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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Daily Commentary – Wednesday, May 20, 2015 – Preview of Tonights Dana Pretzer Show with TJ Ward on the Natalee Holloway Case
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2015/05/20/daily-commentary-wednesday-may-20-2015-preview-of-tonights-dana-pretzer-show-with-tj-ward-on-the-natalee-holloway-case/
Don’t miss tonight’s show with International Private Detective, TJ Ward discussing the Natalee Holloway case and the witness that has come forward with new information
Now confirmed that
Robin Holloway
will join TJ Ward and Dana to discuss Natalee tonight on the Dana Pretzer show!
Dave and Robin Holloway
My mistake - ROBIN SAX, not Robin Holloway. I apologize for the error.
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Don't miss the Dana Pretzer Show tonight at 9pm ET!
Click on the link below at 9pm ET to listen to the show live:
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3087951/Natalee-Holloway-s-parents-celebrate-birth-grandchild-Marriott-Aruba-Surf-Club-agrees-dig-property
Wednesday, May 20th 2015 8PM
EXCLUSIVE: Natalee Holloway's parents celebrate birth of grandchild as Marriott Aruba Surf Club agrees to dig up property where new witness says missing teen's body was buried, dad reveals
Baby Rylee, daughter of Natalee's only sibling Matt, was born in December
Matt was 16 when his sister disappeared ten years ago
Natalee's dad Dave Holloway tells Daily Mail Online Aruba authorities must reopen the case to allow search for his daughter
An eyewitness has come forward saying he saw convicted murderer Joran van der Sloot carry Natalee's lifeless body into the Surf Club timeshares
He did not come forward because he was involved in Aruba's drug trade
Natalee Holloway's parents have finally found new joy, 10 years after their beautiful blonde teenage daughter disappeared on a Caribbean island in one of the biggest missing person mysteries of the 21st century.
Dave and Beth Holloway now have a new little girl to shower with love, even as they know Natalee will never be coming home.
Little Rylee Holloway was born two days before Christmas, the daughter of Dave and Beth's only other child, their son Matt, who was 16 when Natalee went missing in Aruba in May 2005.
They have some pictures that I had never seen.
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Quote from: klaasend on May 20, 2015, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: Kermit on May 20, 2015, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: klaasend on May 20, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
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Daily Commentary – Wednesday, May 20, 2015 – Preview of Tonights Dana Pretzer Show with TJ Ward on the Natalee Holloway Case
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2015/05/20/daily-commentary-wednesday-may-20-2015-preview-of-tonights-dana-pretzer-show-with-tj-ward-on-the-natalee-holloway-case/
Don’t miss tonight’s show with International Private Detective, TJ Ward discussing the Natalee Holloway case and the witness that has come forward with new information
Now confirmed that
Robin Holloway
will join TJ Ward and Dana to discuss Natalee tonight on the Dana Pretzer show!
Dave and Robin Holloway
My mistake - ROBIN SAX, not Robin Holloway. I apologize for the error.
No problem, Klaas!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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TJ called me a few minutes ago - as you know he is on with Dana tonight. He tells me that some of the articles we have all been reading are wrong and / or incorrect / embellished or lies. This new witness doesn't want any money nor compensation. He is adamant about it.
TJ and I had quite a laff at van der Sloot calling someone else a liar. Most here already pointed that out. Very funny stuff. TJ did use the F word quite a bit describing that - but that's to be expected.
Anyway - sounds like it will be a very informative webcast / podcast and they always are with Dana. Looking forward to it, like everyone else.
Oh, one other note - they have not been denied the ability to search. I read that somewhere - maybe here, or maybe elsewhere. They haven't even asked yet.
I think I can tell you this and not get any grief - TJ seems to have a new show on the horizon, after all these years and quite frankly he's long overdue. This is something that was on the horizon many times. He is due this opportunity. He has five or six longterm employees that will also be a part of this new program.
Last night he did solve a police case that has been lingering in the Atlanta community - didn't get into all the details - maybe Dana will ask. I'm sure TJ will expand if he is asked.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
TJ called me a few minutes ago - as you know he is on with Dana tonight. He tells me that some of the articles we have all been reading are wrong and / or incorrect / embellished or lies. This new witness doesn't want any money nor compensation. He is adamant about it.
TJ and I had quite a laff at van der Sloot calling someone else a liar. Most here already pointed that out. Very funny stuff. TJ did use the F word quite a bit describing that - but that's to be expected.
