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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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September 24, 2017, 06:01:17 PM »
more from Gabe
posted today
Gabriel Madrigal
47 mins ·
#TEAMGABE. Natalee Holloway case Join me tonight at 9 pm eastern time let the truth be known
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/teamgabe?source=feed_text
edit,see my next post
Gabriel Madrigal was live with KeiLani Ury.
6 hrs ·
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1941039686107568/
Gabriel Madrigal was live.
19 hrs ·
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1940797776131759/
i think this one is shortly after he met john
Gabriel Madrigal was live.
September 22 at 6:03pm ·
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1940380796173457/
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https://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing/photos/a.134644599887359.18888.123013127717173/783589868326159/?type=3&permPage=1
Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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i should have watched this one in full, i just thought it was
more on eps#5 Gabe did the pet cem lie, b/c aruba le was
following them around
Gabriel Madrigal was live with KeiLani Ury.
6 hrs ·
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1941039686107568/
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 05, 2017, 10:03:19 PM
ARUBA knows exactly where Natalee Holloway rests. The only way she is brought home to rest, is if it will benefit that trash of an islands image and pocket book...
The Persistence, the trap, and the dishonest Americans.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Quote from: wreck on September 24, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
Ok — did anyone watch the series last night?
I did, but was left feeling the same way as I have about the others. Disgusted. The bones that are being tested were hidden in a baggie at the bottom of a stone wall somewhere. That's what Gabe and John supposedly "recovered" when they went back to Aruba by themselves and turned over to Dolph Richardson. The tests with Beth's mitochondrial DNA didn't show a conclusive match but the forensics guy said he couldn't rule it out either, so they are doing more test from each bone. (I thought they'd previously said the mitochondrial testing would deplete the samples, but maybe I heard wrong.) They should know the next results by October 6. There's a segment at the end with Robin and Dave that confirmed my thought that he didn't do this for money for further searches. Robin's ready for them to stop searching and move on with their lives, so I'm thinking more on the lines that college and sororities are expensive and Natalee has helped them out with that. Dave said Natalee would say he's done enough. TJ looked like he'd dyed his eyebrows and mustache for this one. Good grief. smh
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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does crime on line pay for interviews
GABE on nancy grace sept 5 2017
https://art19.com/shows/crime-stories-with-nancy-grace/episodes/67b04517-7574-4498-8938-05005df90f7c
if the link dosent work click title on here
http://www.crimeonline.com/category/cold-cases/?s=Natalee+Hollway
Gabe again talks esp#6
Gabriel Madrigal was live.
3 hrs ·
https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/1941194616092075/
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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i just dont know
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
Shocking new claims about Natalee Holloway's fate
https://art19.com/shows/crime-stories-with-nancy-grace/episodes/a1bae6fb-65a2-4de7-b310-fb4cee036e99
NG PLAYLIST
https://art19.com/shows/crime-stories-with-nancy-grace/embed?theme=light-blue&playlist_type=playlist&playlist_size=5#
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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i cant let it go, the bone dna thing is bugging me
informative, not sure if much has changed since 2012
Comparison of three methods of DNA extraction from human bones with different degrees of degradation
Int J Legal Med. 2012 Jan; 126(1): 173–178.
Published online 2011 Jun 30. doi: 10.1007/s00414-011-0590-5
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3254873/
PDF
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3254873/pdf/414_2011_Article_590.pdf
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2017, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: Rob on September 20, 2017, 09:14:13 PM
Since I'm logged in - I'll share my thoughts, quickly.
I didn't watch one minute of the docudrama. Why would I?
I knew TJ wanted a TV show for more than a decade. That's totally ok. He should have had one back in 2008 when the economy collapsed. I'm pretty sure I told you all that too. This isn't a secret, either. I helped him with many aspects. I shared that with Klaas at the time - and probably some others too. There weren't too many secrets in this case.
None of that is shocking. Dragging it out for ratings is shocking.
In my humble opinion, this is not Natalee. But that's just my opinion.
I know you helped TJ a lot and you know him better than any of us do. I have not watched any of this docudrama either. I agree, this is not Natalee and I'm somewhat surprised Dave allowed himself to be sucked in.
