that he has been going to Aruba in and out of his life for years now and sometimes he overstayed his Visa so he could very well have been there and help Jordan to get rid of the body

Do you think this is why he's threatened me I have no problem calling the FBI tomorrow morning if I find out that he slandered me tonight because I do have friends in  places that will tell me what he post

How does he think that I got the screenshot that I got it was sent to me I know you guys get mad at me but sometimes people send me stuff and I can't say who it's from or I won't get the information
I'm on my phone now but when I get on my laptop I will give you the exact age of John I think he's not much older than Jordan

You're a very smart woman sometimes I get too close to the case and I can't see things that are very clear you're right lies won't sell can't make a book on a bunch of Lies let's just see what happens with the bones I do have pictures but I don't know how to post them Moto buckets not working I may email them all to klassen sorry talk text doesn't know how to say your name thank you so much kisses
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« Reply #1463 on: October 03, 2017, 06:33:21 AM »

I don't know how to get the link here
 I'm on my phone it's been confirmed I oxygen that the bones are not Natalee Holloway
I repeat are not Natalees Holloway
This information was emailed to me and it's from oxygen.com
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« Reply #1464 on: October 03, 2017, 06:36:44 AM »

I emailed the link to Klassen
 with the time difference she's still sleeping
Words cannot describe what's going through my mind right now was this a scam right from the start just like most of you thought.
I did have hopes all shattered now oxygen.com confirm this
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« Reply #1465 on: October 03, 2017, 06:41:58 AM »

 
http://people.com/crime/skeletal-remains-not-natalee-holloway/

Is this accurate or still more time needed?
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« Reply #1466 on: October 03, 2017, 07:28:21 AM »

I don't know how to get the link here
 I'm on my phone it's been confirmed I oxygen that the bones are not Natalee Holloway
I repeat are not Natalees Holloway
This information was emailed to me and it's from oxygen.com

Do you still want me to post the images you emailed?  I can't say I'm surprised that the bones were not Natalee.  This Oxygen series has been nothing more than yet another attempt to make money off Natalee's murder.
 
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« Reply #1467 on: October 03, 2017, 09:24:42 AM »

HUMAN BONE FRAGMENTS FOUND IN ARUBA DO NOT BELONG TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY
by MATT MURO   OCTOBER 2, 2017 • 9:41 PM ET
The Holloways have been looking for closure ever since Natalee disappeared 17 years ago in Aruba.

http://www.oxygen.com/the-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway/blogs/human-bone-fragments-found-in-aruba-do-not-belong-to
 

Sad but not surprised  given the sorse
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« Reply #1468 on: October 03, 2017, 09:29:47 AM »

I don't know how to get the link here
 I'm on my phone it's been confirmed I oxygen that the bones are not Natalee Holloway
I repeat are not Natalees Holloway
This information was emailed to me and it's from oxygen.com

Do you still want me to post the images you emailed?  I can't say I'm surprised that the bones were not Natalee.  This Oxygen series has been nothing more than yet another attempt to make money off Natalee's murder.
 

klaasend what are your thoughts about the photos?
 It would show how low some people would go to cash in on the Holloway's 
 maybe a few  you can pick 

What a scam you guys called it right from the start I just wanted to believe but I was wrong too
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« Reply #1469 on: October 03, 2017, 11:38:06 AM »

Dave Holloway,


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« Reply #1470 on: October 03, 2017, 11:38:46 AM »

John ludwick: a human bone, you creepy chit head WTH
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« Reply #1471 on: October 03, 2017, 12:51:52 PM »

Ok — did anyone watch the series last night?

I did, but was left feeling the same way as I have about the others.  Disgusted.  The bones that are being tested were hidden in a baggie at the bottom of a stone wall somewhere.  That's what Gabe and John supposedly "recovered" when they went back to Aruba by themselves and turned over to Dolph Richardson.  The tests with Beth's mitochondrial DNA didn't show a conclusive match but the forensics guy said he couldn't rule it out either, so they are doing more test from each bone. (I thought they'd previously said the mitochondrial testing would deplete the samples, but maybe I heard wrong.)  They should know the next results by October 6.  There's a segment at the end with Robin and Dave that confirmed my thought that he didn't do this for money for further searches.  Robin's ready for them to stop searching and move on with their lives, so I'm thinking more on the lines that college and sororities are expensive and Natalee has helped them out with that.  Dave said Natalee would say he's done enough.  TJ looked like he'd dyed his eyebrows and mustache for this one.  Good grief.  smh

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I will never doubt your opinion again
I have to admit at first thought it was Natalee
 Then the signs starting with John killing himself scam
Need more money to get to Aruba fast scam
If John dies they we'll never find the bones scam
 So sad for Natalees Family
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« Reply #1472 on: October 03, 2017, 01:30:41 PM »

#TeamNataleeHolloway&StephanyFlores

When Beth gets serious about a lead, I'll get serious. Otherwise, I refuse to feed the beast...

