RBN # 11 - 6/19/05

[klaasend]

forgive me what is the significance of McDonalds?

It was reported that some of the MBHS students had said they saw PVS at McDonalds at 3:00am the morning Natalee disappeared.  However, according to Arubagirl, McDonalds closes at 1:00pm.

[arubagirl]

As Beth Twitty was overheard mentioning Steve's name to Fox, if I were the investigators would be a bit weary to give her too much information. I do think that she has the right to know EVERYTHING, but if she is divulging info to MSM, I don't think that's such a good idea.

And let the onslaught of "give the woman a beak" and "if it wasn't for the media no one would care" begin.

[cancon]

in fact if there were any truth to that guy's lead, opening up your mouth could lead to someone getting killed, as in Natalee, because the crooks figure there is too much heat

[sb]

As for the "car chase" reported by Hubart Teal (Thiel) of DiarioAruba on Fox last night, we have heard nothing so far. For an island that is 6 miles wide and 20 miles long, that is one looooooooooong car chase. In any case, they ought to be about running out of gas by now. Don't you think?

And please, don't try to convince me that they're keeping it under wraps today, so as not to endanger NH. If they were in "hot pursuit" 12 hours ago, there would be a shootout by now, or an arrest, or some other resolution.

When we hear the word "chase", we think of white Broncos and "Cops". I think this Hispanic man probably meant to say somethink like "we are trying to track the movements of" and used an inaccurate word.

[luna]

CaliGirl....seems to me that Jug would know if there was SOME evidence....even if he didn't know what, cus they haven't told him.

But to state flatly that there's "no evidence or clues" I think is very telling, coming from someone that close to the investigation.   If there was evidence, I think he would have said "so little", not "none."

[TTownMike]

I totally agree Caligirl - I think way to much empahsis is being put on the van der sloot family and Joran - case in point when Cruese was brought in for the first 12 hrs or so all the media said he was a friend of Joran's - in fact he was the Calpoe brothers friend - and I still have not heard that emphasized at all. These two brothers would have more muscle to have taken care of a body or whatever than Joran alone on the Marriott beach area. And who knows maybe it is none of these 3 - maybe that is why there is no more leads because they know no more. I remember thinking what Greta van Sustern said the other nite about all the shady characters she found in the Holiday Inn casino - and she hoped the police were looking not just in one direction with this case.

 

Leave us not fergit, the 3amigos are in fact the 3amigos.  They do know each other don't they?  Just cause they are fingering each other dont mean they don't all know many same people on this little island.  And too, Urine is a purty big feller, and would not have much trouble with the physicality of toten heavy stuff! KnowwhutImean?

[AnnieMW1]

Someone please answer this, did Natalee's parents go to the Sloots home at 6:30 on Monday morning but were told that Joran could be found in the casino.

They went to the Sloots home at 1a....before the 6:30a call from the other end of the island [ on Joran's cell phone]

[AZLady]

in fact if there were any truth to that guy's lead, opening up your mouth could lead to someone getting killed, as in Natalee, because the crooks figure there is too much heat

So true.  So does that make the Diario guy a nutcase, or what?  Nuts for saying something that isn't true?  or nuts for saying something that is true but could get someone killed?  what a choice

[luna]

AnnieMW1....the 6:30 am call was the morning of Natalee's disappearance, not the next morning.

[cancon]

thanks klaasend

now young uns around here will often hang out in the Parking lots of restaurants and plazas after hours, with their souped up Hondas usually but I can't imagine Paul Van Der Sloot would be, then again what kind of father go gambling and drinking with his underage son

I suspect Dad is player if you know what I mean

old Joran had that line from one of the rapper's song at his website

don't hate the player hate the game

which is just a jive ass way for men to excuse their promiscious and hurtful womanizing behaviour

[concernedtx]

Nancy I haven't heard anything about their parents. Been asking those questions about them for weeks. I do know it to be "different" being they are from Suriname, for parents to have their kids working. Generally the culture I have seen the parents have their children focus on education and make sure they continue it and get a career.

I don't know but I just think the brothers have their hands just as dirty if not more than Joran.

Dad owns a rental car business.

I've been researching the Kalpoe parents for almost a week.  I think it's incredible that the media and everyone else has focused so intensely on Joran's parents, Natalee's parents (which is understandable to a certain degree...but there's been a focus on what her parents do for a living, their decision to allow her to go on this trip, and their general background) and the chaperones...yet, there has been no mention whatsoever of the Kalpoe parents.

We know more about Lorenzo and Steve Croes--who have not been arrested--than we know about the Kalpoe's background.  It is absolutely shocking to me that no one has done a story about these two brothers.  From early on in this mystery, I've always thought they were more guilty than Joran.  Keep in mind that Deepak's attorney is the only one who hasn't claimed his client's innocence.  And now his friends won't even defend his innocence according to the FOX interview last night.

