RBN # 11 - 6/19/05

[RB]

Luna, coming to a Dutch house at 1am uninvited (whether business or not) is considered rude.  They're lucky he opened the door.

Rude when accompanied by the police because their son was the last person seen with their missing daughter??

I think RB is stating that to be the culture??? Not something they are used to. I don't think he/she is defending anybody.

Well, most Americans aren't used to people coming to their house at 1 AM either.   However, if it's a police matter, that's obviously a different story.  Now for someone in that situation to give misinformation to the police and the family in that situation is, well, sleazy.

It was not a police matter and police did not go to the door. Hence the honking of the horn. The told the party that if any of VDS came out they could speak to him but this was not a police matter because she had not been missing long enough.

Thanks, absolut.

[Another K in Texas]

Home made Porn?  could that be relevant?

[littletxlady]

littletxlady

The police accompanied the Twittys - they were not privy to conversation, or Jug Twitty would not have said in his CNN interview a short while ago that he hadn't "shared" his conversation with Daddy VS with the police.

Regardless, you have to understand if there was a question about Joran Van der Sloot's involvement, Mr Van der Sloot would have expected all of this to come through the "normal" channels.  I'm not defending the VS's, I'm just saying I can see how this could get perceived in the manner it is by Jug Twitty.

RB I completely understand your position. My husband is a German citizen(altho very Americanized..LOL), I have spent time in Holland as well as lived in several European countries. I understand the cultural difference better than you may think.  I have posted this link 5x sure wish someone would read it!

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050618/NEWS01/50618004/1002

[arrabba]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

That looks like someone cut and pasted arubagirl's post on this forum from last night.

[nancy_drew]

littletxlady

The police accompanied the Twittys - they were not privy to conversation, or Jug Twitty would not have said in his CNN interview a short while ago that he hadn't "shared" his conversation with Daddy VS with the police.

Regardless, you have to understand if there was a question about Joran Van der Sloot's involvement, Mr Van der Sloot would have expected all of this to come through the "normal" channels.  I'm not defending the VS's, I'm just saying I can see how this could get perceived in the manner it is by Jug Twitty.

That's not what I heard.  What I heard was that he wouldn't share details of that conversation with the media because it is part of the ongoing investigation.

It'll be on again - but I distinctly heard him say he hadn't shared "that" (and I'm quoting him) conversation with police.

I think he contradicted himself.  When asked about his dealings with Joran's dad he said he couldn't comment because it was part of the investigation.  Then later he said he had never shared the info with the cops.

[CancunMole]

The pool group's story was posted so often because their presence seemed to contradict the boys' story of dropping Nat off near the pool area.

u know they were all too wasted[/quote]

Be careful! Don't get them all pissed off at you!!!! Don't you know, according to Dash/Alana, they were drinking responsibly! Come on, let's all tell the truth.............

[dragonfly]

It was not a police matter and police did not go to the door. Hence the honking of the horn. The told the party that if any of VDS came out they could speak to him but this was not a police matter because she had not been missing long enough.

Where is that information coming from?  I have always had the impression that the police were with the parents during this confrontation.

Comes from all the articles. It was not a police matter.

Do you have the links?

[RB]

littletxlady  I did. I stand by what I posted, because I think it's relevant.

[la_cavalière]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

Here is the entire post:

QUOTE************
According to neighbours of van Rijn's mom, this lady had an affair with v/d Sloot before he was married to his current wife, and the result was Lorenzo van Rijn. Natalee was held at Lorenzo's house (who lives alone), since he has a basement (not many houses here have a basement). Natalee has been moved from house to house belonging to those that are in the plan (don't know what plan that is). They are afraid to kill her what with everybody focusing on the case.

Look, I KNOW. I KNOW. It's sounds to utterly fantastic and ridiculous. Please don't kill me, troll me, flame me. Not for this. I WANT it to be true, that she is still alive.

