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« Reply #400 on: June 19, 2005, 12:33:09 AM »

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okay..here I go again..grasping at probably nothing....

This woman who "looked" like Natalee who was making copies of her passport....maybe she was making copies because they needed Natalee to have a passport to get off the island onto another....hmmmm  wheels are a spinning here.


If I remember correctly, she was a Dutch girl travelling with a band. Parents looked at video tape, it was not NH.
Off the wall I know but Amy Bradley was involved with guy in "a band"!!????


And, the Soul Beach Festival was where NH went B4 C&C's. Long shot.
Veerry interesting! Shocked


And even wilder is that the security guards for the SBF wore all black uniforms.
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« Reply #401 on: June 19, 2005, 12:35:20 AM »

HOW BOUT ANOTHER GROUP PRAYER FOR NATALEE?  11:45 CST



LORD BRING BACK OUR NATALEE SAFE AND SOON!
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« Reply #402 on: June 19, 2005, 12:38:09 AM »

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« Reply #403 on: June 19, 2005, 12:38:14 AM »

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okay..here I go again..grasping at probably nothing....

This woman who "...........the wall I know but Amy Bradley was involved with guy in "a band"!!????


And, the Soul Beach Festival was where NH went B4 C&C's. Long shot.
Veerry interesting! Shocked


And even wilder is that the security guards for the SBF wore all black uniforms.
oH YEAH!  I forgot that part!
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« Reply #404 on: June 19, 2005, 12:39:07 AM »

Sorry this is long but it is a basic document.  

Details Of The Initial Investigation Into The Disappearance Of Natalee Holloway

This is the entire post from the beginning. I thank the people who have contributed in one manner or another to this report who shall remain unnamed at their request.

The trip from Mountain Brook, Alabama to Aruba was not an official "school" trip, but an organized celebration for a group of mostly carefree and deservedly celebratory seniors from Mountain Brook High School, as well as some attendees from other surrounding schools. The last a fact that has gone mostly unreported.

While adults were involved in the organization of the trip, waivers were signed by students, and or parents, as appropriate. While adult chaperons traveled along for general oversight, it was reasonably clear and well established that, excepting for a clear and known emergency, the bold, bright faces of MBHS were, in some ways, almost striking out on their own for their very first time in an island paradise considered at least as safe as the streets of many American towns.  They were celebrating years of hard work and sacrifice paid to earn their way into, in many cases, some of the better colleges of America.

Mountain Brook is home to a class of people some would describe as too well-off and perhaps a bit over-privileged; while still others will tell you it is the heart of an America that works hard for its money, establishes and runs banks and various businesses and fuels the great engine of commerce which funds the American dream.

Sun-tanned and not-rested, much as any bright new life might find itself glowing after a mostly uneventful but fully enjoyable trip, seniors were expected to be in the lobby of the Holiday Inn by 10:30 on Monday morning to assemble for the journey home. One young blond face of a reportedly mostly shy girl named Natalee Holloway never did join the gathering there.

Assuming she had simply stayed the night in another room with other friends, Natalee's roommates gathered up her belongings - luggage, purse, cell phone, and passport, bringing them down to the now crowding lobby in preparation for their flight home.  As the bus began to load, adults began to ask questions of the seniors as to why the missing Natalee might not be there. Her friends stated that she had left Carlos and Charlies with a local boy.
 
It was decided that the students and 6 of the 7 chaperons for the trip would go on to the airport so as to not miss their flight back home. Many of the chaperones were veterans of the trip as it had become almost a ritual having been undertaken without incident for the past five, or so years. The remaining chaperone, who was not my source for this story, kept her belongings, including cell phone, in case she turned up at the hotel.

Had she made a youthful misjudgment, maybe over-slept somewhere? Or, was she perhaps simply too embarrassed for having made a choice many might characterize as unusual for the girl? It's impossible to under-speculate as to what thoughts likely passed through the mind of a presumably worried chaperone sitting alone in a hotel lobby waiting for the return of an increasingly missed young girl.

Local police were first notified of the situation at approximately 11:30 AM, one hour after the seniors scheduled departure from the hotel lobby.  A member of the beach patrol was dispatched to take a report and collect a copy of her passport for identification purposes.

