Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -

[texasmom]

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/natalee-holloway-body-found-138849

Justice for Natalee!

 

[texasmom]

I have been chatting with Gabriel Madrigal.  he wants me to share the link for his daughters go fund me page you can delete klaasend if you feel this is not appropriate


My name is Gabriel Madrigal.  I've spent the better part of the past five years working undercover to solve a 12 year-old crime. Two years ago, my 24 year-old daughter, Cynthia, developed a vaginal tumor.  When the doctors removed it, the tumor was the size of a walnut.  My whole family prayed it would not return.

Over the past six months, when I was working on the case, traveling back and forth to Aruba multiple times, my daughter's cancer returned with a vengeance -- only she refused to tell me because she feared it would interfere with my work. 

The cancer is malignant and has grown to the size of an orange.  Cynthia can no longer walk without excruciating pain.  She has no insurance, and cannot afford the $50,000 for medical treatment and surgery desperately needed to save her life.

I've been sending all of the money I've been able to earn to my daughter, as she can no longer work.   Her illness has cost me all of my savings, but I have to find a way to save her.   I've turned to the internet for help as a last resort.

I have many friends on Facebook who can attest to who I am, and others I've helped over the years.  It pains me to put up this page, but my daughter's life is now on the line.  If you are able to help my daughter, I would be forever grateful.

-- Gabriel Madrigal

https://www.gofundme.com/gabesway?viewcontent=17vmi3vQ7lGt4fj2EyGtY0H-AZKvN6e2d8n99eEzMXE

Both of his gofundme's have been posted.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14615.msg1614917#msg1614917

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14615.msg1614974#msg1614974

[texasmom]

http://www.aruba.com/forum/f32/natalee-holloway-topic-begins-aug-16-2017-a-68562/

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official statment From the Prosecuter's Office

NO HUMAN SKELETAL REMAINS WERE FOUND DURING INVESTIGATION IN 2017

The Prosecutor’s Office has taken notice of news that was published this week by Mr. Dave Holloway, the father of Natalee Holloway, or that was published in his name. Human skeletal remains would have been possibly found in Aruba, and this discovery would be significant in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

The information coming from Mr. Holloway was investigated earlier this year by the Aruba Police Force, led by the Prosecutor’s Office. During the investigation held by the Police in an area indicated by Mr. Holloway, no human skeletal remains were found.

Mr. Holloway has now apparently published information regarding the results of an investigation completed in Aruba. However, at this moment, there are no new facts or circumstances known to the Prosecutor’s Office and/or to the Aruba Police Force in relation to finds of skeletal remains or human bones that were investigated or would have to be investigated. In case new facts or circumstances surface in the future, they will be seriously investigated.
This applies for every case of a missing person in Aruba.

[Blonde]

JOHN was paid by Joran to move the body and have it cremated but their was DNA left in the spot where she was berried..
 I could be wrong but no bone just dirt with DNA...Touch DNA
They  took it back to the US for testing

[Blonde]

Jurriën de Jong Yes, the whole story is BS, especially the last two remarks of the Aruban Law Enforcement.
The only chance to find the complete remains of Natalee is by looking underground the Spyglass Tower!
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Jurriën de Jong An investigation of just ONE day mind you!

Gabes Way Your an idiot god your going to look so stupid just wait just wait. Aruba is lying big time. There is going to be a big I mean big shocker with solid proof. Man stop with your fairy tales. Like your going to look so stupid at the end and I just don't know why Aruba is denying. It when there is proof solid proof I cannot say but keep digging yourselves deeper then your going to realize how you going to explain your lies. Proof don't lie and everyone that believes this clown 🤡 your going to be like wow how wrong I was. That's all I'm saying watch the documentary it's all there

https://www.facebook.com/groups/598727173493235/permalink/1634249269941015/?comment_id=1644349945597614&notif_t=group_comment_reply&notif_id=1503153314420422

[Blonde]

Who is Jurriën de Jong   https://www.facebook.com/jurrien.dejong.75?fref=gc

[klaasend]

Had some problems getting this video to work but it should be ok now:

smallmovie11copy from Klaasend on Vimeo.

[klaasend]

Who is Jurriën de Jong   https://www.facebook.com/jurrien.dejong.75?fref=gc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083708/My-new-accuser-crackhead-f-liar-says-alleged-killer-Natalee-Holloway-dramatic-claim-seen-body.html

[texasmom]

Who is Jurriën de Jong   https://www.facebook.com/jurrien.dejong.75?fref=gc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083708/My-new-accuser-crackhead-f-liar-says-alleged-killer-Natalee-Holloway-dramatic-claim-seen-body.html

Dave said with the help of the FBI they'd found this story just wasn't true.  I think it was in the first episode, or one of the recent interviews.  I'll have to find it again.

[Blonde]

Who is Jurriën de Jong   https://www.facebook.com/jurrien.dejong.75?fref=gc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083708/My-new-accuser-crackhead-f-liar-says-alleged-killer-Natalee-Holloway-dramatic-claim-seen-body.html

He just inboxed me wants to talk and read his  petition you will understand

[texasmom]

You can watch the first episode at the link

Edit to add, well I watched it twice there last night, but can only view the short sneek peek today. 
Maybe they'd released it earlier than they'd planned and took it back down?

