RBN # 11 - 6/19/05

[Amy]

I'm so sick of this whole situation I could vomit. It's too freakin ridiculous and upsetting. I can't even read blogs or watch the news or posts anymore or anything... it's so frustrating and needlessly so.

I was watching on Fox this afternoon and the anchor (not sure which one it was) was interviewing someone who I guess was a detective or cop or something from here in the states and they were literally laughing at the way the situation is handled down there right now and how the FBI  isn't allowed to do their part.

Complete b.s.  I feel sooo incredibly bad for Beth Twitty.

I still think torture interrogation would be my method of discussion. LOL

[littletxlady]

Imperative...

I've been following this story and through the peoples last names I've been able to piece together a series of events...

Catrina please do not delete from here people need to see this..

As the heading of this post says 'rumors' of breaking news...

here is what I beleive to have happened...

you better sit down if you have weak legs, cause this one's gonna knock you down...(everythings hitting the fan now)
people of aruba take cover

these kids the 3 joran, surinamese brothers that are in jail
are in "protective custody" they are being moved to the prison
I believe that they have threats on their life if they talk

they got in some trouble with drug dealers..
they 'owed' them they couldn't pay it back they said
'you gotta give us 'somethin' "

if you don't we'll kill one of you

I think it's one of the surnimese brothers
Joran is protecting his 'friend'
the guy that got decapitated is a 'message' sent

the drive by at the hotel.
not sure
but related I think
I need more help to piece the last part together
for a location

Is/was there anybody named 'king' last name whatever
related to this case?????
 
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=22

We're reading the same book, just not sure of the page. But I would "bet the farm" on the Diario's info.

[arrabba]

I believe that innocent people have very good reasons to "lawyer up".  The two security guards who were questioned needed lawyers to make legal notions on their behalf.  Court proceedings are bewildering, a lawyer can break things down for you and advise you.

[littletxlady]

We're reading the same book, just not sure if  we are on the same page. But I would "bet the farm" on the Diario's info.

[maggie fff]

I posted this already on Riehlworld.


McDonald's closes here at 1am.

The casinos here are open 24/7 and I know that Excelsior is for sure (used to work there a few years back. )

How many McDonald's are on Aruba and where are they located?  Could someone have used their dumpsters?

Thanks again for all your information, arubagirl.

[sarah]

Someone please answer this, did Natalee's parents go to the Sloots home at 6:30 on Monday morning but were told that Joran could be found in the casino.

[TTownMike]

I know, even following most of the links from Joran's site you just get fun loving, partying, kids who seem to have a zest for living.  But none of them look dangerous at all.


Before someone says this is racial--his friends are widely diverse.  Few looked Dutch.

When you go to the brother's site there are a couple of rough looking characters.

Round where I come from we call that "zest" alkeehol!    Just saying!

[Lucy]

Naresh Kalpoe from Surinam Airlines, not related to Kalpor bros. as reported yesterday in Scaredmonkeys.

[chloe2]

Hey Arubagirl! You back from donkey duty already?
Do you have any news/clarifications about all the strangeness we heard last night - the decapitated guy, the drive by shooting, the missing man?

Any local news you can share?

Thanks

[deepthroat2]

Find out of Father VDS knew the decapitated guy or the brothers and you will have solved the mystery

[HannieC]

ChytownEd,

According to a woman on webleuths, the Max Arends they are talking about is indeed another by the name of 'Maxito Arendsz". And is 'Max Arends' her little brother who is a classmate of Joran but he has nothing to do with it !

[clevfan1234]

It is quite possible that Fox is going after the demographic's here, think about it, CNN is a southern company (Atlanta), and by Fox giving so much coverage to this story, I am sure they are gaining viewers (me for one), especially in the South.

[Getagrip]

You got it.  The Roel I am corresponding with is indeed named Roel Gomez.  The Roel on Steves website is RoelJamil and I cant get at his picture or Zorpia site.  I did goofle him and he is ems too.  no picture.  Is the tickle Roel the same as the Zorpia Roel friend of Steve Croes, the one who is not under arrest?  Did you look at the site link i sent?