Hotel staff interacted with the chaperone, answering questions and putting forth possible explanations prior to the travel agent for the trip being contacted at approximately 2PM. That is believed to be close to the time of the departing flight, though the exact time of the flight is unconfirmed. The travel agent then contacted Natalee's family.

The parents and several high profile Birmingham business men left Birmingham around 4:30 CST on a private jet owned by one of the men, G. Ruffner Page, Jr., President of McWane Inc. - one of Alabama's s largest private companies.  The private plane is owned by the company.  Natalee's parents placed several calls regarding the troubling developments prior to their departure for Aruba. At approximately 5:00 CST a member of the US DEA contacted the remaining chaperone.  The DEA representative was on Aruba on another matter and the two individuals agreed to meet that evening back at the Holiday Inn.

By now the seniors, save one notable exception were back in Atlanta and several received incoming calls from Aruba from Natalee's cell phone. Unfortunately, what some thought was the re-appearance of their missing friend turned out to be more questions about her disappearance from the chaperone back in Aruba. Attempting to provide as much helpful information as possible the chaperone was informed that the boy with whom Natalee left Carlos and Charlies was somewhat known to them for having had played poker with several of their male classmates during the course of the trip. They identified the local boy only as Joran.

The chaperone later turned up at the casino asking questions about a boy named Joran.  A poker room manager consulted existing lists and reports suggest that it was then that the boy in question was first identified as having a last initial of "V." A casino employee suggested asking questions of other hotel employees and taxi drivers, at least one of whom first identified the boy as being Joran Van der Sloot, son of Anita and Paulus Van der Sloot and an honor roll student at the International School who has been known to frequent the casinos, sometimes in the company of his Father.

I've reported earlier below on what I have been told of Paulus Van der Sloot. If a discovered old profile from the International School is actually that of Anita Van der Sloot, as some suggest, it describes one Anita Van der Sloot - Hugen, a teacher at the school.

The found profile of one Anita Van der Sloot - Hugen lists her credentials and experience along with a favorite quotation of "Life is creation, creation is art" and a life mission "to become a spiritual leader," and also stating "My mission as an educator in this life is to touch students’ hearts and to lead them on the path of discovery and self-expression."

Some have suggested that if this is actually the profile of Ms. Van der Sloot, it contrasts starkly with the known but now disappeared web profile of Joran Van der Sloot. Joran's web profile was known to contain several pictures predominantly involving drinking and gambling in what appear to be clubs or casinos on Aruba. Additionally, some have characterized his taste in music as "mysogynist," though his taste in music seems to differ little from what many of America's youth listen to today.  Joran Van der Sloot is currently being held by Aruban authorities as the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway continues.

The previously mentioned DEA representative arrived at the hotel at approximately 8 PM and conversed with the chaperone which resulted in the local police receiving a call from the chaperone at approximately 9PM for an update on the Natalee Holloway situation. It has been reported to me that at that time no official report had been filed  and suggested that the member of the Aruban beach patrol failed to submit any information on the case. The DEA representative provided the chaperone with contact information and left.

The parents of Natalee Holloway were reported to have arrived at the hotel at approximately 10 PM. Several of the Alabama businessmen and the chaperone proceeded to Carlos and Charlies to see if they might gather additional information. Joran Van der Sloot appears to be a well known figure at the casino and an employee directed the group to a taxi driver said to be very knowledgeable as to comings and goings on the island. It was now approximately midnight.

The taxi driver provided more detailed information about Joran and the group decided to approach the police with the information they had gathered.  After discussing the information with the local police, the group, accompanied by two officers headed to the Van der Sloot home. The officers honked the horn repeatedly every few minutes in front of the house prior to the emergence of Joran's Father at approximately 12:30 am.

Joran was not home and his father told the group that he could be found playing poker at one of the casinos in the Palm Beach area of Aruba.  The group, including the father, headed off to locate the boy.  Upon arriving at the casino, the police, security guards, along with Natalee's parents are said to have "swarmed" onto the floor and at least one report states the police had their weapons drawn.

The young Van der Sloot was not located in the casino. Soon thereafter, Joran Van der Sloot placed a call to his Father's cell phone and informed him that he was at home.

The entire group, including the police, headed back to the Van der Sloot home.  They arrived to find Joran Van der Sloot and Satish Kalpoe, the younger of two brothers recently detained in the matter, leaning casually against what has been reported to be the grey car now impounded in the investigation.

