RBN # 11 - 6/19/05

[nancy_drew]

Why do you think the "Diario Editor's" story was immediately cut off and not mentioned again?

Because the authorities don't want the kidnappers to know they are on to them. That's the reason for this whole news black out. :shock:

That is TOTAL BS, go read the Black & White article!  This guy is a freak looking to sell papers!  Believe me, there is NO media outlet willing to engage in a "news blackout" !!!   Media and Journalists don't engage in such things...only rarely in war and such where there's International security at stake..and even then it's very, very, rare!

The guy is a freak, he's played games with the family in the past...and he's trying to do it with the public now.

[georgiablues]

:::woondering if we all posted our pics on here, how many would be deemed "shady looking":::

ROFLMAO!!  <<visual of unkempt women, unshaven men in days-old pjs sitting here now after countless hours glued to SM forum>>

[absolut]

I said negotiation, not bought not money. Possible please present us in a fair and balanced light to the american people, Etc. (Not saying that is what fox does. Just what the gov't wanted.)

If that's the case, boy was the govt of Aruba hoodwinked. Fox's coverage has been predominantly negative toward the island, particularly O'Reilly and Geriatric-aldo.

They may have felt if they could be the ones on the news that would be the positive light. Remember the whole PM loves americans and they are his customers etc.

[klaasend]

i saw this on riehl world view



Posted on "The Troubling Puzzle" blog:

I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......

Posted by: samthebam | June 19, 2005 03:35 PM

interesting might explain why dad is being questioned

Me too! I wish Dash were here, she might be able to confirm.

[AnnieMW1]

i saw this on riehl world view



Posted on "The Troubling Puzzle" blog:

I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......

Posted by: samthebam | June 19, 2005 03:35 PM

interesting might explain why dad is being questioned

Presumably, if true, his would have been after the confrontation with the Twitty's...and after Joran drove back to the HI with the parents [not necessarily in same car] to show them where he dropped Nat off

[TTownMike]

Here is a thought...  Croes was questioned one evening then...next morning house raided and arrested.  He originally went the to police station volutarily the night before his arrest.

Perhaps he told the police that he knew some stuff...but that he needed the police to arrest him to ensure his safety.

I'm not sure it's been established that he went to the police station of his own volition. It has been reported both ways -- one way makes it sound like he suddenly decided he might have info and went to the police station, the other makes it sound like they showed up and asked him to come with them to answer some questions . . . which he did, voluntarily.
Oops -- left off the rest of this thought.
So maybe he told them things that they knew to be false, which would be why they arrested him the next morning.

They called him and he went in.  Neaxt day they went and got him!

[Professor]

As for the "car chase" reported by Hubart Teal (Thiel) of DiarioAruba on Fox last night, we have heard nothing so far. For an island that is 6 miles wide and 20 miles long, that is one looooooooooong car chase. In any case, they ought to be about running out of gas by now. Don't you think?

And please, don't try to convince me that they're keeping it under wraps today, so as not to endanger NH. If they were in "hot pursuit" 12 hours ago, there would be a shootout by now, or an arrest, or some other resolution.

[dragonfly]

i saw this on riehl world view



Posted on "The Troubling Puzzle" blog:

I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......

Posted by: samthebam | June 19, 2005 03:35 PM

interesting might explain why dad is being questioned

I thought dad and little brother were in the "homeland" when this took place and only got back the day the boys were actually questioned.  I could be wrong here, but I thought that had been established early on.

[sb]

I posted this two hours agao:

Here's some cold, hard logic about Paulus Van der Sloot.

We know that he has helped his son "lawyer-up." Thus, we know that he isn't telling his son to come clean with what he knows about the disappearance of NH.

That leads to three possibilities:

1. He knows that NH is dead, and he is just trying to help his son beat the rap.

2. He knows his son is innocent. (Not credible. Because then there would be no reason to stonewall, or to give false stories and then to change them.)

3. He believes that NH is still alive, but he doesn't care if she is ever found.

But now I am adding alternative #4.

4. He was involved in a cover-up, or in the disposal of evidence, and so he is not just protecting his son's skin, but his own as well.

Take your pick. But under NONE of these scenarios does he come out as a loving father, driven solely by honorable motives. So, we can put that notion to bed for good.

I want to add a scenario #5 here:

5. He believes Natalee is alive, but has some inkling or understanding of who has her and what they can do... and he knows that Joran is somewhat mixed up mixed up in the mess, so to protect his son, he wants it all kept quiet.

[CaliGirl]

:::woondering if we all posted our pics on here, how many would be deemed "shady looking":::

ROFLMAO!!  <<visual of unkempt women, unshaven men in days-old pjs sitting here now after countless hours glued to SM forum>>

LMAO Georgia!! True true! Don't forget eyes bugging out from reading so much!

