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« Reply #940 on: August 18, 2017, 06:23:35 AM »

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #941 on: August 18, 2017, 06:49:40 AM »

Hi again - just remembering how much time we all spent here, and some of the characters (Monkeys and random others). Remember the banana boat? bus? Christmas tree? many exertions on the murder & crime thread. (At this point I should say that I experienced several monumental family and health problems and simply lacked time or energy for other pursuits.)

Texas Mom, and OMG Klaas - you are amazing. Your personal memory, and what you've got tucked away in some computer place, is brilliant.

I don't expect anything from this latest version of the Natalee story. Just another attempt to make a buck off a tragedy.


msmarple, I've been amazed over the years, how often I'd go to a page in the murder & crime thread and have others there as well reading from the bleachers.  Even in the quietest times, when there wasn't anything case related in the news! 

It could probably still be a full time job for someone, with a strong stomach.   

Thank you for all of your work over there.   

So many great memories here, such a heartbreaking tragedy, but Natalee brought some really good people together to fight for her.

 

Happy Friday, y'all!   





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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #942 on: August 18, 2017, 08:40:07 AM »

Hi to All ... yes, great memories in the good fight Smile

Really hoping for the families sake, this is for real will help them.

12 years!!!

Look for a post on the FP later today.
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« Reply #943 on: August 18, 2017, 10:02:27 AM »

Natalie Holloway has been found....Here is the POS who helped Joran he wanted money


https://youtu.be/qDzzLlhFMl4

Bridget Guthrie Asher Why don't people understand what undercover is ?? You get what you gotta get no matter how long it takes.. and he went straight to her father and TJ Ward .. they even said this in the interview. And if you are referring to john , well apparently you've not looked into him, he's a low life and after the documentary films people will see.  .

https://www.facebook.com/groups/598727173493235/permalink/1639857889380153/?comment_id=1642500502449225&reply_comment_id=1643383565694252&notif_t=group_comment_reply&notif_id=1503066051380645
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« Reply #944 on: August 18, 2017, 10:44:38 AM »

Dave and TJ on Nightline tonight at 11:35pm.
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« Reply #945 on: August 18, 2017, 12:09:09 PM »

Hi to All ... yes, great memories in the good fight Smile

Really hoping for the families sake, this is for real will help them.

12 years!!!

Look for a post on the FP later today.

Thanks, Red!   

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2017/08/18/has-natalee-holloway-finally-been-found-after-12-years-video/

Has Natalee Holloway Finally Been Found After Missing in Aruba for 12 Years? (VIDEO)

AFTER 12 YEARS, HAS NATALEE HOLLOWAY FINALLY BEEN FOUND?

Dave Holloway, the father of missing and deceased Natalee Holloway, is stating along with private investigator T.J. Ward that they may have finally found her remains.  According to Dave Holloway and TJ Ward, remains have been discovered in the long-unsolved disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba and they have been determined to be human. Now, DNA tests will have to be conducted. The new lead was a product of the individual known as Gabriel.  This new discovery  was the result of an 18-month investigation with Ward, a search that was documented for an Oxygen TV show that debuts Saturday, “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway.” I can only hope for the family’s sake that this is legitimate and will finally bring closure for Beth, Dave and the rest of Natalee’s family. Natalee Holloway went missing on May 30, 2005 in Aruba.

Remember the original post from 2005: This Can’t Be Good For Tourism, Where’s Natalee Holloway.

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #946 on: August 18, 2017, 12:10:12 PM »

Dave and TJ on Nightline tonight at 11:35pm.

Thanks, Rob!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #947 on: August 18, 2017, 12:12:11 PM »

Dave and TJ on Nightline tonight at 11:35pm.

Thanks, Rob!   


Where?
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« Reply #948 on: August 18, 2017, 12:15:15 PM »

Dave and TJ on Nightline tonight at 11:35pm.

Thanks, Rob!   


Where?