Looks like you can stream the first episode here:

http://www.oxygen.com/the-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway/season-1/new-lead?sky=soc_dg_tw_CrimeTime#

NEW LEAD
 
Season 1 | AIR DATE: Aug 19 7/6c
Natalee Holloway disappeared from Aruba in May 2005.  Her father Dave Holloway, has never stopped looking for her. Dave receives a new lead that could be the key to solving this 12 year old mystery, but he isn’t sure he can trust the source.

[Blonde]

Who is Jurriën de Jong   https://www.facebook.com/jurrien.dejong.75?fref=gc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083708/My-new-accuser-crackhead-f-liar-says-alleged-killer-Natalee-Holloway-dramatic-claim-seen-body.html

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He just inboxed me wants to talk and read his  petition you will understand

https://www.change.org/p/joran-van-der-sloot-keeps-the-marriott-on-the-leash?recruiter=312378229&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

[Blonde]

Joran van der Sloot keeps the Marriott on the leash!

Jurriën de Jong Netherlands

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled" ~ Mark Twain ~ The following information will reveal a big cover-up of more than a decade! For 12 years the world wants Natalee Holloway to be found, so even a vague lead, anonymous tip, or wild speculation was investigated. But an eyewitness who knows excactly where the body of Natalee is hidden, is all of a sudden not taken serious?!  http://uinterview.com/news/natalee-holloway-news-witness-jurrien-de-jong-says-knows-holloway-buried/   In 2013 my request for investigation was denied only because I guessed in the darkness the difference in length between Joran and Natalee wrong by just 4 in/10 cm! This reason for refusal is so ridiculous, and unjust that it confirms that some want to ensure Natalee never is found! My request was turned down again in 2015, this time because the Marriott said construction started in August 2005. That is absolutely untrue, and this photo  https://mediacdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photos/00/10/83/e4/marriott-s-aruba-surf.jpg of June 2005 is solid proof work began previous to that month. So why then was there a stop from the start of June till the end of July 2005, and why would clever businessman Mr. Marriott make such a not so smart decision that meant the loss of lots of his money? The right answer seems too absurd, but is really the only logical reason left: to ensure nobody was on that site present to notice the smell of a decaying body! Dave Holloway, in desperate search for his daughter, did detect this foul smell himself though, but when he wanted to do some further investigation the gate of Marriott remained locked even to him! But what would be the motive of the Marriott to try to cover-up Joran's crime in the first place? You have to know that he confessed of blackmailing people: http://radaronline.com/tag/joran-van-der-sloot/ , and the photo at the top, taken in the Marriott, shows us one of his victims: Jimmy Rock, the son of the head manager, involved in wild sexparties, pornfilming, and God forbid what more! The motive of the Marriott to cover-up Joran's crimes is quite evident now: to protect image, and prevent prosecution! Joran's secrets are so dark that he fears for his life, so he will not reveal anything. We therefore urgently request for an investigation under the Spyglass Tower so Natalee can be found, and her family finally will have closure. Please sign this petition, and may Justice prevail!
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[Blonde]

klaasend  Jurriën de Jong wants to join thought on why he doesn't get accepted?

[texasmom]

I was curious about the prosecutor, didn't recall the name.

https://www.facebook.com/Gouverneur.vanAruba/posts/702687419765433

Gouverneur van Aruba added 3 new photos.
January 17, 2014 ·
Vandaag werd mevrouw Caroline Dorien Kardol door de Gouverneur beëdigd als Officier van Justitie.
Today, Mrs Caroline Dorien Kardol was sworn in by the governor as a prosecutor.

[klaasend]

klaasend  Jurriën de Jong wants to join thought on why he doesn't get accepted?

Not accepting any news members.  I'm not really moderating all that much.

[texasmom]

klaasend  Jurriën de Jong wants to join thought on why he doesn't get accepted?

Dave says his story is not true.  He posts on this fb page, him and Gabes Way have had some words over there.

JMO, but I think Klaas and the other mods have enough to deal with, without unnecessary drama.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/598727173493235

Link to one of the comments in a recent discussion:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/598727173493235/permalink/1634249269941015/?comment_id=1636698003029475&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D

That's all I'm going to say about that.  

[klaasend]

Sorry Blonde - no new members.  Leaving the link to his petition should suffice.

[Keepthefaith]

Had some problems getting this video to work but it should be ok now:

<iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/230271690" width="640" height="480" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
<p><a href="https://vimeo.com/230271690">smallmovie11copy</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user70148400">Klaasend</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

Thanks, Klaas. Post Seahawk celebration, on this Saturday morning. Going to watch over some coffee.

[klaasend]

klaasend  Jurriën de Jong wants to join thought on why he doesn't get accepted?

Dave says his story is not true.  He posts on this fb page, him and Gabes Way have had some words over there.

JMO, but I think Klaas and the other mods have enough to deal with, without unnecessary drama.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/598727173493235

Link to one of the comments in a recent discussion:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/598727173493235/permalink/1634249269941015/?comment_id=1636698003029475&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D

That's all I'm going to say about that.  

TM you are correct.  Plus, I'm not going to revisit here in the forum something that Dave said was not true.  Not now...