Iquitos,

the Roel pictured on Zorpia is the same Roel on the Tickle site I linked. Same exact picture of him features in both pages. Jamil is likely his middle name.

[TTownMike]

After Dan posted the EMT/Amazon theory yeterday I warned him the EMT Steve is a different guy. Emanonsc Steve's Zorpia website has a very different picture.   One of his friends from the site, Roel, also posted that he is not the guy under arrest but one of the Red Cross people involved in the search.  Dan chose to ignore these and other posters on his site who agreed they are not the same guy.  Here is this Steve's website.  Look at the picture and post your opinion.   I have asked Roel to post here too.  We are in touch.  

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:SCchOeSdilUJ:216.55.182.166/emanonsc+%22Steve+Croes%22&hl=en

Not the same!  There are 2 pics of the detainee avaiable round here sommers!

[CaliGirl]

I'm so sick of this whole situation I could vomit. It's too freakin ridiculous and upsetting. I can't even read blogs or watch the news or posts anymore or anything... it's so frustrating and needlessly so.

I was watching on Fox this afternoon and the anchor (not sure which one it was) was interviewing someone who I guess was a detective or cop or something from here in the states and they were literally laughing at the way the situation is handled down there right now and how the FBI  isn't allowed to do their part.

Complete b.s.  I feel sooo incredibly bad for Beth Twitty.

I still think torture interrogation would be my method of discussion. LOL

To clarify, the FBI spokesperson has made several statements that they are observing, not because Aruba won't let them help but because Aruba asked them to come there and help them. The FBI has helped. They were on the scene helping with the evidence collection because Aruba does not have experience in collecting evidence.

[arubagirl]

There is one McDonald's in the Renaissance Mall (sp?), it is walking distance from Carlos & Charlie's.
The other McDonald's is in the high rise hotel area. You'd have to walk towards the Hyatt, cross the street there and walk till the end of the next street. It's a bit far to walk from Holiday Inn, but it's very possible.
I'm not sure if there is a McDonald's in San Nicolaas or not.

[Amy]

To Nancy Drew: Lawyering up is not a sign of guilt, but we have every reason to believe that JVDS is stonewalling, at this point. After all, this is day 18 and still no Natalee. I understant that there is no such thing as a plea bargain under the Dutch system of justice, but there is such a thing as showing a "good faith" effort to aid the investigation. If Natalee were alive, or if there was any possibility of finding her alive, then this stonewalling would be beneath contempt.

Shoot, I'd lawyer up if I was one of those security guards... here in the states we call that defamation of character, slander, and unlawful arrest... civil suits rock!  

[Michael22]

i saw this on riehl world view



Posted on "The Troubling Puzzle" blog:

I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......

Posted by: samthebam | June 19, 2005 03:35 PM

interesting might explain why dad is being questioned

Does anyone know if Joran's dad has a job that keeps him out till the wee hours or one that takes him to work in the early hours?  This seems to be an odd coincidence to me.

if he works in the 'judicial system'
then it's their hours (day I would imagine)

[Kkial]

Even though we don't find their news to be NEW news. For the majority of the population Fox is all over this and breaking new stuff 2 to 3 times a day. For MSM that is a ton.

Agreed--the amount of coverage FOX is giving this is, for MSM, a ton!  That's what makes me wonder about it.  The people who run these networks have a bottom line and they seldom miss coming out in the black.  They cover stories like this for a reason--to make a profit.  That's why they are so competetive and always together at really big stories.  I am not insinuating that someone bought air time with dollars.  I'm talking about negotiations -- one hand washes the other.  Do us this favor now, and we'll owe you one.  I'm wondering why such a big favor of all this airtime was given in this case.  Someone important is involved, no doubt.  We may never know who.

If you watch Fox News,,,they always spend lots of time on stories that the public is interested in..that is why their ratings are so high..they will stay on a story. Also, at night after Greta,,they have reruns....FYI

[absolut]

I posted this already on Riehlworld.


McDonald's closes here at 1am.

The casinos here are open 24/7 and I know that Excelsior is for sure (used to work there a few years back. )

How many McDonald's are on Aruba and where are they located?  Could someone have used their dumpsters?

Thanks again for all your information, arubagirl.

2 Mcdonalds on Aruba.