I'm careful to not propagate "suspect" information, from "suspect" individuals that continue to shine the light on themselves and potentially make blood money off of Natalee. We have all been witness to the misinformation and should approach information accordingly. Just my opinion, but what do I know?
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« Reply #1473 on: October 03, 2017, 02:16:40 PM »

 You are correct Beth didn't do anything because she knew in her heart it was a scam



The poor Holloways so sad
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« Reply #1474 on: October 03, 2017, 04:09:12 PM »

I don't know how to get the link here
 I'm on my phone it's been confirmed I oxygen that the bones are not Natalee Holloway
I repeat are not Natalees Holloway
This information was emailed to me and it's from oxygen.com

Do you still want me to post the images you emailed?  I can't say I'm surprised that the bones were not Natalee.  This Oxygen series has been nothing more than yet another attempt to make money off Natalee's murder.
 

klaasend what are your thoughts about the photos?
 It would show how low some people would go to cash in on the Holloway's 
 maybe a few  you can pick 

What a scam you guys called it right from the start I just wanted to believe but I was wrong too

The screen captures you sent me aren't clear enough to determine.  That said, I posted the supposed bones that was posted on the Oxygen website.  They look like bones but not being an expert, I could not know if human or animal and of course, would not know who's they were. 

This entire show was a scam and I'm so sorry Dave had to get sucked into it.
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« Reply #1475 on: October 03, 2017, 05:07:00 PM »


Link to the bone fragments
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« Reply #1476 on: October 03, 2017, 08:20:45 PM »

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« Reply #968 on: August 28, 2011, 03:44:47 AM »
If you've never seen inside the Alto Vista Chapel, this link has a cool 360 degree feature (on the right side of the page) that lets you look inside it.  If you click on it after it starts, the picture will go to full screen.
http://www.aruba-travelguide.com/discover/attractions-and-sights/Alto-Vista-Chapel.html
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=vsmloadvps586sfnub4itce3u1&topic=9791.msg1465150#msg1465150


August 22, 2011 2:36 PM
Aruba launches new search for missing woman Robyn Gardner
I think that would be in the area of the Alto Vista Chapel, Natural Bridge...etc?
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=vsmloadvps586sfnub4itce3u1&topic=11942.msg1463708#msg1463708


This is from Beth when she wrote about going to
the Chapel:

"The sun is up as I reach the top of the hill to see the Alto Vista chapel.  When I step onto the chapel grounds I am free"

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=vsmloadvps586sfnub4itce3u1&topic=9630.msg1330303#msg1330303



THIS REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION:
Early the next morning as he was arriving to the location on the same road as the Alto Vista Chapel he ran into Paul Van Der Sloot in his jeep who he made direct eye contact with.  It has always bothered me as I wondered what was PVDS doing up so early in the morning in that location.
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=vsmloadvps586sfnub4itce3u1&topic=2050.msg270532#msg270532





This is all very interesting and worth looking into, I think.
I just remembered something from way back at the beginning -
hidden in plain view! Plus, why would Paulus be out in that area?
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« Reply #1477 on: October 03, 2017, 08:25:14 PM »

You are correct Beth didn't do anything because she knew in her heart it was a scam

I was told by a friend that he bashed me bad last night in #Gabsway everyone was making fun of me calling his pictures BS
I said NO way these are Natalee this is a scam
I was attacked by him and slandered I have saved PM from all of his lies starting with he used 300,000 of his money to fund this then it went up to 400,00 at this point the flag went up.
The attempted fake suicide to get $$$ to go back to Aruba to get the rest of her bones..
Now wondering if hiss daughter is really sick? or $$$$$
He is a scammer also made a fake movie last night  driving down the street  grabbing John and putting a gun to his head   
 Gabe threatened to kill John with 2 bullets to his head and showed john his gun last night!  on Gabe live   
Its against the law to threaten to kill someone!??

The poor Holloways so sad

Don't beat yourself up too much. You just wanted to find the truth and one piece after another we have collectively ruled out the unscrupulous individuals. Its like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole and one day the right peg will match.
The good part is look how many people came back to SM to find out or help out.
Natalee will never be forgotten and all these good people still come and try to help search for the truth. I think that is a good thing.

 
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« Reply #1478 on: October 04, 2017, 06:37:22 AM »

Hi Monkeys!

So sorry, I know that some are disappointed. But I'm an old bat, and an old newshound. Take this to the bank: if there is an actual live, breaking development in Natalee's case, we won't hear about it on the likes of the Oxygen channel. (These types of outlets can put together some interesting features about true stories, but they just don't do actual NEWS.)

The only thing I'm curious about is why Dave lent his name to this strung-out ratings-grabber. I guess some money changed hands, but I hope there was something else. Maybe it was to help TJ with a new TV enterprise? Possibly TJ has provided a lot of service to the family over the years, with not much $ in return. I have no problem with the WHY, just curious.

And isn't October gorgeous? Enjoy !!!

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« Reply #1479 on: October 04, 2017, 04:11:49 PM »

 I found this interesting post today

https://joransprakdewaarheid.blogspot.nl/2017/09/did-joran-speak-truth.html
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