Should be on your local ABC channel.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #949 on: August 18, 2017, 04:19:20 PM »

Hey Monkeys! It's so great to see y'all Klass, TM, Rob, Bluemoon, Bearlyhere, Keethefaith, Msmarple, Wreck, Blonde, Susebear, Red!!!! I've got my fingers crossed and my DVR set to record but I'm not getting my hopes up. So many crazy stories twists and turns even 12 years later! I'm glad at the very least this is keeping the case in the news. I read back some and it looks like one of these new stories has to do with cremation. I'm currently watching a show called American Ripper and they were talking about cremation to get rid of a body so they went to an actual human crematorium and were shocked at the remains (bones) that were still there after a proper human cremation. So if that happened there should be small pieces of bone left. But I don't know why you wouldn't just throw that in the ocean. I pray Natalee will be found one day soon. I was happy to see the photo from Matt's wedding. I'll check back in tomorrow night after the first show. Love to y'all!
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« Reply #950 on: August 18, 2017, 04:45:19 PM »

It doesn't take that long to test for DNA. I mean, in order to have this show ready they had to have found the remains awhile ago. I wonder if Dave and TJ are under a gag order to not disclose they have the results. I mean, the details of this show are pretty well leaked, except the DNA. Maybe they know but can't say to keep viewers tuning in. I'm so hopeful that this is real but scared to be hopeful. It's a teeny bit encouraging that the Aruban police aren't involved. But then, why would the remains go to a Dutch lab? Can you find human remains in a country and not turn that info over? Makes sense the arubans might send the remains to the Dutch but not that Dave would trust them.

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« Reply #951 on: August 18, 2017, 05:28:39 PM »

 Do we still have my pictures of the body in the bag my photobucket is still working but I can't post any pictures
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« Reply #952 on: August 18, 2017, 05:53:51 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRCHRelfWU

Natalee Holloway's Dad Reacts To Possibility Of New Lead In Her Investigation
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Natalee Holloway's father reveals why he decided to let cameras follow his investigation for his new crime series "The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway."

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/kPRCHRelfWU" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/v/kPRCHRelfWU</a>
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #953 on: August 18, 2017, 06:07:04 PM »

Hey Monkeys! It's so great to see y'all Klass, TM, Rob, Bluemoon, Bearlyhere, Keethefaith, Msmarple, Wreck, Blonde, Susebear, Red!!!! I've got my fingers crossed and my DVR set to record but I'm not getting my hopes up. So many crazy stories twists and turns even 12 years later! I'm glad at the very least this is keeping the case in the news. I read back some and it looks like one of these new stories has to do with cremation. I'm currently watching a show called American Ripper and they were talking about cremation to get rid of a body so they went to an actual human crematorium and were shocked at the remains (bones) that were still there after a proper human cremation. So if that happened there should be small pieces of bone left. But I don't know why you wouldn't just throw that in the ocean. I pray Natalee will be found one day soon. I was happy to see the photo from Matt's wedding. I'll check back in tomorrow night after the first show. Love to y'all!

Hi spooky112483, good to see you too!   




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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #954 on: August 18, 2017, 06:19:55 PM »

FIRST LOOK
http://www.oxygen.com/the-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway/season-1/new-lead
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« Reply #955 on: August 18, 2017, 06:25:10 PM »

Video at the link:

http://www.oxygen.com/the-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway/season-1/blogs/natalee-holloways-classmate-remembers-the-aruba

NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S CLASSMATE REMEMBERS THE ARUBA TRIP: "WE THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE"
AUGUST 17, 2017 • 3:17 PM ET
"Is she okay? Is she hurting? Is she still alive?"

The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway premieres Saturday, August 19 at 7/6c and 9/8c.

Natalee Holloway vanished on May 30, 2005, while on a high school graduation trip to Aruba. The 18-year-old honor student and dancer had finished high school just days before the trip.

Jessica Caiola, who had just graduated with Natalee in 2005 and was friends with her, was also on the same class trip to Aruba. Jessica sat down with us to talk about her experience in Aruba when Natalee went missing.

In Part 1 (below), Jessica describes Natalee as a kind and smart person. She also recalls seeing Joran van der Sloot, who police investigated but never charged in connection with Natalee's disappearance, at the casino when she was attending.

In Part 2 (below), Jessica goes on to say that she believes Joran van der Sloot is indeed the person who killed Natalee Holloway and that she may have still been alive early on in the investigation.

Jessica also provided two photos from the night Natalee went missing, wearing the same clothing in which she was last seen. Below are two photos with captions directly from Jessica herself.