Anyway - sounds like it will be a very informative webcast / podcast and they always are with Dana. Looking forward to it, like everyone else.
Oh, one other note - they have not been denied the ability to search. I read that somewhere - maybe here, or maybe elsewhere. They haven't even asked yet.
I think I can tell you this and not get any grief - TJ seems to have a new show on the horizon, after all these years and quite frankly he's long overdue. This is something that was on the horizon many times. He is due this opportunity. He has five or six longterm employees that will also be a part of this new program.
Last night he did solve a police case that has been lingering in the Atlanta community - didn't get into all the details - maybe Dana will ask. I'm sure TJ will expand if he is asked.
Hey Rob, Good to see you!
You know what they say, when you are afraid of the facts and the truth, destroy the individual's character, i.e. Enemy of the State with Will Smith.
Aruba authorities never investigated when they did have leads, now they are quick to sound just like Joran and his mouthpiece attorney.
Hell, Joran confessed at least twice to the murder and still they made excuses.
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I will try my best.
Dana
Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
TJ called me a few minutes ago - as you know he is on with Dana tonight. He tells me that some of the articles we have all been reading are wrong and / or incorrect / embellished or lies. This new witness doesn't want any money nor compensation. He is adamant about it.
TJ and I had quite a laff at van der Sloot calling someone else a liar. Most here already pointed that out. Very funny stuff. TJ did use the F word quite a bit describing that - but that's to be expected.
Anyway - sounds like it will be a very informative webcast / podcast and they always are with Dana. Looking forward to it, like everyone else.
Oh, one other note - they have not been denied the ability to search. I read that somewhere - maybe here, or maybe elsewhere. They haven't even asked yet.
I think I can tell you this and not get any grief - TJ seems to have a new show on the horizon, after all these years and quite frankly he's long overdue. This is something that was on the horizon many times. He is due this opportunity. He has five or six longterm employees that will also be a part of this new program.
Last night he did solve a police case that has been lingering in the Atlanta community - didn't get into all the details - maybe Dana will ask. I'm sure TJ will expand if he is asked.
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Quote from: Red on May 20, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
TJ called me a few minutes ago - as you know he is on with Dana tonight. He tells me that some of the articles we have all been reading are wrong and / or incorrect / embellished or lies. This new witness doesn't want any money nor compensation. He is adamant about it.
TJ and I had quite a laff at van der Sloot calling someone else a liar. Most here already pointed that out. Very funny stuff. TJ did use the F word quite a bit describing that - but that's to be expected.
Anyway - sounds like it will be a very informative webcast / podcast and they always are with Dana. Looking forward to it, like everyone else.
Oh, one other note - they have not been denied the ability to search. I read that somewhere - maybe here, or maybe elsewhere. They haven't even asked yet.
I think I can tell you this and not get any grief - TJ seems to have a new show on the horizon, after all these years and quite frankly he's long overdue. This is something that was on the horizon many times. He is due this opportunity. He has five or six longterm employees that will also be a part of this new program.
Last night he did solve a police case that has been lingering in the Atlanta community - didn't get into all the details - maybe Dana will ask. I'm sure TJ will expand if he is asked.
Hey Rob, Good to see you!
You know what they say, when you are afraid of the facts and the truth, destroy the individual's character, i.e. Enemy of the State with Will Smith.
Aruba authorities never investigated when they did have leads, now they are quick to sound just like Joran and his mouthpiece attorney.
Hell, Joran confessed at least twice to the murder and still they made excuses.
Always a pleasure Red. I see Dana checked in above. He's in the rafters.
As a side note - before we knew each other well - remember when you told me you were worried that I could discern passwords. Man, those were the days.
By the way, you were right.
I think deep down - everyone here, especially you, my brother, knew where this was all going. We just need Natalee. I hope we're close this time. 10 years is a long time to hope and pray for the truth. Forget justice - just settle for truth.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Quote from: Dana on May 20, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
I will try my best.
Dana
Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
TJ called me a few minutes ago - as you know he is on with Dana tonight. He tells me that some of the articles we have all been reading are wrong and / or incorrect / embellished or lies. This new witness doesn't want any money nor compensation. He is adamant about it.
TJ and I had quite a laff at van der Sloot calling someone else a liar. Most here already pointed that out. Very funny stuff. TJ did use the F word quite a bit describing that - but that's to be expected.
Anyway - sounds like it will be a very informative webcast / podcast and they always are with Dana. Looking forward to it, like everyone else.