The police set about questioning the two boys. They are said to have claimed at that time that the now missing Natalee Holloway did indeed leave Carlos And Charlies with them and the entire group went to the lighthouse area together prior to dropping Natalee back at her hotel. The boys also made additional claims consistent with other earlier reports

With Natalee's Mother said to have remained in the car, possibly out of the emotion involved in meeting two of the now three boys alleged to have been the last to see her daughter alive, others in the group including the Stepfather were present as the questioning continued for approximately an hour.

Certain aspects of the discussion, some said to have involved Joran Van der Sloot's Father, led to the discussion becoming heated and police officers requested that the group disperse. More than one individual among the group of Americans present at the Joran home that night report a belief that the boys were lying and did indeed do something to harm Natalee Holloway.

Also mostly unreported as of this writing is the great toll this is taking upon many students and adults in Mountain Brook linked in some manner to this quite possibly tragic event. Reports suggest that some, including adults beyond Natalee's immediate family are struggling in ways we can only imagine as observers and need our patience and understanding, perhaps more than our judgments at this time.

In terms of additional minor reports, coversations with a source in Aruba today confirmed a seeming lack in the way of any formal statement from Deepak Kalpoe's attorney, said to be Romero Oomer. We agree that we find this in stark contrast to other attorneys in the case, most all of whom have made some, if not many statements to the press. It is being pointed out only as an observation and is meant to suggest nothing more.

Lastly, sources also confirm that FBI offcials from Birmingham have questioned several, if not all of the students on the trip.

As I stated in my initial introduction to this post - it was never intended to address anything like what might be described as leading to its resolution. However, as there seems to be many clouded and or conflicting statements as to the nature of the trip and developments in the early part of the investigation - it seemed worthy to try and clear up what speculation as could be at this time.

Of great disappointment to me personally is some of the racist, angry statements and accusations being hurled back and forth between two lands struggling with a common dilemma. Individuals within Aruba have done nothing but express extreme concern to me for the best possible resolution of this case. In my opinion, a small island which has functioned as a haven, if not a paradise for many vacationing Americans over the years should not take the full brunt of the confusion, anger and hostility brought about by a confounding situation that could and has occured on more than one occasion in America herself.

It is not out of character as mostly a conservative member of the blogging community for me to say that this is a time for all even remotely involved in this ordeal to view it as a common human pain, and not a state versus state struggle.

I am convinced from my reporting that while there are clearly some issues to be taken exception to as regards this investigation, unfortunately, I believe that most of what we are experiencing in the way of frustration over this case has more to do with what we might only expect from a small island struggling with a large problem - compounded by a significant communications gap mostly fostered by a language barrier and not political or economic intrigue.

Frankly, I did not start out thinking that way - conversations and communications with many over time have changed my mind. I would hope that most, if not all my readers would agree that our best thoughts, feelings and prayers should be supportive of and with Natalee, her family and community just now - and it serves no good purpose to turn our frustrations into unfounded accusations and anger directed at what, by and large, are all just innocent victims of a terrible ordeal.

May God help likely the most innocent and victimized of all - Natalee Holloway.

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« Reply #405 on: June 19, 2005, 12:39:34 AM »

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HOW BOUT ANOTHER GROUP PRAYER FOR NATALEE?  11:45 CST
LORD BRING BACK OUR NATALEE SAFE AND SOON!
Did you know... fortunely exists a thread named "Prayer and Support Thread for Friends and Family of Natalee" here:
 http://scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=20
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« Reply #406 on: June 19, 2005, 12:40:08 AM »

http://album.coolaruba.com/displayimage.php?album=71&pos=129

is everyone on this island a gang-sta? (just an observation-i am Pro-Aruba)

"what set you claiming?"
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« Reply #407 on: June 19, 2005, 12:40:42 AM »

If Diario is in Ven. could the CIA be far behind?
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« Reply #408 on: June 19, 2005, 12:41:22 AM »

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I would think if you had plans to kidnap a women and sell her you sure would not want to be the last one seen with her


unless......you were a stupid, clueless, 17 year old gangsta wannabe patsie misfit.

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« Reply #409 on: June 19, 2005, 12:41:37 AM »

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okay..here I go again..grasping at probably nothing....

