Lively Case Discussion #505 8/03 - 8/04/2006

[SunnyinTX]

Just got thru watching CTV and the CC show with a guest host filling in. What you did not have the nerve to have TACOpina host the show and interview himself and talk about JVDS?

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.

Three guests ... TACO, RENFRO and some other other idiot all with the same pro-Joran story.

Nice diversity.

No wonder your show is a joke.

You are bought and paid for by Aruba and Steve Cohen.

No family of a missing or murdered child should eve go on your show. It is a disgrace.

I would advise all families in the future to never go on your show and provide you with content.

Amen RED!

[Windsor]

thankee San, Mrs Red and HI to 2NJ

[2NJSons_Mom]

San, that comment 'maybe she was still with someone else' can support his 'I left her on the beach' comment, as well.  I don't know, maybe I'm not being open minded...

Hi, Windsor.

It probably could but none of the fishermen ever saw him on the beach that night.  Only he claims there were people there.  I just found that comment strange.

Yeah, maybe it was his version of the 'she'll turn up in a crack house' tale....

Windsor has me thinking again about Anita's 'adults were there'...did we ever figure out where that came from?  Another lie, maybe?

[SunnyinTX]

Klaas -- I can't find my GretaRocks pic -- monkey speed typing!  help!!!!

I'm the old GretaRocks  

Hi Windsor...formerly know as GR....good to see you back with us!

[mrs. red]

San, that comment 'maybe she was still with someone else' can support his 'I left her on the beach' comment, as well.  I don't know, maybe I'm not being open minded...

Hi, Windsor.

It probably could but none of the fishermen ever saw him on the beach that night.  Only he claims there were people there.  I just found that comment strange.

And I don't believe the beach story for more than 2 seconds.... since there were ppl there and the fisherman were there... someone would have seen him.... and as anixous as they are to protect the little murderers.... someone would have come forward, IMO.

the beach story was only made up because of what happened to that lady... and remember the fisherman did see that one!

[San]

Are these people on CTV and Fox completely ignorant of the facts surrounding Natalee’s disappearance, or is something else going on here?  I’m just finding some of this crapola hard to believe!  Especially Greta, because she spent so much time in Aruba and should have known things most of us were only guessing about.

I no longer have any respect for her and never have felt very good about the people on CTV.

The only ones that seem to believe that Joran is guilty is Kimberly Guilfoyle and Hannity & Colms.

[SunnyinTX]

Are these people on CTV and Fox completely ignorant of the facts surrounding Natalee’s disappearance, or is something else going on here?  I’m just finding some of this crapola hard to believe!  Especially Greta, because she spent so much time in Aruba and should have known things most of us were only guessing about.

I no longer have any respect for her and never have felt very good about the people on CTV.

Hi Easy...yes they are ignorant, yes something else is going on...they are being bought and paid for......

[Windsor]

HI Sunny -- I'm always here; it's funny; I work from home and read during "break time!"  

[2NJSons_Mom]

Are these people on CTV and Fox completely ignorant of the facts surrounding Natalee’s disappearance, or is something else going on here?  I’m just finding some of this crapola hard to believe!  Especially Greta, because she spent so much time in Aruba and should have known things most of us were only guessing about.

I no longer have any respect for her and never have felt very good about the people on CTV.

The only ones that seem to believe that Joran is guilty is Kimberly Guilfoyle and Hannity & Colms.

What about Geraldo?

[SunnyinTX]

Did I just read that Klaas has the day off

Is Lala's lurking?

[Windsor]

2NJ - isn't Anita on tape saying that -- about "and adults were there?"  that's my recollection; that has always bothered me

[SunnyinTX]

HI Sunny -- I'm always here; it's funny; I work from home and read during "break time!"  

Well it's good to see you posting....

[SunnyinTX]

Are these people on CTV and Fox completely ignorant of the facts surrounding Natalee’s disappearance, or is something else going on here?  I’m just finding some of this crapola hard to believe!  Especially Greta, because she spent so much time in Aruba and should have known things most of us were only guessing about.

I no longer have any respect for her and never have felt very good about the people on CTV.

The only ones that seem to believe that Joran is guilty is Kimberly Guilfoyle and Hannity & Colms.

It shows there are still some people who can't be bought off.....Greta sold her integrity for an interview...

[Houdini]

Thirdstrike wrote:

You know what?? I've been thinking about this of late...there's got to be something we're missing here! There's no way that the corruption from within the ALE (and other "outside" influences) is being orchestrated by a punk 18 year old kid, and his low-ranking, failure of a judge father. Doesn't add up to me. Even if he was to be pulling "favors", something on this level would pretty much exhaust any and all favors you may have had availabe to you. It has to be deeper then that. If it started and ended with the kid, it'd be very easy to trace...

As usual Brudda, we're on the same page.

But something is "rotten in Denmark"<pun intended> because almost any scenario could have been explained away as an accident.  Someone didn't want NH's body found ----- but why?

What damning evidence would an autopsy have uncovered.  Multiple DNA, ligature marks on wrists and ankles, even on the neck would not prove a crime.  Could have been consentual, and remember Natalee would not have been able to tell "her side".

Religious sacrifice?  Some form of recognizable ritual that left marks on the body?  Something that dictated that the body "not be found".

Something important enough to involve others in the disappearance and subsequent cover up.  Others, higher up than Papa, to be sure.  JMHO

[2NJSons_Mom]

2NJ - isn't Anita on tape saying that -- about "and adults were there?"  that's my recollection; that has always bothered me

Yep, very early on....think it may have been one of the tearful displays - hand wringing and all...been so long.

[Windsor]

another reason why Joran couldn't have left with "with adults" --

I honestly believe he confessed; that look on his face the day the police took him to the beach told it all (IMO); why did Deepak's car have blood in it?

[SunnyinTX]

2NJ - isn't Anita on tape saying that -- about "and adults were there?"  that's my recollection; that has always bothered me

I remember hearing that too....

and she described Natalee's underwear per her offsping!

[Windsor]

I thought Anita said the "adults" comment during a Greta interview

Hi Houdini -- fellow Marylander -- glad the temperature broke? whew; was a hot one

[Houdini]

2NJSons_mom wrote:

What about Geraldo?

Yeah, What about Geraldo?

Someone should get an email to him and remind him that he told Beth he was going to "see this through" with her.

He reported early on about rumors of a pornographic video operation, and then the next thing you know ----- he was stateside.

[Windsor]

hmm; you know what?  I'm going to take Anita's comment back -- I don't believe anything coming from her mouth, either; although the description of Nat's panties was a bit odd ...