Oh, one other note - they have not been denied the ability to search. I read that somewhere - maybe here, or maybe elsewhere. They haven't even asked yet.
I think I can tell you this and not get any grief - TJ seems to have a new show on the horizon, after all these years and quite frankly he's long overdue. This is something that was on the horizon many times. He is due this opportunity. He has five or six longterm employees that will also be a part of this new program.
Last night he did solve a police case that has been lingering in the Atlanta community - didn't get into all the details - maybe Dana will ask. I'm sure TJ will expand if he is asked.
You'll do a great job as always Dana. I know we haven't posted together in quite some time but your contributions are never forgotten. So much respect for your dedication to this cause and so many others.
You earned that hairy monkey back.
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Just got the TJ case texted to me - Dana you might want to read this before the interview -
T.J. Ward Investigation Reveals Intentional Cover-Up of Murdered Black Youth by Union City Police Chief
http://justice-ward.newswire.com/press-release/t-j-ward-investigation-reveals-intentional-cover-up-of-murdered
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Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Quote from: Red on May 20, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
TJ called me a few minutes ago - as you know he is on with Dana tonight. He tells me that some of the articles we have all been reading are wrong and / or incorrect / embellished or lies. This new witness doesn't want any money nor compensation. He is adamant about it.
TJ and I had quite a laff at van der Sloot calling someone else a liar. Most here already pointed that out. Very funny stuff. TJ did use the F word quite a bit describing that - but that's to be expected.
Anyway - sounds like it will be a very informative webcast / podcast and they always are with Dana. Looking forward to it, like everyone else.
Oh, one other note - they have not been denied the ability to search. I read that somewhere - maybe here, or maybe elsewhere. They haven't even asked yet.
I think I can tell you this and not get any grief - TJ seems to have a new show on the horizon, after all these years and quite frankly he's long overdue. This is something that was on the horizon many times. He is due this opportunity. He has five or six longterm employees that will also be a part of this new program.
Last night he did solve a police case that has been lingering in the Atlanta community - didn't get into all the details - maybe Dana will ask. I'm sure TJ will expand if he is asked.
Hey Rob, Good to see you!
You know what they say, when you are afraid of the facts and the truth, destroy the individual's character, i.e. Enemy of the State with Will Smith.
Aruba authorities never investigated when they did have leads, now they are quick to sound just like Joran and his mouthpiece attorney.
Hell, Joran confessed at least twice to the murder and still they made excuses.
Always a pleasure Red. I see Dana checked in above. He's in the rafters.
As a side note - before we knew each other well - remember when you told me you were worried that I could discern passwords. Man, those were the days.
By the way, you were right.
I think deep down - everyone here, especially you, my brother, knew where this was all going. We just need Natalee. I hope we're close this time. 10 years is a long time to hope and pray for the truth. Forget justice - just settle for truth.
Amen Brother
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Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Quote from: Red on May 20, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 20, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
TJ called me a few minutes ago - as you know he is on with Dana tonight. He tells me that some of the articles we have all been reading are wrong and / or incorrect / embellished or lies. This new witness doesn't want any money nor compensation. He is adamant about it.
TJ and I had quite a laff at van der Sloot calling someone else a liar. Most here already pointed that out. Very funny stuff. TJ did use the F word quite a bit describing that - but that's to be expected.
Anyway - sounds like it will be a very informative webcast / podcast and they always are with Dana. Looking forward to it, like everyone else.
Oh, one other note - they have not been denied the ability to search. I read that somewhere - maybe here, or maybe elsewhere. They haven't even asked yet.
I think I can tell you this and not get any grief - TJ seems to have a new show on the horizon, after all these years and quite frankly he's long overdue. This is something that was on the horizon many times. He is due this opportunity. He has five or six longterm employees that will also be a part of this new program.
Last night he did solve a police case that has been lingering in the Atlanta community - didn't get into all the details - maybe Dana will ask. I'm sure TJ will expand if he is asked.
Hey Rob, Good to see you!
You know what they say, when you are afraid of the facts and the truth, destroy the individual's character, i.e. Enemy of the State with Will Smith.
Aruba authorities never investigated when they did have leads, now they are quick to sound just like Joran and his mouthpiece attorney.
Hell, Joran confessed at least twice to the murder and still they made excuses.
Always a pleasure Red. I see Dana checked in above. He's in the rafters.