To your last point about Dave, in the last episode Dave, TJ, and the lady with the cadaver dog are talking and she asks TJ to tell her more about what John had described they did to her remains. At this point I’m screaming at the tv “LET DAVE LEAVE THE ROOM FIRST!!!” But no, TJ just starts saying “Well they bashed in the back of the skull...” and poor Dave has to say “Wait stop let me leave the room I don’t need to keep hearing this.” I was so mad! And I couldn’t believe that after all this time Dave still expressed confidence in Dolphi Richardson. At least up until the last episode where Dolphi proves to Dave again that the do not care to solve this. One more observation, when John and Gabe are digging up the baggie of bones that John says he buried there back in 2010, John’s reaction was like he was seeing it for the first time. He seemed shocked to find anything and shocked that there were actual bones in the bag. If he put it there he should not have reacted that way imo. As I watched it I thought, yeah I bet someone else planted it there and sent John to go dig it up and act like he put it there back in 2010.
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 24, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 05, 2017, 10:03:19 PM
ARUBA knows exactly where Natalee Holloway rests. The only way she is brought home to rest, is if it will benefit that trash of an islands image and pocket book...
The Persistence, the trap, and the dishonest Americans.
Wonder why Dave does not prove this is not what happened?
And goes on these wild goose chases.
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when John found the bag, i stopped the vid and looked at it, and
no way was that bag in that spot since 2010.
JMO
since the guy testing says the bones are human, John knows where the rest of
the remains are, that those bones belong to. that bag looks like it was put there
just day/s ago, b4 John found it
im having a hard time figuring out, where John would get human bones though
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Quote from: Kermit on September 28, 2017, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 24, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 05, 2017, 10:03:19 PM
ARUBA knows exactly where Natalee Holloway rests. The only way she is brought home to rest, is if it will benefit that trash of an islands image and pocket book...
The Persistence, the trap, and the dishonest Americans.
Wonder why Dave does not prove this is not what happened?
And goes on these wild goose chases.
He wants Natalee home but I'm getting a bad feeling that something is up
In the documentary of Peter R de Vries with the hidden camera Joran said he had called his friend with the payphone at the Mariott. his friend (
Daddy or John
) Everybody said its a lie because with that Phone you only could make international calls.
But is possible when he had called John! On his FB John said he has a international phone number Just want the truth
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Quote from: Blonde on September 29, 2017, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: Kermit on September 28, 2017, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 24, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 05, 2017, 10:03:19 PM
ARUBA knows exactly where Natalee Holloway rests. The only way she is brought home to rest, is if it will benefit that trash of an islands image and pocket book...
The Persistence, the trap, and the dishonest Americans.
Wonder why Dave does not prove this is not what happened?
And goes on these wild goose chases.
He wants Natalee home but I'm getting a bad feeling that something is up
I learned today that Aruba did not even require a passport prior to 2007.
So we really don't know for sure if John Ludwick was there in 2005 - 2009. was John the call
In the documentary of Peter R de Vries with the hidden camera Joran said he had called his friend with the payphone at the Mariott. his friend (
Daddy or John
) Everybody said its a lie because with that Phone you only could make international calls.
But is possible when he had called John! On his FB John said he has a international phone number Just want the truth
Blonde,
Many of us Monkey's could spend some time going back over timelines and information, in turn, concocting some bullsh*t story in order to extort and fleece Beth or Dave. Me personally, I will never give any credence to anybody and/or anyone, who is looking for anything other than justice for Natalee Holloway. Kermit hit the nail on the head...I would love to see a "real" investigative documentary that looks at the Persistence, the Americans involved, and ask the questions with hard-driven follow-up questions. Then, and only then, do "I" think we'll be getting anywhere. All the rest is a distraction, for me.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Does this passport say that Joran's passport is from
2004 to 2009?
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 29, 2017, 12:07:40 PM
Quote from: Blonde on September 29, 2017, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: Kermit on September 28, 2017, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 24, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on September 05, 2017, 10:03:19 PM
ARUBA knows exactly where Natalee Holloway rests. The only way she is brought home to rest, is if it will benefit that trash of an islands image and pocket book...
The Persistence, the trap, and the dishonest Americans.
Wonder why Dave does not prove this is not what happened?
And goes on these wild goose chases.
He wants Natalee home but I'm getting a bad feeling that something is up
I learned today that Aruba did not even require a passport prior to 2007.