Jessica: "This is a picture in which Natalee is standing on the left side of the picture and she’s talking to a boy. I’m not able to identify who the boy is because his back is turned. So you just see Natalee talking to a boy on a stage. We are in Aruba at Carlos and Charlie’s and it is our last night.  Natalee is wearing the same outfit that she went missing in. On the stage with her is a bunch of our other classmates.  I was able to identify almost all of them and I blurred their faces for anonymity, I don’t want to upset anyone.  And I don’t know why I took this picture.  I think I took it cause everyone was on the stage and it was hilarious and awesome and everyone was having an amazing time. There’s one of my friends wearing a sombrero, we were having an amazing time and I just remember being like I want to remember this moment, I want to capture this and I want to remember us all together in Aruba before we all go our separate ways. But like I said what I find so interesting about these pictures is never in my life before this moment had I taken a picture of Natalee, she was never in my pictures. So I definitely think that that night there was something - that I wanted to be around her."



Jessica: "The second picture was taken before we got to the club, Carlos and Charlie’s, we are still at our hotel, it is the night Natalee went missing.  She’s still wearing her same blue jean skirt and that green teal shirt. We had just finished taking pictures on the beach with all of our friends and she is sitting right across from me and we’re talking and she’s sitting on one of our other mutual, good friends. She’s sitting on her lap and it’s a beautiful moment of friendship and it just it reminded me that she was my friend, she wasn’t my best friend, she was my friend. We were talking and we were eating dinner - about to eat dinner."

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRqeWDgpqts

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #956 on: August 18, 2017, 06:33:57 PM »

Looks like you can stream the first episode here:

http://www.oxygen.com/the-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway/season-1/new-lead?sky=soc_dg_tw_CrimeTime#

NEW LEAD
 
Season 1 | AIR DATE: Aug 19 7/6c
Natalee Holloway disappeared from Aruba in May 2005.  Her father Dave Holloway, has never stopped looking for her. Dave receives a new lead that could be the key to solving this 12 year old mystery, but he isn’t sure he can trust the source.


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #957 on: August 18, 2017, 06:54:39 PM »

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« Reply #958 on: August 18, 2017, 08:08:39 PM »

Sorry, Blonde, didn't notice it was the same link!   Embarassed

The video clips of Natalee at the beginning making pizza...wow...hadn't seen those.  What a treasure!  an angelic monkey

Dave talks about the fish trap and the fabric that the FBI tested that didn't match Natalee's top, but didn't say anything about the human remains Tim Miller said they found. 

They refer to a national park where John supposedly dug up the remains, Arikok is the only one that I know of on Aruba.  I think it's about 20 percent of the island iirc.  I've often wondered if that's where Robyn Gardner is buried.


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #959 on: August 18, 2017, 08:35:10 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/human-remains-natalee-holloway_us_599744f3e4b0e8cc855dc41b

08/18/2017 05:58 pm ET  | Updated 2 hours ago 
No Human Remains Found In Search For Natalee Holloway: Prosecutor
By David Lohr

Dave Holloway, father of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, said on national television this week that he found human bones in Aruba, where his daughter vanished a dozen years ago, and submitted them for DNA testing.

The announcement came just three days before the Saturday premiere of a new TV series featuring Dave Holloway and private investigator T.J. Ward.

“When we determined these remains were human, I was shocked,” Holloway said Wednesday on the “Today” show.

But Holloway’s claim is questionable. Aruba Public Prosecutor Dorean Kardol told HuffPost on Friday that “no human remains were found” in the area Holloway pointed out.

“During an investigation by police in an area indicated by Mr. Holloway, we found remains, but they were found to be from animals,” Kardol said.
 

Dave Holloway’s new TV show, “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway,” premieres Saturday on the Oxygen network.

He told HuffPost on Wednesday that the remains found in Aruba have been brought to the United States for DNA testing. He declined to identify the lab.

“They are in the testing process,” he said, adding that results may take several weeks. “It’s a reputable lab and that’s all I can tell you at this point.”

Holloway said in a text message Friday, after the prosecutor revealed the apparent discrepancy in his earlier statement, that the prosecutor’s comment is misleading. Ward, his TV show partner, “had the evidence and has a report from the lab,” Holloway said. He referred further questions to the Oxygen Network, which didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Removing human remains from Aruba would be illegal without authorization, according Kardol. If that happened, she said her office will consider criminal charges.

The FBI has been unable to locate records of human remains being brought into the U.S. from Aruba in connection with the Natalee Holloway case, a spokesperson for the bureau said.

If Holloway did find the remains of his daughter and remove them for testing, the evidence would be useless in prosecuting the killer. Tampering with evidence violates the so-called chain of custody designed to ensure physical items are preserved in the state they were found.

“If we wanted to take the case to court, we would be in trouble because we could not use that evidence,” Kardol said.

This article has been updated to include Holloway’s latest comment.
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