This woman who "looked" like Natalee who was making copies of her passport....maybe she was making copies because they needed Natalee to have a passport to get off the island onto another....hmmmm  wheels are a spinning here.


If I remember correctly, she was a Dutch girl travelling with a band. Parents looked at video tape, it was not NH.
Off the wall I know but Amy Bradley was involved with guy in "a band"!!????
>

And, the Soul Beach Festival was where NH went B4 C&C's. Long shot.
Veerry interesting! Shocked


And even wilder is that the security guards for the SBF wore all black uniforms.

What color do you Think SG's wear ....  RED  ??? That is there normal  Dress uniform.
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« Reply #410 on: June 19, 2005, 12:41:49 AM »

http://home.bellsouth.net/s/editorial.dll?eeid=4593604&eetype=article&render=y&enlarged=y

don't know if ya'll can get this...but there is a picture of Natalee on her prom night..very beautiful young lady
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« Reply #411 on: June 19, 2005, 12:42:29 AM »

diario is aruba daily newspaper.  aruba is off the coast ov venezuela and you need a boat or plane but you can drive from venezuela to Colombia.  I have done it.  it sounds like they think venezuela is hot and they want to go direct to colombia.  

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« Reply #412 on: June 19, 2005, 12:42:30 AM »

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HOW BOUT ANOTHER GROUP PRAYER FOR NATALEE?  11:45 CST
LORD BRING BACK OUR NATALEE SAFE AND SOON!
Did you know... fortunely exists a thread named "Prayer and Support Thread for Friends and Family of Natalee" here:
 http://scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=20

i prayed for days uno
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« Reply #413 on: June 19, 2005, 12:42:42 AM »

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Mr. Teal the reporter also they were working with the police.
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« Reply #414 on: June 19, 2005, 12:43:53 AM »

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okay..here I go again..grasping at probably nothing....

This woman who "looked" like Natalee who was making copies of her passport....maybe she was making copies because they needed Natalee to have a passport to get off the island onto another....hmmmm  wheels are a spinning here.


If I remember correctly, she was a Dutch girl travelling with a band. Parents looked at video tape, it was not NH.
Off the wall I know but Amy Bradley was involved with guy in "a band"!!????
>

And, the Soul Beach Festival was where NH went B4 C&C's. Long shot.
Veerry interesting! Shocked


And even wilder is that the security guards for the SBF wore all black uniforms.

What color do you Think SG's wear ....  RED  ??? That is there normal  Dress uniform.
They wer dark like blue?
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« Reply #415 on: June 19, 2005, 12:44:22 AM »

DAN"S ON!
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« Reply #416 on: June 19, 2005, 12:44:28 AM »

http://album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?album=19&pos=44

Taken from album of pics showing Sasha's fifteenth birthday party

Center front is Sasha the birthday girl
Back row:
brother of Sasha (guessing here, but other pics in album lead me to think so)
Joran
Jaime
???????

Maybe I'm just seeing double at this point...but is there a resemblence between Joran and ?????? fellow, one brunette, the other blond, but something similar.  Am wondering...could it be Lorenzo, the supposed-half brother of Joran?

There's another group shot, showing just the boys:
http://album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?album=19&pos=43
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« Reply #417 on: June 19, 2005, 12:46:05 AM »

not in venezuela yet, too hot, still driving around aruba which can't go on forever.  

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« Reply #418 on: June 19, 2005, 12:46:17 AM »

"Little mini- gangsters" Aint that something?
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« Reply #419 on: June 19, 2005, 12:47:10 AM »

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Quote from: "waitingtoknow"
okay..here I go again..grasping at probably nothing....

This woman who "looked" like Natalee who was making copies of her passport....maybe she was making copies because they needed Natalee to have a passport to get off the island onto another....hmmmm  wheels are a spinning here.


If I remember correctly, she was a Dutch girl travelling with a band. Parents looked at video tape, it was not NH.
Off the wall I know but Amy Bradley was involved with guy in "a band"!!????
>

And, the Soul Beach Festival was where NH went B4 C&C's. Long shot.
Veerry interesting! Shocked


And even wilder is that the security guards for the SBF wore all black uniforms.

What color do you Think SG's wear ....  RED  ??? That is there normal  Dress uniform.


Most security guards in Aruba wear black pants and WHITE shirts. The "original" story was that they left NH at the HI and a security guard dressed all in black helped her. So there is significance.
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