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

van rijn is either a very popular name in Aruba or this boy sells homemade porn videos over the internet. Do a google search, you'll have to look at the cached pages as the pages are now gone!
UNQUOTE****************

This sounds way too crazy to be true. However, the homemade porn part is interesting... could Geraldo have been RIGHT???

[luna]

iquitos said, "In any case, "Jug" has dropped his southern charm today and showed he is pissed. I attribute it to culture shock. He may not be used to prolonged stays foreign."

And maybe just a little to do with his stepdaughter missing and feared dead??? And 3 weeks of waiting and watching after observing that things Pop VDS told him the first night turned out to have occurred differently???????

[writenow]

\Well of course they aren't going to publish an official retraction for just a small part of the article, they just simply removed it.  [/quote]


AP's pretty diligent (thought they do get things wrong). But they do numerous write-throughs, correcting wrong information. Whether their clients (newspapers, broadcast) choose to pick up on that is another matter.

[klaasend]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

That looks like someone cut and pasted arubagirl's post on this forum from last night.

Yes...those are Arubagirl's exact words, lol.

[absolut]

It was not a police matter and police did not go to the door. Hence the honking of the horn. The told the party that if any of VDS came out they could speak to him but this was not a police matter because she had not been missing long enough.

Where is that information coming from?  I have always had the impression that the police were with the parents during this confrontation.

Comes from all the articles. It was not a police matter.

Do you have the links?

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050618/NEWS01/50618004/1002 States they were escorted to the house and the police honked the horn.

[arrabba]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

That looks like someone cut and pasted arubagirl's post on this forum from last night.

Here is Arubagirl's post:
arubagirl



Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 245

 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject:    

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I know that right now I'm being an information tease, but it's just ridiculous that I'm afraid that I'm going to be howled out of the message board.

Deep sigh

Here goes:

According to neighbours of van Rijn's mom, this lady had an affair with v/d Sloot before he was married to his current wife, and the result was Lorenzo van Rijn. Natalee was held at Lorenzo's house (who lives alone), since he has a basement (not many houses here have a basement). Natalee has been moved from house to house belonging to those that are in the plan (don't know what plan that is). They are afraid to kill her what with everybody focusing on the case.

Look, I KNOW. I KNOW. It's sounds to utterly fantastic and ridiculous. Please don't kill me, troll me, flame me. Not for this. I WANT it to be true, that she is still alive.
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[nancy_drew]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

which one is van rijns?

Lorenzo

I have such a hard time believing this!!  IMO this is Bull.  If that were the case this Lorenzo guy would be in jail!!! They bring people in and hold them for much less.   Plus, the added info that Lorenzo is the child of Joran's dad.  Sure, it's possible...but, highly unlikely.

I think there are folks spinning these yarns for attention.

[TTownMike]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

Interesting!  Can you say which thread?

[bendex]

I am starting to think that the whole case is in serious jeopardy. From a law point of few. As stated in my previous post by dutch law it is forbidden that possible suspects communicate with each other when they are detained .

If so that the suspected detainees communicated with each other in jail then that would serious violation of the suspects rights . Which can be used againt the prosecution. And can lead to a mis trial !

[littletxlady]

littletxlady  I did. I stand by what I posted, because I think it's relevant.

 Good, don't ever compromise your beliefs!

[TTownMike]

Does anyone know what Jug Twitty does for a living, where we works? My reason for asking this is being that they live in a very upscale, influential section of Birmingham I'm sure that through his work or people he knows they would be able to hire a very good lawyer through acquintances or work.

Personally, I would much prefer a lawyer that I knew or that I knew of to represent by best wishes.

manager at a metal company in birmingham i think  i forget the name

McWane Metals I think!

[Another K in Texas]

Exactly,  It was on here last night.


I did read the link to the Mississippi paper article.

According to the trip planner who was with them, the police were with them at the house that night.  

No doubt about it.