I don't think Joran has known Satish and/or Deepak for very long.  From what I've found, I don't think both of the brothers have been in Aruba for a long period of time.  One may have been there longer than the other.

Satish apparently attended this school in 2002-2003:
http://www.nehalennia.org/examens/uitslagvmbo.html

Because I don't want to slander anyone who might not actually be the parent of Satish and Deepak, I'm not going to post anything related to what I have found about the Kalpoes in Suriname.  However, this might be a good starting point for some US media to begin doing research on Google...

I don't think anyone is going to find information about their parents from Aruba sources.  There is some interesting stuff out there about wealthy Kalpoes who work for a large, well-known corporation that has operations in Suriname.

[cast]

Aruba Today reporter is saying on fox that satish and steve might be let go soon.

Did anyone else hear this?

Yes that is what I heard also.

[hope]

It's my pleasure, Maggie.

Arubagirl- did you smoke out your friends cheating boyfriend

[chloe2]

As Beth Twitty was overheard mentioning Steve's name to Fox, if I were the investigators would be a bit weary to give her too much information. I do think that she has the right to know EVERYTHING, but if she is divulging info to MSM, I don't think that's such a good idea.

And let the onslaught of "give the woman a beak" and "if it wasn't for the media no one would care" begin.

http://www.bwcitypaper.com/

[no x it]

Re: Max Arends vs. Maxito Arendsz. Not buying that it's two different people. Website for Max has links to same circle of friends, seems to be another 50Cent aficionado. Same school...

For what it's worth, I've seen Dutch patronymics like Arends, Barends, Pieters, etc., spelled with the extra z in references to the same individuals in historical documents from New Amsterdam (New York). And Maxito is just a diminutive for Max.

Someone may be trying to protect a friend...and have a little fun at our expense.

On the WS board, one of the aruban posters said there are indeed two people and the one we're interested in has "maxito" as his first name. Incidentally, the former person is claimed to be the poster's brother and is bedeviled by MSM for an interview

[inspector_detector]

As Beth Twitty was overheard mentioning Steve's name to Fox, if I were the investigators would be a bit weary to give her too much information. I do think that she has the right to know EVERYTHING, but if she is divulging info to MSM, I don't think that's such a good idea.

And let the onslaught of "give the woman a beak" and "if it wasn't for the media no one would care" begin.

You're the best! No complaints here!

1. What's the latest on the murdered guy with the Colombian necktie?

2. Who's the missing guy?

3. Any word on Van Rijn?

4. Did you read the interview with the Diario reporter?

[dragonfly]

Someone please answer this, did Natalee's parents go to the Sloots home at 6:30 on Monday morning but were told that Joran could be found in the casino.

They went to the Sloots home at 1a....before the 6:30a call from the other end of the island [ on Joran's cell phone]

Wouldn't that be 1am the following morning.  I thougth that call was made the very morning the MB students were getting ready to leave, long before Nat's mom would have made it to the island.

[TTownMike]

thanks chloe

and one last point to clarify

the father had been granted to access to his son and then it was overturned, I believe,

did the father appeal that decision or do I take it the position of the Arubian authorities as of now is not to let the father see his son Joran

I find that very very interesting, that the prosecution is quite adamant that Paul Van Der Sloot not have access to his son, I think it is about more than just the appearance of "propriety"

Better not let Papa in cuse theres enough in public that all know xcept urine.  Papa dont need to bring him up to speed..Wouldn't have to say much to damage the invest'g!

[inspector_detector]

As for the "car chase" reported by Hubart Teal (Thiel) of DiarioAruba on Fox last night, we have heard nothing so far. For an island that is 6 miles wide and 20 miles long, that is one looooooooooong car chase. In any case, they ought to be about running out of gas by now. Don't you think?

And please, don't try to convince me that they're keeping it under wraps today, so as not to endanger NH. If they were in "hot pursuit" 12 hours ago, there would be a shootout by now, or an arrest, or some other resolution.

When we hear the word "chase", we think of white Broncos and "Cops". I think this Hispanic man probably meant to say somethink like "we are trying to track the movements of" and used an inaccurate word.

I don't think he said "chase" I think he said "followed"

[CancunMole]

i saw this on riehl world view



Posted on "The Troubling Puzzle" blog:

I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.
I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......

Posted by: samthebam | June 19, 2005 03:35 PM

interesting might explain why dad is being questioned

Presumably, if true, his would have been after the confrontation with the Twitty's...and after Joran drove back to the HI with the parents [not necessarily in same car] to show them where he dropped Nat off

And at that point in time, how would anyone from MB know what the father looked like?