As a side note - before we knew each other well - remember when you told me you were worried that I could discern passwords. Man, those were the days.
By the way, you were right.
I think deep down - everyone here, especially you, my brother, knew where this was all going. We just need Natalee. I hope we're close this time. 10 years is a long time to hope and pray for the truth. Forget justice - just settle for truth.
Amen Brother
Just for your information - and anyone else who may be interested - I'm on Intense Debate @ Birther Report as Falcon. Even I got discerned by my haters that found me here after searching for 3 and a half years.
Check me there if that interests you - BR does a great job posting Constitutional Article Section Two - I've learned so much.
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Here we go!
I know you'll be great, Dana!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on May 20, 2015, 08:33:08 PM
Here we go!
I know you'll be great, Dana!
Some kind of delay - but I've got it now.
TJ and Dana are very clear.
I hope TJ talks about the death threats.
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The LVA (Layered Voice Analysis) Technology
http://www.nemesysco.com/technology-lvavoiceanalysis.html
LVA is Nemesysco's core technology adapted to meet the needs of various security-related activities, such as formal police investigations, security clearances, secured area access control, intelligence source questioning, and hostage negotiation.
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LVA technology enables a better understanding of your subject’s mental state and emotional makeup at a given moment by detecting the emotional content of his or her speech when responding to questions. The technology identifies various types of stress levels, cognitive processes, and emotional reactions that are reflected in the properties of his or her voice. This information provides insights into the way he or she thinks, what troubles him, what excites him, what portions of his speech he is uncertain about, what questions require more of his attention, and what areas appear to be sensitive issues for the speaker.
In addition, the technology enables the user to explore several levels of conscious and unconscious emotional activities (thoughts and feelings), and by doing so, expose additional layers of information that would otherwise be unavailable. This information can save crucial time during truth-detection investigation activities.
Layered Voice Analysis is not a "Voice Stress" analysis technology, nor does it use any previously known method for detecting voice stress. As such, LVA does not perform "micro-tremors" analysis in the voice.
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LVA and Lie Detection
Professionals in the field of lie detection know that there is no "true" lie detector, as lying is not a unified set of feelings that can be measured. Lying is a result of a deep logical process that is executed with a particular intention. One might lie to protect oneself from harm, while another might lie to gain profit, or even just to make a joke. Due to this variety in motivation and intention, there is no fixed set of characteristics (physiological or psychological) that differentiate lies from truth. However, LVA is capable of detecting the intention behind the lie, and by doing so can lead you to identifying and revealing the lie itself.
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Okay, was having trouble tuning in on my iPad, but first thing I heard TJ saying something about "talking with Julie Renfro this morning" - I'm already about done.
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Nemesysco’s technology
http://www.nemesysco.com/technology.html
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Nemesysco’s technology was originally invented in 1997 by Amir Liberman, and is being developed ever since in consultation with experts from different relevant fields (psychology, criminology, phonetics, psychiatry, mathematics and others).
The technology is based on a proprietary set of vocal parameters found through research to correlate with key human emotions, and in various combinations to be able to identify deceptive intentions in “real life” scenarios. These vocal parameters were identified from a bank of audio files taken in different languages and a numerous settings, including police interrogations, call centers and controlled experiments.
Many of the parameters Nemesysco’s technology uses are new to the world of phonetics, and focus on the uncontrolled and yet phonetically unexplained properties of the human voice.
Layered Voice Analysis (LVA)
LVA is a security-level technology designed to serve professional investigators in their line of work, by providing indications that further directs the investigation procedure to the relevant path. LVA analyses can be performed in real-time (using a microphone or on a telephone conversation) as well as off-line on previously recorded material.
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I do find it interesting that TJ has changed his thought process over the years. He was totally stuck on the 'Jaguar the Colombian informant' for years.
I've questioned this for years - to his face. I just didn't believe it. But I would never believe any Colombian.
This was the former FBI informant that was given to TJ after the FBI left the island when they were shut out.
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Quote from: wreck on May 20, 2015, 08:43:37 PM
Okay, was having trouble tuning in on my iPad, but first thing I heard TJ saying something about "talking with Julie Renfro this morning" - I'm already about done.
Here is a match made in Hell
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Quote from: wreck on May 20, 2015, 08:43:37 PM
Okay, was having trouble tuning in on my iPad, but first thing I heard TJ saying something about "talking with Julie Renfro this morning" - I'm already about done.
I know, wreck. I'd just had supper and thought I might lose it.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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