So we really don't know for sure if John Ludwick was there in 2005 - 2009. was John the call
In the documentary of Peter R de Vries with the hidden camera Joran said he had called his friend with the payphone at the Mariott. his friend (
Daddy or John
) Everybody said its a lie because with that Phone you only could make international calls.
But is possible when he had called John! On his FB John said he has a international phone number Just want the truth
Blonde,
Many of us Monkey's could spend some time going back over timelines and information, in turn, concocting some bullsh*t story in order to extort and fleece Beth or Dave. Me personally, I will never give any credence to anybody and/or anyone, who is looking for anything other than justice for Natalee Holloway. Kermit hit the nail on the head...I would love to see a "real" investigative documentary that looks at the Persistence, the Americans involved, and ask the questions with hard-driven follow-up questions. Then, and only then, do "I" think we'll be getting anywhere. All the rest is a distraction, for me.
That is why the site meter was important which was removed.
We could watch who, what, when.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #869 3/20/2015 -
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Quote from: Kermit on September 29, 2017, 12:31:34 PM
Does this passport say that Joran's passport is from
2004 to 2009?
From the us to Aruba
Do I need a passport to travel to Aruba?
In most cases passports are required. Since June 1, 2009, all travelers from the US must present a Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) compliant document such as a passport or a passport card for re-entry to the United States. More information is available on our Aruba entry requirements and visas page.
https://www.visitaruba.com/category/5/view/all/getFaqList.html
Two of my friends who went looking for Natalee in 2005 did not have passports just drivers licence
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Did Joran speak the truth?
september 29, 2017
Joran van der Sloot has spoken the truth in the documentary of Peter R. de Vries, at least almost the truth. That is a very plausible theory after a thorough analysis of the 2008 documentary by Peter R. de Vries and the documentary 'The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway' of Oxygen (this documentary was also broadcast by RTL in the Netherlands in August and September 2017) and based on new insights and facts. By comparing the two documentaries mentioned, new light is on the case.
In the early morning of May 30, 2005, the Kalpoe brothers Natalee and Joran in Aruba dropped off the road between the Marriott Hotel and Moomba Beach Bar. Joran and Natalee met just the previous evening. Arrived on the beach they walk together in the north direction. That tells Joran's friend in Oxygen's documentary. Natalee suddenly begins to foam from her mouth, perhaps by GHB. Or did Joran kill her, for example because she did not want sex with him? The wine incident at Paul and Witteman indicates at first, but evidence is not there. The murder of Stephanie Flores points to the second possibility. Joran is capable of murder and in the documentary of Peter R. de Vries he shakes tremendously with his left shoulder when he speaks about the moment he says Natalee dies ... Or was it a combination?
https://joransprakdewaarheid.blogspot.nl/2017/09/did-joran-speak-truth.html
Just found this by searching John Ludwick
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All links lead to nowhere
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Quote from: Blonde on September 29, 2017, 05:38:41 PM
Did Joran speak the truth?
september 29, 2017
Joran van der Sloot has spoken the truth in the documentary of Peter R. de Vries, at least almost the truth. That is a very plausible theory after a thorough analysis of the 2008 documentary by Peter R. de Vries and the documentary 'The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway' of Oxygen (this documentary was also broadcast by RTL in the Netherlands in August and September 2017) and based on new insights and facts. By comparing the two documentaries mentioned, new light is on the case.
In the early morning of May 30, 2005, the Kalpoe brothers Natalee and Joran in Aruba dropped off the road between the Marriott Hotel and Moomba Beach Bar. Joran and Natalee met just the previous evening. Arrived on the beach they walk together in the north direction. That tells Joran's friend in Oxygen's documentary. Natalee suddenly begins to foam from her mouth, perhaps by GHB. Or did Joran kill her, for example because she did not want sex with him? The wine incident at Paul and Witteman indicates at first, but evidence is not there. The murder of Stephanie Flores points to the second possibility. Joran is capable of murder and in the documentary of Peter R. de Vries he shakes tremendously with his left shoulder when he speaks about the moment he says Natalee dies ... Or was it a combination?
https://joransprakdewaarheid.blogspot.nl/2017/09/did-joran-speak-truth.html
Just found this by searching John Ludwick
read it 2x, going to have to read 2x more
passports aruba,
a friend use to go every dec., 1999 until 2008,just needed a usa id, drivers license
the dna, hmmm
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/a-reasonable-doubt/480747/
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===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
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=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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