[Juvenal]

Fox has no access that is not available to other news outlets. It's simply that they're spending more time on it, though I think it's not as disproportinate as the previous poster thinks it is.

I don't think that the extra attention was "bought," by the government. If they are able to "buy" the attention on Fox, they can certainly buy it on CNN, etc. I don't think Natalee's family is so incredibly wealthy that they can buy as much coverage as Fox is giving to this, either.

I said negotiation, not bought not money. Possible please present us in a fair and balanced light to the american people, Etc. (Not saying that is what fox does. Just what the gov't wanted.)

If the PM and others only go on fox that would be access the others wouldn't have.

Even though we don't find their news to be NEW news. For the majority of the population Fox is all over this and breaking new stuff 2 to 3 times a day. For MSM that is a ton.

Well, an arrangement like that makes more sense, but I can't see how Fox is holding up its end of the deal, if there is such a thing.

Fox is constantly bringing in legal and law enforcement experts to talk about what a disaster the investigation is. If your deal with the Aruban goverment is true at all, look for a complete dearth of government officials on Fox. All the other cable news outlets (Headline News and MSNBC, particularly) are doing the same thing, and reaching the same conclusions about how the investigation is going.

A far more likely explanation is that the Aruban government people are making themsevles available to whomever will give them time.

Only Fox has persisted in bringing them on to say absolutely nothing. CNN has gotten tired of this game and moved on, therefore no Aruban politicos on CNN. No conspiracy, just the way the media works.

[sarah]

i saw this on riehl world view



Posted on "The Troubling Puzzle" blog:

I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......

Posted by: samthebam | June 19, 2005 03:35 PM

interesting might explain why dad is being questioned

Does anyone know if Joran's dad has a job that keeps him out till the wee hours or one that takes him to work in the early hours?  This seems to be an odd coincidence to me.

[dragonfly]

:::woondering if we all posted our pics on here, how many would be deemed "shady looking":::

ROFLMAO!!  <<visual of unkempt women, unshaven men in days-old pjs sitting here now after countless hours glued to SM forum>>

lol.  I don't even remember what color my hair is.  Or even what it looks like with a brush run through it!  

[absolut]

This fox coverage mirrors their coverage of Wilbanks and Hacking.

[nikkibnurse]

Hey, can anyone send me a link, or tell me what the deal is with the "teeth marks"? I missed something somewhere I think....

[CaliGirl]

I posted this two hours agao:

Here's some cold, hard logic about Paulus Van der Sloot.

We know that he has helped his son "lawyer-up." Thus, we know that he isn't telling his son to come clean with what he knows about the disappearance of NH.

That leads to three possibilities:

1. He knows that NH is dead, and he is just trying to help his son beat the rap.

2. He knows his son is innocent. (Not credible. Because then there would be no reason to stonewall, or to give false stories and then to change them.)

3. He believes that NH is still alive, but he doesn't care if she is ever found.

But now I am adding alternative #4.

4. He was involved in a cover-up, or in the disposal of evidence, and so he is not just protecting his son's skin, but his own as well.

Take your pick. But under NONE of these scenarios does he come out as a loving father, driven solely by honorable motives. So, we can put that notion to bed for good.

I want to add a scenario #5 here:

5. He believes Natalee is alive, but has some inkling or understanding of who has her and what they can do... and he knows that Joran is somewhat mixed up mixed up in the mess, so to protect his son, he wants it all kept quiet.

SB I agree with your #5. I think he came home and told his father what happened and the fact that Joran wasn't sent away by his father (I mean his father had more than ample time to send him to another country and really stall the investigation) makes me believe Jorans had part but there was someone bigger in the picture.

[LilOrphan]

Does anyone know if Joran's dad has a job that keeps him out till the wee hours or one that takes him to work in the early hours?  This seems to be an odd coincidence to me.

I wonder about this, because VdS Sr. seems too savvy to head out to the local MikeyDees in the middle of a crime coverup.  ????

[Another K in Texas]

If the casinos were open, he just could have been stopping for coffee and food on the way home.  

Do they open on Sunday?

[CaliGirl]

Hey, can anyone send me a link, or tell me what the deal is with the "teeth marks"? I missed something somewhere I think....

http://www.riehlworldview.com/

[TTownMike]

Nancy

Croes is Deepaks friend.. looks shady. Ax boy is really looking shady. The picture they had pictures with before  their sites had pictures mysteriously removed were shady. "Female friend" on FOX late last nite being interviewed..shady looking and that's the nicest thing I can say about her. She looked like a poster-child for herion use.

I did have a chance to look through over 450 plus pictures of Joran and his group of friends. Didn't really see anyone that didn't look like an "all american kid" at all.

Just an observation. I just think people need to look at all involved not just keep putting Joran under fire.

Scuse me Mayam!  I jes don lack de looka dat guy!